QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 8 2019, 05:35 PM)
hm.. i'll play the devil / bad cop here
1. There seems to be some missing costs in your monthly expenses - eg. obvious one being rental (room or entire apartment/house)
Must be realistic to plan cash flow ahead consistently
eg. even if staying with parents please factor in IF U are by yourself - how much will it cost U?
2. When should one start thinking of buying own home?
Any time - to build-up savings, income, etc in preparation to execute

When should one buy is another question +where +how much.
3. Rule of thumb - your housing cost (mortgage+cukai taksiran+cukai tanah+maintenance+etc.) should NOT be more than 30% of your net income (active income +passive income if U choose so).
Reason - the lower the %, the less of a pain it is to own it +more flexibility in investments.
Note - a home is a cost, not an investment. Yes, it's considered an asset but an asset that sucks up cash flow unless U sell it and hope for profit. Investment properties are different animals.
4. Personal opinions on your action plan:
- Place 30k into OCBC 360 (4.1% p.a.) (emergency fund for family, need to be liquid)
Good - never touch this unless emergency.
And NO, your parents unable to pay their personal loan isnt an emergency. Personal loans and the likes are unsecured loans and choy choy if anything happens to debtors of unsecured loans, banks try to go after what's left of debtors' estate. Sorry for being obvious & fatalistic here ya
- Remaining 15k for investment (ASNB ASM1 ASM2, unit trust, ETF StashAway, Stock)
U better have some sort of equity asset sub-allocation plan & execution here.
ie. dont "all-in" into one-hand like 1 ETF or 1 Stock.
- Each month allocate 2k into investment, 1k into saving (FD/OCBC360)
increasing your emergency buffer until?
gotta re-direct the cash into investing after U reach your emergency buffer goals else U'll never win the game playing defence only. Playing good defence is good but offence is needed too to score goals and win.
- 6k-8k per year into EPF (ultimate aim is to have ~600-700k in EPF when I'm around 55 years old, by compounding I hope this is doable...)
EPF, assuming i am self-employed (freelance, no employer EPF right?), i'd treat EPF as my bonds / Fixed income portion of asset allocation & i'd also go for the max tax-relief $4K pa or more (assuming it meets my asset allocation %).
Whether or not it'll hit 600K-700k when 55, can simulate easily with a spreadsheet. Just assume 5%pa or 4%pa returns to be prudent, even though averaging about 5.5%pa
Hope the above helps in clarifying your thoughts/plans a bit without being too much of a bast*rd/hard knock
I'd suggest not lumping up all problems and trying to solve everything in one shot/plan - ie. noticed i didnt bother stating possible solutions about your parents' home loan and stuff?
Plan A first, things that U can control / foresee enough
Then adjust Plan A for parents' stuff and see if can do Plan B - coz U can't control others +others may not want you being nosy/your help.
Thanks a lot for your words. I know everything seems a bit nonsense but yeah...so I'm trying to plan everything down and review them over and over now. Perhaps it is late for me to start planning but I hope I can see clearer picture.
1. I used to pay monthly for my car and PTPTN but cleared them last year, currently no plan to acquire another car yet. Used to rent a room ~500 each month before I move back to stay with them. Other costs I may left out are mostly those happens once a year such as CNY, car maintenance, insurance, road tax, wears, etc etc which I think if to divide into months, would be ~RM150 per month (~1.8k per year). Another cost I left out is EPF which is 6k per year (~RM500 per month). I pay for their expenses too but usually their income still covering fine and my siblings will give them some money from time to time, I mainly pay for the bill and any large amount expenses they might not have cash in hand to pay for.
4. This is new to me because one of my purpose for emergency fund is to help relief their debt if really touch wood, or even funeral related fees, I actually fully paid for my grandpa funeral fees last time because parents unable to take out a cent for it and I might be still shocked from the cost of that. Says if their personal loan default will house get taken back by bank? This is what I afraid of actually. Can you enlighten me on what emergency fund should cover in my case?
I'm quite clueless when it comes to attack/defense, that's why I only keep doing saving/FD ever since I work...
I'm still studying on investment tools and learning how to build my investment portfolio, and I admit some of these things I written I have yet to understand them completely, but I'll take your advice into account when planning investment.
Yeah my mind is kinda haywire now, might need to reorganise my mind and plan in stage.
Hard knock may be what I needed right now for me to stop thinking worst situation and exaggerate issues.
QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Aug 8 2019, 06:27 PM)
afaik, those asbn are damn hard to get for non so i just gave up. but you are welcome to try. its good to have
meanwhile, brush up skill/knowledge which type of investment as you mentioned initially suit your style/appetite
hmm.. some tradition handcraft product which earn them 10k a month. please do check if its due to world event or product itself causing the sales to drop.
i guess they have their own reason/pride not wanting to disclose all. i guess all you can do is save up just in case they needed your help. just make sure they are not late with the payment.
its hard to answer, everyone's view and situation is different. but i would advice never go way over your head.
you need to have buffer if you ever consider buying a house. when market is good, earning 10k, market down, earning 2k.
10k was like 20 years ago, but since 10 years ago it been dropping and still dropping now. The product is now being mass produced using machine in China and Thailand, that's what they explain to me when I asked. However they have no intention to follow them because (1) machinery is expensive, have to import from oversea as well (2) requires workshop to house the machinery + operator which is expensive too (3) supplier here already import from China/Thailand rather than maker here because they have more competitive price.
Really appreciate everyone's sharing, big thanks to you all.