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post Nov 3 2013, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(1insane @ Nov 3 2013, 12:51 AM)
I guess stress is getting onto me that causes me to worry over several stuffs. The fear of not doing enough preparations for SPM is getting the better of me.
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Hahaha biggrin.gif Looks like everybody's tense is culminating to its zenith rclxub.gif We're still 3 days away though, I guess its the calm before the storm........
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post Nov 3 2013, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Invi_37 @ Nov 3 2013, 03:42 PM)
Here's a tip for writing the contents.
A- Apa
K- Kenapa
K- Kesan
C- Contoh
K- Kesimpulan
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Hey, it's roughly the same as mine for the elaboration in isi biggrin.gif . My BM teacher taught me that in the beginning of this year and I have been using it on any type of karangan berfakta(be it langkah/kesan/punca). It's quite effective and flexible as I can mould it and apply them in any essay,in any way I see fit.
By the way mine is like this:
PENDAHULUAN(SHTKP)
-Situasi
-Huraian
-Tema
-Kehendak soalan
-Penegas

ISI(AMKCP)
-Ayat isi/Apa
-Mengapa
-Kesan
-Contoh
-Penegas

PENUTUP(KCHP)
-Kesimpulan
-Cadangan
-Harapan
-Penegas
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post Nov 4 2013, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Nov 4 2013, 12:55 PM)
Ah, but now no more time to learn already. Exercises and exercises... sad.gif
Does anyone here planning to do motion along the straight line for add maths?
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I'll do it if time permits, due to the fact that I'll always opt for Solution of Triangles and Index Number. But sometimes I do find myself in quagmire when it comes to sketch the triangles...
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post Nov 4 2013, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(reenoo @ Nov 4 2013, 04:32 PM)
i use the table form, my old tuition teacher said it will be clearer for the examiner to mark it and to make sure that you actually know if its kesalahan tatabahasa/imbuhan
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The same goes to me. Since we're on it, I wanna know, are we obligated to state down whether it is kesalahan tatabahasa or imbuhan for each of the erroneous tatabahasa/imbuhan that we'd pinpointed? Because I don't, I just state down what is wrong and right. My teacher even discouraged us to state down whether they're under kesalahan tatabahasa or imbuhan, as she fear that we may mistakenly switch them out of carelessness.
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post Nov 4 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Legozz @ Nov 4 2013, 04:39 PM)
Table form would take some time though. You guys already know what color pens you're using for the essays?
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Yes, but it'll make your works neat and tidy blush.gif Not that I'm really keen on it, but I've been using blue colour for nearly 5 years now, and I don't think I'll be making any drastic changes for the last minutes, guess I'm just gonna stick to it.
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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Nov 4 2013, 06:33 PM)
I just a table. Um, since we are on this topic? If we are using table, do we need to justify if we are correcting tatabahasa or istilah, or just kesalahan?
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I don't think we have to, or unless you're bold enough to give it a shot? blush.gif It might not be that hard for me to pinpoint the kesalahan and rectify it, but I might put myself in deep trouble if I were to justify them wrongly, I'm so not going to take my chances.
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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Nov 4 2013, 06:50 PM)
True, actually, which kesalahan is easy to identify, just worried that I make some silly mistakes.
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By the way Heartnsoul, how do you prepare for your karangan? I don't mean to pry though, just curious. It seems like most of the contoh-contoh karangan that I've stumble across recently emphasise on the utilization of kata-kata mutiara/peribahasa and some crazy quotes. I'm kinda awe by their enhance usage of those eloquence words/proverbs and what-not, but don't you think that the elaboration of our points should be prioritize first? Like @maximR said before in the previous volume of this thread, most of the karangan cemerlang that he has seen practically include all of the flowery quotes/idioms, yet they sorta beating around the bush without having a firm and solid foundation in organizing and elaborating their points,no? If that's the case, then I should most likely scram to add in as many as I possibly can in my arsenal......
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QUOTE(cuzuamazing @ Nov 4 2013, 07:22 PM)
u prepare some peribahasa first, then when u write the karangan u just think of an example and just add the peribahasa into it tongue.gif
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Haha biggrin.gif I don't mean to offend you, but you make it sound like a joke. I can readily insert one or two in both of my pendahuluan and penutup, but it ain't the same for my isi. Yeah, I might just do like what you'd mentioned, but I don't wanna repetitively do that for the other isi as well, it might show that I lack creativity, anyway, we'll just see how it turns out....
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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Nov 4 2013, 07:23 PM)
Yes, I noticed that too. Even the contoh karangan given by my teacher had weak points. Ways to stop gejala social among youths and guess what? Semangat Kejiranan is one of four ways.  doh.gif

I usually try to make my karangans flow nicely, but when all 5 karangans are not something I'm familiar with, I have no choice but to goreng-goreng weak isi with tons of awesome words to "mengeliru" rclxub.gif  the marker rclxm9.gif

They would be like : Wow...this student...bagus bagus, banyak kata darjat tinggi, tapi saya tak tau langsung apa dia ingin sampaikan...whatever la, dia ni cerdik pandai, tengok dia mia ayat, darjat tinggi yo, bagus! 85!
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Seriously blink.gif That's it?? That's all?? You throw in some fancy bombastic words/quotes just to hype up your karangan and you're good to go? Heck, if I'd see this coming, I'll be memorizing tons of tons of awesome quotes of all sort and just puke them out left and right in the exam! But sadly, I don't wanna make another 'sejarah' out of BM. I'm done of memorizing, now it's time to put my critical thinking to the test flex.gif
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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 4 2013, 07:41 PM)
it requires critical thinking too. actually, lots of english words like "comprehensive" and "implicit" are almost the same in malay and are considered ~ungkapan menarik. so i think you're good to go if you can turn some of them into malay. ultimately, huraian and isi, where critical thinking comes into play, is really important. plus on the bright side, since you're so used to critical thinking, you'll be able to whip up some strong isi with good elaboration in no time!

have one or two slogans up your sleeve, and some relevan peribahasa, and all will be well! smile.gif
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Thanks for your input notworthy.gif On the side-notes, it's not that my critical thinking skills are good, it's due to the fact that I distaste memorizing.

Thanks for the tips, will add more into my arsenal if time permits me.
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QUOTE(iimcrystal @ Nov 4 2013, 09:04 PM)
I know this is a stupid question but....
In bm paper 1
How many isi should we write for bahagian A and B?
Cause my teacher is too "ooen one eye, close one eye"
She give mark far to easily
Example,  last year I got 50/130 for paper 1(guy teacher)
This year, I obtain 73/130 for paper 1 (girl guru)
And I mostly write a maximum of 3 isi cause I easily have idea block :c
And my bm teacher have been on and off about extra class
So you could say I'm waiting to fail my paper 1 .__.
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So how many isi should we have for paper 1 bahagian A&B? biggrin.gif
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I don't think it's a ridiculous question, anyway, you need to write out all of the isi that is given from the rangsangan(Bahagian A). I've attended a brief ceramah conducted by my school, and I learned that in order to hit above 25 marks out of the total 30, you've got to show your maturity and versatility to further elaborate on the points given. Meaning, if there are 4 points given to you, then you ought to use all 4 of them, if you really wanna achieve the band cemerlang for your Bhg. A of course. Oh, and one more thing, make sure your words count are more than 300 for Bhg. A, you don't necessarily need to count them out, a rough estimation around that range of words will do just fine smile.gif To sweeten the deal, you have to write at least one peribahasa/kata-kata mutiara.

As for Bahagian B, you need to have at least 5 isi(a total of 7 if you sum them up with the pendahuluan and penutup). And of course, unlike Bhg. A which will only grant you a total of 30 marks, Bhg. B has a total of 100 marks. And you know what that means, your performance in this section should be way more better than your Bhg. A, and that's the main reason on why I'll always skip Bhg. A and immediately and head for Bhg. B the moment I'll be doing Paper 1. In order to garner more than 75 marks for Bhg. B, you should have at least a total of 600 words count, or writing the whole essay with a minimum of 4 pages or so. In addition, you should insert a minimum of 3 idioms or proverbs. That's all there is for now.
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QUOTE(JEGEND @ Nov 4 2013, 09:04 PM)
Pressure and excitement arising , included pimples ! haha . are u guys ready for it ? I'm still chilling around as BM & ENG are both in my hands .
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I'm ready for my BM and BI exams for this week, though I might need to brush up a little since my memory on the komsas are quite rusty. For some reasons, I reckon that I'm so relaxed and chilled these past few days, unlike the moment where I couldn't sleep all night the weeks before I sat for PMR. Well, for me, once my languages exams are over on this upcoming Thursday, I'll really feel the ''real heat'' of the war.
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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Nov 4 2013, 10:10 PM)
For the essay part, do you guys target like a specific chapter to study?
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Can you enlighten me on which subject? Is it Phy,Bio or Chemistry?
I reread the parts that I highlighted in my revision books, and then attempt them in my exercises books, albeit the fact that I didn't do them one by one, just picture the answers in my brain and immediately juxtapose mine with the answers from the book itself so that I can compare both of these answers. I wish I can thoroughly complete all of the essays question in black and white, but since now that time is of the essence, I shall just look for the answers skema.
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QUOTE(Screen @ Nov 4 2013, 10:31 PM)
By the way,

on-line
on line
online

Which is correct?
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I reckon it's the 3rd one, when I segregate the 'line' word from 'on', all I can find is the base definition of 'on' itself. But when I combine both of them into one as a whole, like the third option, I found the meaning of 'online' itself. I'm using a really god-knows-how old the thesaurus is, it's kinda old, but it's trusty.
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QUOTE(assymessy @ Nov 4 2013, 10:51 PM)
I got 115/130 for my Paper 1 karangan. I really dunno how.... lol. Teacher is too lenient I think.

Btw can I ask do they check your tatabahasa in karangan or not ?

Also, can I just randomly put any slogan even tho i tak hafal semua ? tongue.gif
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They don't just thoroughly scrutinize your words/sentence one by one, they check your essay as a whole and give your marks based on certain criteria and impression. When it comes to quotes or peribahasa, few if not most of my classmates who got it wrong on how the markers check them. They reckon that with just mere 1 peribahasa in any statement, they'll garner marks based on the statement. I recall that a friend of mine once told me that I should insert some bombastic and flowery proverbs into that single sentence in my closing statement, with the intention of hyping that sole sentence. Honestly, a single sentences filled with bombastic words or peribahasa won't make it stand out of your whole essay. The essay is marked as a whole unit and by impression, not by breaking them down into bits by bits and inspect them.

But the same cannot be said for kesalahan tatabahasa/ejaan though. Just to let you know, in case you've wrongly spell a word, suppose that it's 'kebanyakan', but you've written 'kebanyakkan'(which is wrong) then the marker will deduct your marks for ejaan by 1. But if you've repeated the err twice, the marker can't deduct your marks anymore. The same goes for tatabahasa, you'll lose probably 1 mark if you write 'di dalam hal ini', which was supposed to be only 'dalam hal ini'. In other words, you might wanna watch out for your grammatical/tatabahasa errs more than concerning of putting in ayat-ayat gramatis/quotes. But, not too long ago, I reprimanded myself regarding this issue as I'd realized that the utilization of quotes/proverbs is indeed vital in forming a solid foundation for your elaboration as well as your isi, wholly. I reckon that it is only with the combined efforts of your firm elaboration, together with your powerful quotes/proverbs, as well as least grammatical errs that keeps your essay superb.
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QUOTE(TheShip @ Nov 4 2013, 10:51 PM)
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How do you answer this type of question? Apparently this is from SBP but my main point here is when they just give you a general statement and ask you to "bincangkan" or "terangkan pernyataan tersebut" which don't specify what we should write, do we write about punca, langkah or kesan? Or we can jumble up?
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I think we should focus more on the kesan, since the statement itself is mentioning that there are tons of kesan negatif. If my insight doesn't deceive me, we already knew from the statement itself that 'ketidakstabilan politik' is the key to this question, so it's the punca/sebab/faktor. Concurrently, I found out that it explicitly mentioned 'masyarakat dunia', ergo it should be a dimensi antarabangsa. Without a doubt, the question wants us to write concerning the kesan/akibat negatif concerning the issue. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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QUOTE(bookie_junkie @ Nov 5 2013, 12:20 AM)
For the Novel part, I'm still confused @_@ What if they ask for 2 nilai that we have learned from 2 novels we have read? Does that mean they want 2 nilai and each novel must give example for the 2 nilai or we write 1 novel 1 nilai?

Oh and just for some additional info, for my trial the kesalahaan ejaan that came out for one of the question was for murtabak. Apparently it's martabak now. Didn't expect that at all hahaha.

And also remember the difference between mencolok mata and menjolok mata. My friends kept getting it confused during our exams so just wanted to remind you guys. (I remember it came out for our year's UPSR haha! tongue.gif)
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I think we should write 2 nilai for each novel, though I've no idea whether it's correct or not. I've only did some questions that required students to give out 1 nilai from both of the novels and further elaborate on the exact same nilai, with different characters and different example, of course.

That's one of the reasons on why I dislike BM a lot. Seriously, those words like martabak/murtabak are killing me. Just to let you know that nearly 5 months ago, I'd only realised that the 'curly' word for BM isn't kerinting, but instead it's keriting blink.gif

Anyway, thanks for reminding us regarding these kesalahan tatabahasa/ejaan thing. They might look like petty mistakes that one can't easily distinguish, but they'll do us lots of pain and put us into agonies if they will be out in the exam.
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QUOTE(chun96 @ Nov 5 2013, 10:44 AM)
How much time do you guys allocate for 'karangan bahagian A dan B'?
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I often head on to Bahagian B and skip Bahagian A as soon as I get the paper, as the marks allocated for the former is higher. I'd say around 45 to exact limit of 50 minutes for Bahagian A, and the rest of them will be used to solely complete Bahagian B. But of course, it's not like I can easily manage my time before I do the questions myself, sometimes it all boils down on the difficultly of the questions. If the Bahagian A is quite easy, then perhaps I'll be able to complete it under 35 minutes, we'll see about it on tomorrow hmm.gif
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QUOTE(MrJohnny @ Nov 5 2013, 11:03 AM)
Which bahagian i should start writing first? I usually start with Bahagian B bcs im scare not enough time...
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You've said it yourself blush.gif We're on the same side, I mean, even if your Bahagian A outperform your Bahagian B by ten folds, the most highest marks that you possibly can garner is around 27 marks or so. Don't wanna make a wrong move on my first day of the SPM, everything plays an essential role, even making wise choices is one of them.
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QUOTE(Mugiwara no Jayloh @ Nov 5 2013, 11:15 AM)
In kamus dewan, thr r both keriting & kerinting. so i guess both are acceptable?  hmm.gif
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Seriously blink.gif But I beg to differ. I've stumble across this exact same problem twice, first I discover the 'keriting' is the correct word, not 'kerinting', all by myself and that was months ago. Not long after that, I'd been again put into the test, but this time, it's my sister's the one who got into a muddle. Her teacher gave her a weekly quiz test for BM and she can only opt for one choice, whether it's 'keriting' or 'kerinting'. You don't need me to spill out the beans, do you? But heck, I had only discover this months ago, and she already knew it at the age of 13 cry.gif

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