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 Personal Financial Management V3, It's all about managing your $$$

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heavenly91
post Jul 24 2016, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Haunter99 @ May 24 2016, 02:11 PM)
Hi, need some info here,

currently i have a car loan, ploan, cc and ptptn. Is there any way i can apply for overlapping loan to settle all?

i've heard about overlapping loan but it seem not much info i can get on internet.

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post Jul 24 2016, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 24 2016, 10:49 PM)
Try to list down what type of loans you have first.
Follow by listing down waste.
Then start reducing waste and settle short term loan follow by long term loan.
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Ptptn
Car loan
Apartment loan

These 3
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post Jul 25 2016, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 24 2016, 10:47 PM)
Well, the fool are back, also, you are that jerk that telling lies, bullshits. Mine are lower than my manager.
Mine only stand at rm20M, did I said mine was rm30M? Want to lie also do some research first.
As said, only fool will call others as fool just to hide his cowardliness, you are that typical fool.
Both you and your manager do NOT have NAV of RM20mil or RM30mil. RM20mil in NAV and yet ure here on Lowyat forum? So who is lying here? rclxms.gif

And no, fools don't call others fools. Are u creating your own facts? biggrin.gif

Only a fool would claim to have a NAV of Rm20mil and say that when he sells everything he only has RM600K. doh.gif

But do educate us why a person with a NAV of RM20mil can't even secure a loan for a double storey house? If u really had a NAV of RM20mil, all banks would be rushing to do business with you right?

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post Jul 25 2016, 06:47 AM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 25 2016, 06:30 AM)
car loan > ptptn loan > flat loan.
no waste?
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Insurance, parents expenses, fuel, food

Well I guess I got not much to waste after all of these expenses
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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 25 2016, 08:10 AM)
Nope, insurance, food(if you choose to eat in franchise), data plan are waste.
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post Jul 25 2016, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 24 2016, 10:13 AM)
Well said, any loan in this world is liability. I still remember my mother boasting on my brother are much more capable than me as he can buy a new car at the age of 25(I still driving an Iswara at that age), I tell that, as long as he is still serving the loan, he own nothing.
Most people will just take their sale price - buy price = money make.
Because of this stupid mentality, some jokers even suggest others to keep on refinance their properties.
Like my manager, his table/paper asset do "worth" very high, but true cash value are quite low. He even bought some trust funds at the price of rm1 which now only worth rm0.1.
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Earlier, you claimed that RM30m is the NAV.
Now you change the phrase to....table/paper asset "worth" very high and true cash value worth very low. The word NAV was deliberately omitted as you're unsure of which is NAV and which is not.
It's very simple, if you say RM30M is the NAV then the "true cash value" ( I'm quoting your lingo) is RM30M.

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 25 2016, 08:16 AM)
If can claim from company than is ok.
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Can claim but I chose not to..
I don't feel good revealing to whom I called
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jul 25 2016, 10:21 AM)
Earlier, you claimed that RM30m is the NAV.
Now you change  the phrase to....table/paper asset  "worth" very high and true cash value worth very low. The word NAV was deliberately omitted as you're unsure of which is NAV and which is not.
It's very simple, if you say RM30M is the NAV then the "true cash value" ( I'm quoting your lingo) is RM30M.
Exactly bro. This fellow is your typical 'pusing cerita' case. He fights with anybody who dares to stand up to him and his nonsense. Even forumers on other threads have fought with him because of his nonsense. Except for his comments on electrical drills, he doesn't know anything about financial management and he just boasts about stuff he doesnt have. Who in the right mind would claim having a NAV of RM20mil and yet not be able to secure a loan for a simple double storey house?? Even the banks know he doesnt have good finances and yet he talks as if he is somebody. Typical tin kosong la tis fellow.

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 25 2016, 11:54 AM)
Exactly bro. This fellow is your typical 'pusing cerita' case. He fights with anybody who dares to stand up to him and his nonsense. Even forumers on other threads have fought with him because of his nonsense. Except for his comments on electrical drills, he doesn't know anything about financial management and he just boasts about stuff he doesnt have. Who in the right mind would claim having a NAV of RM20mil and yet not be able to secure a loan for a simple double storey house?? Even the banks know he doesnt have good finances and yet he talks as if he is somebody. Typical tin kosong la tis fellow.

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Funny we had 2 renovators who came to challenge all the finance threads taikors claiming they know better than everyone else; supersound first and kengyan now....

They seem to be active in different renovation traits though, else I would think they are just alter-egos brows.gif
Both likes to call names which makes them stand out from everyone else
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Oh o....! The permaban LYN reject is back with a new dupe ?
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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 25 2016, 01:24 PM)
I see, if this is the case, I'll opt for 2 lines, 1 for company usage and another for private calls.
But is up to you, out of rm70, if rm65 are private calls, then better stay at it is. Else, get 2 lines which can help you to save some money.
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I see..
Noted.

For now my solution is to work on self-improvement in my work field.
So that I can get promoted & increment...
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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 25 2016, 02:03 PM)
Getting increment is 1 of the way, but then will it be every year? Some can get high increment and suddenly get 0 salary due to lost of work.
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So far I get increment yearly
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 25 2016, 12:00 PM)
Funny we had 2 renovators who came to challenge all the finance threads taikors claiming they know better than everyone else; supersound first and kengyan now....

They seem to be active in different renovation traits though, else I would think they are just alter-egos  brows.gif
Both likes to call names which makes them stand out from everyone else
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Both ? "They" are the same person ! biggrin.gif

From the writing style and the content (the lack of), most probably they are the same person. Because everybody ignored supersound, he has to register a dupe
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Wow, visited this forum after several years and discovered that there is an incarnation of Jayraptor from F&F here. Jay was a legend in F&F for his antics.

@kengyan
Keep it up bro, you are doing it right! Our motto is: "We never learn" modified from the Greyjoys: "We never sow"


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Quite Funny reading this thread actually

1) Discussion About NAV and those millionaire NAV or so called "Insurance" promotion Million Dollar Table

2) Read Discussion about Personal commitment from Housing Loan, PTPTN, Credit Card, Personal Loan.
( Never like personal loan, it kill you. Try Reduce Credit Card Debt first. Never and Never opt for personal loan unless needed.
Make use of those Bank ( Balance Transfer Program)


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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 24 2016, 10:08 AM)
He never buy properties, he only buy stocks.I never feel insulted on this, why would I? As said, when a person pointing their finger to others, their remaining 4 fingers are pointing toward them. So who is actually feel insulted?
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i think you have to be more brave and admit what you have said.pusing pusing will only get yourself entangled.
say what you mean and mean what you say.

your post clearly showed that u felt insulted, you can only cheat yourself but not others

as for your fren, if his stocks is worth only RM600k today, only a fool will accept your fren's NAV is still RM30million.
You cant say NAV is a cheat (just becos he paid 30M and got only RM600k now), your fren is if he insist his NAV is 30M

Similarly if u got cheated by one UT agent, u cant say all UT agents cheat.


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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 27 2016, 02:15 PM)
kengyan

i think you have to be more brave and admit what you have said.pusing pusing will only get yourself entangled.
say what you mean and mean what you say.

your post clearly showed that u felt insulted, you can only cheat yourself but not others

as for your fren, if his stocks is worth only RM600k today, only a fool will accept your fren's NAV is still RM30million.
You cant say NAV is a cheat (just becos he paid 30M and got only RM600k now), your fren is if he insist his NAV is 30M

Similarly if u got cheated by one UT agent, u cant say all UT agents cheat.
Kengyan himself claimed he has got NAV of RM20mil. biggrin.gif

But weirdly, such a high net worth individual could NOT secure a housing loan for a cheap double storey house. whistling.gif

Just check out his historical posts on LYN. He fights with many ppl on other threads too. Same old crap. biggrin.gif
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Damn what has this thread become..
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 27 2016, 02:47 PM)
Kengyan himself claimed he has got NAV of RM20mil.  biggrin.gif

But weirdly, such a high net worth individual could NOT secure a housing loan for a cheap double storey house.  whistling.gif

Just check out his historical posts on LYN. He fights with many ppl on other threads too. Same old crap.  biggrin.gif
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Possibly mistaken between Portfolio and NAV? hmm.gif
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I presume have confused/mixed up with historical cost, current market value, NAV n extremely complicated financial instruments (measure by MFRS 139)

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