Wanna get either Note 3 or Note 2.

Which one do you think ?

Note 3 : around RM2030
Note 2: around RM1450

which the price difference is huge.

Thx.

Note 3 , Note 2 already outdated ....

Note 3. The differences is huge, unless you had money issue, then Note II.

Note 3. best android hp ever bought... (first android hp owned)

If I am a normal user, do you think I should spend the extra to get Note 3?
I think Note 2 also a beast already.

Sometimes it's also about budget. Note2 is fine for all uses except for maybe some very new games.

btw, I seldom play phone games, just use it for processing, taking notes, online, youtube

to me I felt that note 2 is a slow phone, used for 1 month sold off for nexus 4... maybe note 3 will be a better choice.

Isn't that Note 2 and Nexus 4 speed more or less the same.

I m currently using Nexus 4 btw

Lols. I thought it should be the 'best hp ever bought' since it's your first android hp. no?

If money wasn't a constraint, I would say go for N3. Every of us is normal user & definitely be happy if the phone you bought can do more, if you have extra money.

If you just a normal user, never bother on how great the screen looks like, I not said Note II screen really bad, but it ain't that good as Note 3. Note 3 screen is far nicer in color reproduction and sharpness. Note 3 is one of the accuracy screen in market when you set Movie mode, well review by a lot professional site like DisplayMate and Anandtech.

Or never bother on how fast it is, and never play much games.

Then Note II is enough for you, as I believe most features of Note 3 will appear for Note II also in coming updates.

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But I still encourage you go for Note 3 if money is not an issue and if you seldom change phone, then Note 3 is far better and more future proof than Note II. At least I won't think they is any issue on any apps in Note 3 for at least coming 2 years cycle.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Oct 21 2013, 05:22 PM

Just the N3 display alone already owned N2.

Buy according to budget,not according to wish.

One concern is about snatch thief, RM2000+ phone got snatched is not worth ... many of my frens kena b4... btw, do we have phone insurance
available?

You use Note II or 3, or any phone, not take care, any thief will look for it.

Where got people think this issue when pick the best.

Use Nokia Asha, problem solved.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Oct 21 2013, 05:23 PM

Nokia 3310 suits your needs best if you are having problems with you smartphone being snatched.

note 2 is NOT a beast, it's a lazy fat cat, lag as hell. note 3 is just miles better than it's older brother, it's fitter and faster. problem is, the nexus 5 will be coming out in a couple of months and if u don't have that much of a budget, nexus 5 is better.

if u don't take precautions, even cheap RM60 phones also will get snatched. ppl got murdered for far less nowadays.

but I want to get phonelet. N5 should be more or less same size as N4, right?

Only if you have spare cash to spare, otherwise note 2 is a great device with good battery life

I have no idea why you say the note2 lags but you are against tw i know. Screw it and use nova what's the problem there....

Budget: Note 2

Specs: Note 3

Seriously, if you can use the spare cash, the N2 is good enough, at least to hold you off until the Note 4. That's what I did a few weeks back. 600 is actually a LOT when you sit back and think about it.

Properly configured, the N2 has oodles of RAM, has good battery life and is more than fast enough. Plus it's easier to hack and fool around with at the moment, with no Knox to worry about (at the moment anyway) and with a much more "matured" dev environment (the N3 will catch up after a few months of course). Lags? I had a sheetload more lag on my S3 for sure and while the N3 is silky smooth, my N2 is no sloth either.

Properly configured, anyway. Sammy loads their phones with so much bloat to begin with.

Plus all of the current stock probably has the newer eMMC firmwares baked in so you won't have to worry about SDS either.

Like I said before, if you can live with last year's best, the N2 is certainly "good enough". If you have an extra 600 lying around though, DO get the N3 by all means - in a straight up contest of course it's better.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Oct 21 2013, 06:07 PM

upgraded version, ofcourse got improvement.

Very sensible reply. +1

Thx for taking time to reply

Thanks

Don't forget after buying phone, there are hidden cost as well. Such as casing, battery, micro sd card.

Good case, probably RM 50
Original battery with charger dock a couple of hundred
64 GB micro sd 170+
Slim port or adapter, more than RM 50
NFC tags
Power bank
Screen protector
Car charger

ppl who says the note 2 isn't laggy either didn't use it long enough or didn't try any alternatives which are a lot more snappy and responsive before. samsung solved the lagginess by adding more RAM and a very fast processor in the note 3, but it still isn't as snappy as it's competitors. the only reason to get the note is it's S pen functions which is way more useful than all it's major competitors (e.g. the xperia ZU or HTC ONE MAX). if u r in sales and marketing or need to do quick presentation, the note series is the only (and best tool) to do the job. but if u don't need to do these kind of stuff, other branded phones with 4.7" -5" (the Z1 or Nexus 5) are better in every aspect.

simply put, DON'T get the note 2, get the note 3 if u need S-pen and a super huge screen. get the Nexus 5 if u want the best android experience with the least amount of money. get the Z1 for best camera (with that amazing physical shutter button).

I don't find Note II is lag, it is pretty smooth even long use. My sister and colleague is using it, I always play their phone, the phone is pretty smooth.

Only 3 phones from Samsung I will ever recommended.

• Note 3 - if money is not your concern.
• Note 2 - if you got money constraint issue and want S-Pen.
• Galaxy Mega 6.3 - if you got money constraint issue and want much bigger screen.

** Sorry I got no recommendation for normal phone (5" or below) from Samsung yet until date.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Oct 21 2013, 06:43 PM

i think nokia lumia 1020 more appropriate

anyway samsung adding more rams to N3 is to make it even better in multi tasking right? not that they just want clear the lagginess

This post has been edited by edison1437: Oct 21 2013, 06:43 PM

So very true. Fortunately for me my N2 came with a very good Mercury Jelly copy + I had my old trusty Transcend mSD. And all the stuff I collected throughout my time with the S3 was usable with the N2 (HDMI and OTG cables, amongst others).

Still had to get spare battery, a good SP (XSP is great btw) and a spare S-Pen just in case. Sometimes I think it's this "hidden costs" that actually make the most damage financially.

@stormlcc: I personally haven't gotten into any lags so far, but I HAVE only spent a few weeks with the N2. But as you say, nobody else has the S-Pen, unfortunately enough.

Also, there's the fact that prior to 4.3, Android didn't have ftrim routines built in. And without trimming, AFAIK most solid state storage gets laggy after some time. Samsung more than most, for sure.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Oct 21 2013, 06:51 PM

this is pretty subjective some people going to buy these stuff some not

BTW other than pictures and software what do you guys keep in the memory that stock is not enough need to additional memory card

HD videos?

My SD card mainly is for backup purposes, album songs and some HD movie.

Songs itself already 5.24GB as I only put flac or 320kbps AAC/MP3.

5.24 is like 15-20% if N3's available space right?

as for movies i'll delete them after i finish unless it is for other purpose

BTW there is a N3 Thread do we need to stick to the thread?

This post has been edited by edison1437: Oct 21 2013, 06:56 PM

Oh, I not put at Internal Storage, Internal Storage is for apps + misc whatever need to store at Internal Storage, you know now so many crazy 1GB ++ games/apps. I find 32GB is just enough for me but not the 16GB phone.

My current Note 3 only left
- 12GB out of 32GB Internal Storage.
- 21GB out of 64GB microSD card.

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Yaya, OP - happyday119, suggest you get more details about Note 3 at https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3001387

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Oct 21 2013, 07:02 PM

for better multitasking for sure, but crucially, to cure the horrible lag. after update to 4.3 with the TRIM function maybe will reduce the lag further

4.3 will definitely improve on the responsiveness of the note 2, but i doubt it will make a huge impact, just making the experience bearable because the hardware just can't cope with that much crap in the OS. personally i'm not a fan of touchwiz, it's design is ugly and there are just too much bloat. 90% of the stuff samsung put in there are totally useless. not to mention the build quality is truly world class disgusting plasticky. after holding the HTC ONE and the iphone 5, then go hold the note (even the 3) i felt like washing my hands immediately.

HTC One is nothing to proud or wow, I think their defective units is more than perfect unit.

It is not truly beauty also, the front 2 different colors look ugly to me for white version, the black one look nice but too finger magnet, also that back curve - all this issue hold me back on buying it last time.

As usual, different people different taste.

Previous Samsung phone not so nice is due to too shinning back plastic, but this is no longer issue in Note 3.

A lot phones use polycarbonate, include Nokia Lumia, Sony Phone (last year), HTC (last year) - It ain't look cheap.


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Also I personally find Samsung Touchwiz is nice looking be 3rd.

1st - Sony UI
2nd - Pure Android (New KitKat UI gonna be 1st to me)
3rd - Samsung TouchWiz
4th - HTC Sense 5/5.5 (all previous sense none I like)

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Oct 21 2013, 07:13 PM

all those plastic phones, nokia feels premium, just felt good in the hands, samsung should learn from them. the biggest problem with the note 3 plastic is not the back anymore (because it feels like leather) but when u view from the side and hold it, the disgusting feeling came back instantly. and u WILL be touching those disgusting sides pretty often because that thing is so big, u HAVE to grip it.

This post has been edited by stormlcc: Oct 21 2013, 07:13 PM

Sorry I don't feel that for Note 3. I even more happy now holding it than my previous superb solid premium feel phone - Sony Xperia Z or Z Ultra, both phone only look and feel premium when it is new, once it get dirt, and it is easier to get dirt and finger print, then it really feel disgusting where I need unstop wiping it.

Sony this year design got 2 really bad design, 1st is they is a deep inside line surrounding the entire phone screen, after a while, maybe a month, all dusk will suck inside and difficult to clean out. This part make the premium look of the phone completely gone. 2nd is as I mention above, finger print magnet, using both side as glass is a bad decision, it only look nice when it is clean and new.

Nokia Lumia phone most feel solid, except the latest Lumia 1020, especially that yellow lime color, the finish look cheap on that.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Oct 21 2013, 07:23 PM

Well if it's useless, just rip it out. I don't even have the stock launcher anywhere on my otherwise stock ROM anymore. Plus all the other useless crap in there.

Although I do have to concur that ripping the bloat out only applies to more "technically inclined" users. Which means most people are still very well stuck with all that bloat.

As for build quality, what to do. Get me a fully aluminium unibody phone with an SD card slot and a removable battery and than I'll jump ship. Plastic is a small price to pay for practicality IMHO, but that might just be me.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Oct 21 2013, 07:21 PM

Whats wrong with s4??
The screen is way better than note 2 and it looks really good but im curious why it isn't popular compared to other samsung phone(s3,note2)

S4 is kind of failure from Samsung, when start selling that time, it anytime hang/restart itself when you touch the camera.

The entire phone feel lagging, the 2GB RAM is not enough for everything Samsung put inside. Don't said on trim down the bloatware, not everyone do that, and 1st impression on S4 is bad for most people.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Oct 21 2013, 07:29 PM

better wait for nexus 5 then, same price like note2

note 3 better...

Yeay, I like stormlcc's replies. Kekeke

because samsung screwed up their S3 with the spec (too little RAM to run that stupid bloated touchwiz skin of theirs) and made it even more lag than the note 2, not to mention the instability of the system (i got so much complaints from customers about system and data corruption after only 7-8 months). and because ppl here are screen whore, they will just go with anything that is big.

Gawd hating touchwiz has no real bearing on the matter at hand. Since some people are so pro the pure google experience ffs flash in aosp or cm to the note 2. As for lag since that's the topic du jour, 500ms won't kill you is it even 365days x 100 times of 500ms lag or what you perceive to be lag...

Note 2 has one of the largest active community of modders as well so again i say....flash whatever you want if you don't want 90% of the stock stuff.

S pen AND active digitizers ftw.

note 3 note 2 both phone suck! s series better more to human nature....

note 3 in your hand its like urself become clown with big nose...

note 3 for sure!!!!! of coz wait for few month let the price drop abit then buy

Holly Molly...this thread gonna be flame war thread again between Samsung haters and Samsung users.

OP/TS only ask about Note2 or Note3. ...not for haters to barge in and start ranting.

Thread reported.

I was not a fan of a note 2, even with its super specs. But if you have extra cash, its worth going with the note 3. I think the best build samsung phone by far, after the galaxy nexus imo. And the specs, you just can't go wrong with it. 4k ftw

dude just enjoy your phone.
no need to go spreading hate on samsung touch wiz.

when you complain touch wiz in front of non techqie common users, you'll look like a fool, because to most people samsung is branded phone, direct competitor to apple, especially the galaxy s and note series.

when you complain touch wiz in this forum full of people who are well verse in flashing, you look like a bigger fool.
because samsung phones are easy to root, making bloatware removable, and aosp custom roms are available too.
any samsung note or s series. flash any aosp custom rom, enable on screen nav bar. its basically a super charge nexus phone. complete with awesome camera and lots and lots of storage, and removable battery.

i dont have time to dig up source, but i once read cyanogenmod google+ post saying that more than half their user base consist of a combination of s2 and s3 (that was before s4 announced). hence they will still be supporting them even tough exynos is not developer friendly.

this is an innocent thread. should't you report the trouble maker user instead?

recommendation thread is pinned. use it