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JIUHWEI
post Aug 21 2014, 03:52 PM

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I say sumbat the holes that will flush your money out first lah.
Get basic insurance like a medical and Personal Accident policies first, and then venture into investing in UT or a property or a business venture because only like that you won't have to empty your savings just because some idiot's actions sent you into the hospital or losing a limb hence losing your ability to work.
This is what we call protecting your future unearned income. Always good to have medical and PA first before going into anything else.
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post Aug 24 2014, 10:09 AM

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I never knew these messages regarding the use of italic and bold!

Thanks for sharing guys!

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post Sep 8 2014, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(kripton888 @ Sep 6 2014, 02:43 AM)
dude i bought it already, its just nice for my room, my viewing distance is about 11ft, i dont move my head during action scene. damn satisfied with this internet tv

my financial goal is 100k savings, i think i can achieve that even after spending this amount.
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That must be a very nice TV that you bought! Congrats man!

That's my short-term goal as well, at 100k in my savings account!
Let's do it together!
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post Sep 8 2014, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 8 2014, 06:08 PM)
how old are u?

sure can archieve rm100k but question how long.

Alwasy remember to put timeline. Else after 20year also goal still rm100k.
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I am 25 biggrin.gif

I am at arnd 15k atm after dumping 31k into first housing loan

You're right!
Okay I set at age 30, I wish to have 100k in my bank account! At most, before my 31st Bday! nod.gif
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post Sep 9 2014, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 8 2014, 06:49 PM)
sure can  icon_rolleyes.gif . I archieve rm100k cash at 30 too.

Alot scarify : no complain no car, no complain no gf, no complain fancy phone, no complain fancy internet, no fancy fine dining, no complain holiday, no complain nice clothes, no complain stay at DBKL flat, no complain take bus and train, no complain no clubbing, no complain no starbuck.

remember dont buy thing you dont need, later you will sell thing that you need.
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That's a lot to sacrifice...
Well I'm servicing a couple condominiums, got car, got gf got fancy phone got fancy internet, no fine dining but quality time with the gf, got some holidays lah, going to south africa next year, no extravagant clothes la but comfortable working attire and a nice pair of jeans to conquer all the casual times, stay with parent (meh..), got car, never liked clubbing, personally think kopi O from kedai kopi is better than starbucks...

I buy a lot of office supplies....T__T
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post Sep 10 2014, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Sep 9 2014, 08:36 PM)
Separate Needs from Wants.. And work from there smile.gif
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Thanks! Atm, my expenses is quite high but still can manage to save around 2k/month.
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post Sep 17 2014, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 16 2014, 09:57 PM)
Settle the car loan with your travel budget.
Insurance can terminate it, then rm150 extra can put in EPF. In case of sick, can always use government's service.
And most of the time, sickness is collect by your self, by having a bad lifestyle.
Phone bill still can do better, mine are only rm10-15 a month.
My name currently only registered 1 car loan.
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Older people nowadays always tell the ladies to have their own income and earning ability.

For the same reasons, why would you terminate your own health insurance?
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post Sep 17 2014, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 17 2014, 01:34 PM)
Why I terminate it? Because a simple word : they are cheating. Case closed.
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I wish you can elaborate more so some of the guys here can help you out.

Because if what you say is true, then we have a massive problem because BNM would be regulating a bunch of companies out there cheating people here and there.
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post Sep 17 2014, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Illusion20 @ Sep 17 2014, 04:23 PM)
hey guys,

i'm not sure whether this is the right place to ask..or to tempat merayu..

i need some advice regarding my debt issue and how to manage it ,all this debt i've accumulated because i was having family problems, since a few years ago. 3 months ago my mother passed away.

as far as i remember, i do not have any late payment, and as for cc, normally i will pay more than minimum everymonth.
easyrhb pl = monthly 1028, normally i will pay 1.1 or 1.2k tenure left 51 month with 35k to clear
maybank cc  = 4.5k limit 5k
citibank cc= 4k limit 12
aeon cc = 4k limit 6k
standard chart cc = 197 p.m balance transfer of 6k, still 32 from 36 months
ptptn = 40k left, last year paid 10k,,which i regret why i didn't save the money. now pay only when i have excess money

now my monthly other payment
car persona = 539 - SI still have 70 months to go
motor = 225 - SI - still have 2 years to go.
rental = 250
unifi  = 169 another one year contract left(claimed from office rm50 another 40 from housemate)
allianz insurance = 179  -
gym = 179 contract one year left

misc like top up, etc.. around rm 200
bike fuel, minimum rm25 for 300km..nowadyas i refill once a week, so like rm100 or so
the rest is for my living expenses.
car is only used for balik kampung.. like 4 full tank(rm75) everytime i balik kampung. i had to because i still have my grandmother in hometown.. and i will go on balik kampung every 2 months starting this month.

so, after i paid all of thees, will have around 600 left for my monthly expenses, not including fuel. if i had to go hometown i had to use cc..

oh ya, i forgot to tell, i'm 27 and single working in private sdn bhd SAP Consulting company. now i only have rm1k left as my savings and i use gym and fasting as to reduce my weight since i'm fat. .
i really need some advice as i dunt really know what to do..and i don't want to go akpk too..
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I'm fat too and I wake up early to go jogging at the park: RM0

I also have my weekly badminton session on Friday nights at Puay Chai SS2: <RM20/month including shuttles

If you want you can join me at Taman Aman (next to Taman Paramount LRT station) every morning at 7:30am
Or
Come join my badminton group at Puay Chai SS2 on Friday nights 9-11pm.
=)

That should save you RM179 gym membership fees.
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post Jan 29 2015, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jan 29 2015, 09:35 AM)
Well, if the "advisor" will advise me not to buy insurance and any of the sure lose money scheme, then I'll listen.
You also already says the insurance will self depreciate, which meaning it is cheating in the first place, people have to keep on add money to get protected while sller will keep on enjoy luxury life.
Now working in ME, company only providing economy class tickets. By not trusting any of the cheating agent or advisors, I'm enjoying business class tickets.
Guess you are agent, right? And trust me, any of the agent that approached me will say they are the best.
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Wouldn't car salesmen all be cheaters then? Because cars are known to depreciate in value very quickly.
Wouldn't building contractors all be cheaters too? Because the physical structure depreciates in value as well.
Wouldn't banks be cheaters as well? Because your savings in your bank account actually depreciate in value.
Is this a life to live? Thinking and believing that you are being cheated everywhere..
Wouldn't your employers be cheating you as well? Your pay is only a third of the expected value that you add into the company..

Personal Insurance is an expensive product. Yes it is, especially the medical insurance.
But which is more affordable for you? The insurance premiums or the deposit required for admission at the hospital counter?
Malaysia has among the world's best medical system (not expertise but management system), if your condition can wait (gov hospitals are not as scary as some play it out to be). But more often than not, we want to know for sure that wherever the ambulance takes us, we won't be left to die at the door, just because we can't fork out the deposit. Even if we can, the nightmare continues after we're well. AKPK and Datuk Michael Chong have whole banks of stories to tell. Who knows whose story we'll be reading next? I sure hope that it won't be from among us here.

You would buy a car insurance for your car, because you spent quite a sum to buy it. Might as well protect it.
But that car only happened because you labored and afforded it. If not for you, the car won't happen at all.
Shouldn't you protect your money making machine (yourself) more than the car? Your maintenance is more expensive as well should the need for an overhaul arises.

Lastly, I am really the best loh tongue.gif

This post has been edited by JIUHWEI: Jan 29 2015, 10:33 AM
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post Jan 30 2015, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jan 29 2015, 11:16 AM)
All the salesperson are cheater, basically.
I don't go private hospital instead going to government hospital. How much I need to fork out money? <10% from what private hospital charges.
Car insurance I always buy lower than market value.
SO, do I need medical card? Indeed I need it in my dream, but not in reality.
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On private hospital vs gov hospital i think everyone will have their personal experience in each establishment. I'll leave it as is because it is clear and people who know will know the difference. It is easy for us to say, but those who have gone through it would have a much clearer picture.

On car insurance... I really have no idea why you would save that kind of money.


Brief example:

On Agreed Value
This is the price that an insurance company will value your car. It is usually higher than market value.
In the case of a claim, that will be the price that insurance company will pay.
Let's say in January I buy a Myvi: RM50k
In December I kena accident total loss. But by December the same Myvi is now worth RM35k.
Company will pay: RM50k.

My car loan settle.

On Market Value
This is the price according to the market value.
In the case of a claim, the company will pay at the most current market value for your car.
Let's say in January I buy a Myvi: RM50k
In December I kena accident total loss. By December my car is worth RM35k.
Company will pay: RM35k.

15k difference I settle myself.

Going Lower than Market Value
This is where you co-insure your own car.
In the case of a claim, the company will only pay its portion of the cost.
Let's say in January I buy a Myvi: RM50k. I insure my car for RM40k (80%)
In December I kena accident total loss. By December my car is worth RM35k.
Company will pay: [RM35k x 80%] = 28k
50k-28k = 22k

You settle yourself.

I can't force you to go with the Agreed Value, but you have to have your car insurance either way. And since you'll be buying, why not buy something meaningful?
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post Mar 9 2015, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jan 30 2015, 11:29 AM)
Basically on first year they will pay 100%. Only second year onward will be lesser and lesser.
And even you renew based on market value, in total lost cases they will still pay 80% from the market value.
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Second year onward, your myvi will not sell at 50k as well...
Renewing based on market value, company will pay the market value at the time of claim, not the sum assured at the time of renewal.


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post Apr 3 2015, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 2 2015, 10:11 PM)
"see food" <hungry> lar  notworthy.gif
if U or yr love ones spend like 90 to 120 days out of MY consecutively, best to buy specific medical insurances that covers such. from the sample run-of-the-mill PRU, AIA, GE, Manulife ones that i saw,
all has that xx days exclusion clause and doesn't cover insured if it happens,
even though insured is back in MY.

Note - this was about 2 to 3 years ago when i was reviewing my "everything" (Wills, trusts, insurances, etc).
Let me go poke RoyStevenUng to see if things have gotten better in the local insurance market - though i wont be holding my breath  sweat.gif
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Just to clarify on the days outside of Malaysia.
The industry standard is 90 days. Reason is because the person would be deemed to be working outside of Malaysia.
The local h&s plans were designed for local use.

Eg 1:
Should a person be hospitalized overseas within the 90-day period, the bill can be claimed, however up to the customary charges in Malaysia.

Eg 2:
Should a person be hospitalized overseas after the 90-day period, the bill cannot be claimed.

Eg 3:
Should the person be out of Malaysia for more than 90 days. The person can come back to Malaysia for treatment and the medical card will still work as if he/she never left Malaysia, provided that the policy is still in-force at the time of claim. (cousin brother came back from NZ to treat a shoulder injury. No issues with claim)

Hope this helps. =)
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post Apr 27 2015, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(chubbybobo @ Apr 27 2015, 12:45 PM)
Hi Sifus,

Here's my condition.

Net Income : RM 3,000
Car Loan: RM 550 until year 2019
Insurance : RM 200
House loan for parent : RM 250
Rental : RM 100
Balance Transfer : a) UOB - RM 300 until October 2015
                          b) OCBC - RM 280 until July 2015
Maxis : RM150
Petrol : RM200
Meal & Entertainment : RM 400
Saving : RM 500

I am planning to have a renovation for my new house, I have only 20k on hand which is not enough. I plan to apply for a personal loan of 15k for a period of 4 years. 2.5k from the personal loan is used to settled the balance transfer. I know the interest for personal loan is high, i want to know if I make an early settlement or pay more every month, will the interest reduce? For my salary & expenses, is it ok to apply for a personal loan?
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Net income 3000 and you have a new house?
I don't think this adds up at all...
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post Apr 27 2015, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(chubbybobo @ Apr 27 2015, 01:55 PM)
The new house is bought by my husband. I no need to pay for the installment.
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That kind of adds to the mystery.
In order for anyone to help you, we would need a joint income/expenses statement from you and your husband.
Otherwise, the only thing everyone here will tell you to do is to sell your house because at 3000 income per month, you just can't afford a house, let alone renovating it.
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post Apr 28 2015, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(chubbybobo @ Apr 27 2015, 06:04 PM)
Here's my husband statement

Net salary 10k
car loan 800
house loan 1600
parent 800
Credit card balance transfer 200 until september 2015
Car maintenance rm 200
petrol rm500
tol rm150
astro 80
meal 500
saving 1000
insurance 300
invest 1000

the main reason i am thinking of personal loan is because i do not want to spend my husband money on renovation since he already pay for home loan. After summarize his expenses,i dont think i need to do so. I think i can take from him without paying the interest to bank.
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Please ignore supersound.

You shouldn't be worried about spending your husband's money vs spending your own money.
You guys are married, you're on the same team. This should be a joint effort in managing your family's finances.
Chinese say "不怕神一样的对手,只怕猪一样的队友” meaning to say "it's alright if our opponent is god, but never have an idiot on your team".

The best advice I can give to you is to
1. talk to your husband about it,
2. pool your resources together,
3. figure out a budget for the renovation with what you can afford to pay.

It's not taboo to take a loan, but consider your options and affordability wisely.

Would refinancing your home be a better way to get the money for renovation?
Or what can the banks offer you?

Taking a loan is like playing with fire.
When we can control it, it can help us create wonderful dishes.
But when we try to be oriental restaurant chefs with flaming woks, God help us all.


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QUOTE(icyd @ Aug 8 2019, 02:25 PM)
that i already have. those will be used to sustain living otherwise going to be used up for clearing loans only. the issue is the huge imbalance of commitments between both of us
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How about this?

Since you pool your money together, why not treat the loan commitments the same way?

You may choose to insure each of you with half the total loan amount.
Should one of you depart prematurely, the other can opt for a refinancing scheme with the deceased insurance payout and reduce the monthly commitments.

Or do what I do, my wife owes nothing and she will own everything at the end of my numbered days.

Best to insure yourself above your total liabilities.
Why?
Bills still need to be paid, kids still need to have activities, fun, learn, still have academic aspirations, etc.
And there's many ways we can do that, not just with insurance of course. You need to have some investments as well.

 

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