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Hapeng
post Apr 10 2014, 06:16 AM

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QUOTE(adolph @ Apr 10 2014, 06:09 AM)
A good article to share , The Millionaire Next Door >

- Millionaires live frugally.
- They drive used cars.
- They buy their (used) car, instead of leasing one.
- They live in “less house” than they can afford, especially while they’re growing their wealth. Most of their neighbors are non-millionaires.
- More than half never received even $1 as an inheritance.
- Almost half never received any money for college tuition from their family.
- Nine out of 10 millionaires never received even $1 worth of ownership in a family business.
- Self-made millionaires have frugal spouses. The authors told one particularly compelling story about a husband who, -- after reviewing his net worth, announced to his wife that they were officially millionaires. The wife nods, then goes back to clipping coupons.
- Millionaires own their own business. Some have full-time jobs plus side businesses, while others are full-time business owners. “Self-employed people make up less than 20 percent of the workers in America but account for two-thirds of the millionaires,” the book says.
- They tend to own “boring,” unglamorous businesses – the type that wouldn’t create interesting cocktail party conversation. The book says: “We are welding contractors, auctioneers, rice farmers, owners of mobile-home parks, pest controllers, coin and stamp dealers, and paving contractors.”
- The one area in which they generously spend money is on their children’s education.
And, of course, my favorite observation:

The majority of self-made millionaires budget and track every penny. They know how much they spend on groceries, gas, and every other household line-item.

The authors say:

“Planning and controlling consumption are key factors underlying wealth accumulation … Operating a household without a budget is akin to operating a business without a plan, without goals, and without direction.”


INFO,
http://budgeting.about.com/od/Why_Budget/a...ake-Budgets.htm
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i can't stress how great this book is guys.
really inspires me to save and keeps me aligned and motivated.
the audiobook is available on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuDhNYUKqX0
Hapeng
post Apr 10 2014, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(adolph @ Apr 10 2014, 10:17 AM)
ya lor >

WOOT, the video so LONG.  blink.gif
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haha worth it! need to take breaks in between of cos
Hapeng
post Apr 25 2014, 12:33 PM

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So guys, time to revive this thread.

25 this year.
Got my emergency fund.
Investments totaling about 150K.
No debts.
Living with parents, will purchase a home only when i find a good deal.
Earning 4k+
Car paid off.
Parents are all set for retirement.

I've been diligently pumping in my money into stocks every 3 months.
Any better ideas on what to do moving forward?

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post Apr 26 2014, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(Malformed @ Apr 26 2014, 12:34 AM)
With 4k+ a month, how did you manage to set a total investment of 150k at the age of 25? In pumping money, do you mean Dollar Cost Averaging at a 3 month basis?
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oh I've been saving, took out a PTPTN loan, paid off with 20% disc etc.
i'll have about 8-10k every 3 months, i'll pick out stocks.

QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 26 2014, 07:48 AM)
Why need to be every 3 months?  Invest stocks then just leave it there for years to grow?
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lol one lump sum = less fees.
if i see stg i reli like then i'll just pump in.
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post Apr 26 2014, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 26 2014, 10:42 AM)
yes less fees but fees commission is only 0.15-0.25% bro. And don't forget the power of compunding.
If you trade $10,000 you let it grow for 5 years with 8%/annum :
If you trade $10,000 every day for 5 years with 0.027%/day :
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lol guys i dont need a lesson on how often to trade and on compounding..
im asking is there anything more i can do, or im missing out on.
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post Apr 26 2014, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 26 2014, 02:04 PM)
Stocks - worldwide selection or MY/SG only?
Funds - worldwide / developed vs emerging? or just MY?

"Tax relief" or tax impact investments such as PRS for your age and tax bracket explored?
Explored usage of EPF A/C1 for mutual funds or direct KLCI stocks and EPF A/C2 for mortgage repayment (thus cash flow into other investments)?

Generally, i think  U are ahead of the curve based on your age unless U happen to be working with investments-related stuff lar. U save well, U have built-up buffers AND U are into equities.
Now - to optimize and to explore the world.
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Only investing in mY so far. Will think about venturing into the US in the near future.
Funds - worldwide.

Yes I've started and contributed the RM3000 for the year, anticipating the bonus RM500 from gov.
Thanks for the advice on usage of EPF, will look into it but I've been working for about 1.5 years only, not much EPF yet.

I have a stable job, looking into other opportunities/biz on the weekends.
My next goal is to try help my family get their finances in order. Budget, investments etc.

Thank u sifu. notworthy.gif
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post Apr 26 2014, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Apr 26 2014, 07:34 PM)
say save 2.5k of 4k (weightage of 0.625 asving),  1 year = 30k + 1 month bonus.. = 33k/ year..

assume he start working, age 22 to 25.  22 (2.2k x 0.625 = 1.375x13 = 17.875k); 23 (2.7k x 0.625 = 1.6875x13 = 21.9375k); 24 (3.2k x 0.625 = 2k x 13 = 26k) ; 25 (4 x .625 = 2.5 x 13 = 32.5k)
22 = 17.875k
23 = 21.9375k
24 = 26k
25 (not year end)= 32.5k

Total = 98.31k 

mention total investment = RM150k by 25..

if based on 98.31k with no compounded interest, due to straight 'pump in' into stocks/investment..

% avg = 52.5% increase...of invested ...

this is highly unlike...if talking about 30%, still acceptable..but 52.5%..abit exaggerate to my standard  whistling.gif
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LOL wth..
started working 22.
assume savings started at age 7.
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post Apr 27 2014, 05:18 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 26 2014, 10:27 PM)
Haha.. Your ang pau money were huge sum..
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haha over the years ma.
btw my parents invested in this Hong Leong gem/precious metal fund.
RM10k back then, they return to us RM8K+ today. Im so f***in pissed
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post Apr 27 2014, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 27 2014, 08:48 AM)
How long is the investment?
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more than 10 years.. speechless
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post Apr 30 2014, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 27 2014, 12:49 PM)
huh.. that is bad!

Is it a close ended fund?
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not too sure

QUOTE(xpole @ Apr 29 2014, 10:24 PM)
What kind of investment you do?
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shares mostly, a little bit in unit trust.
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post Apr 30 2014, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Kinggnik87 @ Apr 30 2014, 11:02 AM)
I think part of the earnings has become their annual management charge. Which after 10 years, will be a huge amount.
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i pay for management but i don't get any management..
bottom line is.. how the hell can they lose money on a 10 year+ investment
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post May 1 2014, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Nine9 @ May 1 2014, 07:46 AM)
u need to see this


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post Jul 18 2014, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(khan1005 @ Jul 18 2014, 10:37 AM)
Saw the mh17 news. I am freaking out as I am working in airline industry.

Wish to retiring tomorrow. Can I do it?

Age 41

Asset
Epf 680k
Fd 700k
Dsl market price now 450k.zero loan
Car 130k market price. Zero loan
Klse Share/Annuity Insurance/PRS 25k

Debt
Zero.

My expenses.
Lifestyle expenses 2k pm. (food, sundry expenses, petrol, utilities etc)
Mother 1k pm.
Medical card 2k per year

Investment. I prefer low risk.

I  eat healty and play badminton games 3 times a week.

I am gay male. No children no gf/bf

What should I improve?

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38K per annum expenses.

For ease of calculation, lets imagine your EPF and FD are lumped as one into RM1.4 million and placed in FD.
With an int rate of 3.5%, you'll get RM49K a year, which more than covers your expenses.
So if you can maintain those expenses at 38K per annum, you're set. Of course, life isnt always hunky dory..

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post Jul 19 2014, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(khan1005 @ Jul 18 2014, 09:14 PM)
I will retire asap.

I still have 1.4mil and the house plus the monthly balance. all this cant take care of 4% inflation?

If the retiring life not ok. I still can return to take up a slightly easy job with lesser pay.

I will never invest in equities. So sorry.

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happy retirement!
you've worked hard and earned it.

yes, take up an easy going job. plant your own vege. haha
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post Jul 21 2014, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(khan1005 @ Jul 19 2014, 09:46 PM)
We are very unfortunate,  born with homosexual. Family member + government + public rejecting us.

We therefore have to help ourselves.  Poor, old and sick very  bad for homosexsual. No children or spouse taking care of us.

Mother and father can't always taking care of us.

Realised that, majority  gay standby or put aside high amount of money.

Invest in property?

Me and some gay friends think the current property price is too expensive. In particular condominium.

Add to this, many condominium stay empty and cannot  lease out.

But if major property bubble and price turn 50% cheaper. We will invest 70% of our cash and lease out the unit for old age.

Thank you very much for the post.
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QUOTE(lonelywalker @ Nov 19 2014, 08:50 PM)
Hello there,

I am just graduated and start my career not long ago, after deducting EPF and Sosco, I still have average of 2.5k income.

Age 25

Currently fix expenses are toll,petrol and food, costing around RM 5~600.

I having PTPTN loan, 28k, considering start paying next year consistently.

For what I planning currently,

1st setting up 6 month cash flow.
2nd Getting monthly RM200 medical insurance.
3rd Saving on FD and also PRS (Don't know whether this is a good choice or not.)

I don't know how is work but currently I am trying to save 1.5k per month and I had make it consequently for 2 month.

Hope to get sifu advice on better financial planning.
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I think your steps are pretty sound.
PRS would be a good choice but i suggest to keep it capped at 3k. Then continue to save up.
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post Apr 27 2015, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(chubbybobo @ Apr 27 2015, 06:04 PM)
Here's my husband statement

Net salary 10k
car loan 800
house loan 1600
parent 800
Credit card balance transfer 200 until september 2015
Car maintenance rm 200
petrol rm500
tol rm150
astro 80
meal 500
saving 1000
insurance 300
invest 1000

the main reason i am thinking of personal loan is because i do not want to spend my husband money on renovation since he already pay for home loan. After summarize his expenses,i dont think i need to do so. I think i can take from him without paying the interest to bank.
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if its not too much trouble, can u post your combined statements.
also break it down into income and expenses then the sifus here will be able to advise you better.

from what I see, you and your husbands savings and investments monthly are ok. try to squeeze in a little more.

also, you and your husband's age will help as well

 

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