hai, just want to know, anybody transferred from NA/EU to JAP server, any diff on the culture or attitude?
i've been reading reddit, mostly people from JAP transferred to EU/NA said, the culture on EU/NA is....not good, a bit of culture shock maybe, with many toxic player there.

is it true?

yes, my FC member always complain english players usually curse in chat or simply leave party when the situation does not favor them.

i agree
english player,including SEA player (that i know and not all) is well,whining and cursing alot
especially when english player THINK japanese player not understand english
also japanese player mostly retry Hard Mode alot before quit which is unlike english player after fail 1~2 times they tend to quit

i read in reddit, in jap server (not remember which one), they have TITAN PRACTICE also, jap player usually shout for TITAN PRACTICE,
but when he transfer to NA/EU, he shout like that, all curse and tell-cursed have been thrown to him, he shocked.
and have been advice with new way, DF for TITAN PRACTICE, and create party if want to do real TITAN.

i've experience toxic player also from NA/EU, i tot it's a global issue (JAP and NA/EU have), but after SE have transfer features,then i read in reddit, JAP player people a bit nicer, maybe have 1 or 2 toxic player, but not as many as NA/EU.

gonna transfer to JAP server soon, but not know yet which one.

This post has been edited by riesjx: Oct 21 2013, 03:25 PM

Well considering what I experienced in GW2, I guess this is a normal thing for the western culture. At least they get used to it. Compare to the Japanese, this definitely something "new" to them lol.
So far all my PUG dungeon was started with Yoroshiku and ended with Otsukaresama. They will even apologize immediately on small matters such as aggro-ed 1-2 adds.

I only play in NA server.

In NA servers people give up easily on titan HM. That's for sure.

Also there is a difference of behavior among players if the party consists of people from same world or party is formed from df. DF can be quite toxic if someone doesn't preemptively intervene by saying 'It's ok' when someone else make mistakes. I just make sure I have some popcorn ready.

Also I never heard of shout for titan practice here, except for when it's done internally (with fc member). Just went to Mor Dhona and saw this. Very nice indeed. Even shouts of free titan runs.

Also there is huge difference in endgame community and new players. Everyone is so polite and friendly at level 1-40ish. After that... not many people start with a 'hello' and end with a 'thanks'. I guess many people become jaded after multiple runs of ak or cm . Also shit storm happens when someone killed the lamb in dd. Glad they patched that.

Having said that I've met a lot of very nice players here too. I'd say 80% are nice enough in my book. But maybe that's just me and my experience in /k . I won't transfer considering I love the server and the people in them. Also to be able to farm freely when everyone is sleeping is quite nice .

This post has been edited by wanritsu: Oct 22 2013, 01:10 AM

I just started to do Ifrit HM, everytime I join a NA group there sure to be people leaving after just 1 wipe. No such thing with JP groups, they retry and retry again until they win.

Also JP players seem to be more polite and talkative in party chat compared to NA players.

LOL! yes very true, sometimes a very2 simple mistake then the drama will begin, when that begin, i just do EMOTE SIT in front of them lol!




just transffered to JAP server, still not notice any diff, we'll see few more days when im interact with more people

This post has been edited by riesjx: Oct 22 2013, 12:03 PM

I can honestly say JP players are better, more prepared, know the strategies, polite and stick to it until the end.

Definitely the case, I had a few N/A players rage quit when they themselves made the mistakes. I recently had the chance to be with a tank that doesn't know how to aggro and maintain it. He also dies with every opportunity even though the healer is by and large competent.

At the end, he cursed us to high heavens and then told us to find a better tank if we thought he was that bad. All the other members surrounded him and showed /doubt. He then promptly quit. Hilarious.

I just did a good run of Aurum Vale. With a group of Japanese. It was efficient as all hell. Lots of bowing, welcoming, cheering and tips with every boss. It was definitely better than any and all N/A servers.

i think its how you show your attitude during these runs.

back in NA i never had a problem as if someone was having trouble playing just advise him and give a few tips usually they will follow IF you tell them nicely. but if u rage along with your party member then be prepared to leave the party.

well i do have to admit that JP ppl are much more polite in nature as they always greet and say thanks ( i assume as i dun read japanese) so yes they are very kind.

But in all its good to learn all play roles for all dungeon so you are always ready to advise or give tips to other class if they are having problems.

Just my 2 cents. Cheers

yup maybe,
in REDDIT, u can read many player said about toxic player, that cursing, abusing etc2(but there is no post about that anymore because its become normal)
until they stop playing FFXIV because of this player, at first i tot it's global issue (NA and JAP)
but when transferred available, there are few post said about JAP player is nicer than NA,
i dont know, mybe true maybe not, so lets see this month how is the culture for JAP server

NA tends to gives up easy

If you DF praetorium/cm, they will leave if they found out someone watching the cutscenes

Seriously, if they want speed run they shouldn't DF it lol

This post has been edited by Celestia: Oct 22 2013, 03:30 PM

agreed! my 1st CM was horrible!!
at first i dunno y they keep running,
after i finished my Main Scenario then i understand, it's for Tomes
but at 1st time CM, i just standing there until everything finished, they couldnt careless
as long as they got their Tomes ASAP..yeah for all reason they have, they have things to do in real life and bla2
but they do CM by DF, and expect everyone is their 10th time of runs.

NA will judge you on your gear when you pt with them.
Lousy gear = lousy player. This is their mindset.
If wipe a few times, they'll immediately disconnect from game or immediately leave pt.
If they are leader, they'll kick you off directly.
They're loyal customers to rmt lol..

The Japanese do speed run aswell.
Thats why it is important to specify whether is it first time doing CM at the beginning of the instance.
When there is a first timer we tend to slow down abit and wait them finish watching the cut scenes.
And the main tanker usually will take the leader role to give instructions to first timer on what to do, where to go etc.

omg...in NA, mostly when someone shout "im new here"
BAM! Tank disappear,
BAM! White Mage disappear
BAM!! all the DPS cry

wow heaven and hell difference.
then how in the world the first timer finish their main quest lol

Cause there are a lot a more first timer when they do it, players just forgot they were first timer once as well after they get to 50 and start end-game

I do agree JP players are generally more polite and doesn't just leave when things goes wrong. They can try Primal HM for the whole duration with no one leaving lol

For my Titan HM win I got into a full JP group, cause them to wipe first round cause I didn't know I was suppose to use LB on heart, so we tried again, no one call be noob or anything. We wipe a few more times and got it on the 5th tries, once done they all congratulated me, and I couldn't thank them enough. Throughout the whole fight there was no name calling, no rude remark, everyone was just nice and do their best. Can't imagine how that would went if it was in NA lol.

agree but what they don't know is things like DL gear is shit easy to get, you don't need skill.

100 tomes per run, 35 runs and I get DL armor set. what skill is needed lol

very much agree

I always do this, just to see their reaction. They will moan and then if they look at my artemis bow they will know i'm just kidding Priceless.

That's the spirit. I enjoy playing with new players but with the patience to do it till the end.
Even it's a wipe or a few times round, we're learning. In the final run , everyone in there learn their mistake as a whole. You might not want to do with players with godly gear and overly experience players.
First of all, it's overkill for them and secondly, they already give you instruction from a-z.
So you are only adepted to sure win situation. If the team leader is the only one giving instruction and the rest only follow blindly, u'll see many problem later.
Players not adepted to rough situation will not know how to react.It'll be a ugly ending and they start cursing. pointing fingers ,throw tantrum and leave game in the midst of a battle that's halfway through already.

One more thing about NA players. They had too much AFK habit and it's farking long.

i tend to do mistake even not new player hahaha....opss

based on luck, there is still a good people there that will tolerate new player, but not many i can say


very kind of them hehe


they have run skills


i still can't do that

yeah, me too..i run AK many times, there is one time i think im not in a good mood or something, there is 1 run, ok at the beginning, but its quite bad at the end, and the tank dont like me, eventhough at first he said im a good dps

This post has been edited by riesjx: Oct 23 2013, 03:03 PM

yesterday gotten in an AK run with a stupid healer

well gear is fine, but serious attitude problem

he wanted speed run of sorts and the tank doesn't know the kite method.

he was complaining noob tank and insist to do the kite method. god we have 2 relic dps in group, the amount of time he spend teaching we would have done the place

then worst part comes, we somehow wiped at the demon wall and he wont shut his mouth and keep scolding the whole party.

PS: later I got into my FC AK run, though 1 dps was slightly undergeared and we wipe the 1st boss, we laugh at it, attempt again and complete AK successfully

NA have more attitude problem.
Case close.

or most english players lol

NA/EU are more outspoken with their attitude.
JP are more conservative in their attitude.

NA/EU mostly will quit if situation is not favorable
JP mostly will keep trying on until it's deemed really cannot be won/or until it's won.

Both culture have their shares of bad behaviour players.
JP seems polite. However it's just like a mundane greeting with "yorosiku" and ending with 'otukaresamadeshita".
EN players won't fake you with warm greetings and thanks, because 90% of the time won't meet each other again.

JP players do will rage. They do it "behind the scenes" type. For the newer generations, after a few mistakes/fails/wipes, will look at party list, see got members with "EN" client, will say "gaijin iru desuka?!" literally meaning "we're losing due to having non-JP". Or they will think you don't understand their language say something like " /sigh it's always so messy with gaijins in party"

So, what I wanted to say is, don't be fool by JP being polite and all. They just don't tell you in the face that they wish you were playing better with your jobs. unlike NA/EU that straight away rage on the person that they felt did wrong lol.

It is just a matter of the way on how we express.
Yes, everyone do have the tendency of getting rage in game when there is no progress. How we control it is based on individual EQ (not equipments lol).
Take comparison with the real life world. You wouldn't want a boss that always yell at your face when you did something wrong. In the end, we fed up and quit the job. You can see the same pattern in-game.
It is still a 2-way tolerance. The person did mistakes need to learn on how to apologize nicely, while the others need to learn on how to give forgiveness.
I do agree that not all JPs are the same; as I did encounter a few "toxic players". However since majority of them managed their EQ nicely, I see this is far better than people simply rage and quit.

Just my 20sen.

Source: A weaboo wanabee gaijin who blends into a Japanese community FC and spy on them.

i dont know if there already answer anywhere, but for DF, is it across server? JAP and NA?

nope.

NA and EU are one datacenter, so only NA/EU are grouped into DF, but for JP only one datacenter which is in JP itself, so JP worlds are groupped into DF

but!!!

they have branch the groups in one datacenter... so

here the list of group df

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/ne...25dd4fe2d529149

aah~ ic, thnks, so the other day im using DF for Garuda HM, this WHM easily die, after 3 attemps, 2 tank just leave, and then everybody leave, that my 2nd exp with DF in JAP server, my 1st is smooth as hell, my 3rd and afterwards im with shouted group and we farm garuda flawlessly

It's not just NA/EU players with attitudes. I think many English-speaking Asian players take many things for granted. Some act as if there is no such thing as official forums, never try to search for information before asking, expecting to be spoonfed all the answers, don't want to try to DF anything because want experienced players to carry them through the fight/dungeon without fail, never watch Youtube videos and only ask for boss strategies only after reaching the fight itself. Some blaze through the quests or FATEs, only to ask later "what's a retainer?" or "how come I can only go to so few dungeons" at level 50 because somehow they managed to avoid the main scenario quests...

It's a game, people should read through the text and lore and take their time to find out more about it. There's no point in racing to the end if you don't know how to play.

I play mainly with my AUS FC and havent pugged for a long time.

Experiences with AUS players are mainly positive.

I want to try queuing duty finder with the japanese, but I only know very little japanese so it would be difficult to communicate especially when there's the need to discuss strategy
most of the time I go with other english speaking players they're rude, impatient and will blame others even if it's their mistake

I usually join japanese fate party and they're very polite, when you joined they would definitely greet you, saying yoroshiku and before leaving would say thanx unlike english players who won't bother to say anything at all

it's also fun looking at japanese players when they're chatting with other japanese players they would use all kind of emotes it's like they're really chatting in real life they seem to make the game feel alive

if only I know japanese, sigh~

as im paladin:

japanese player:
when fail, self improve.
rarely until 0% complain
favor to teach
never judge you by armor

us player:
dumb,
swear alot,
not favor them like skip 1 chest leave part before final boss (stupid huh?)
leave when see tank armor not meet their favor
like to blame white mage.
off tank like to agro and run around toward healer and both died.

i use translator,
i tell them im using translator, so i might translater wrong XD

they said ok english man

but to use translator I will have to switch screen going back and forth through web browser and the game
that would be a problem because when I switch back to the game there will be some lag and sometimes the screen become black with only the cursor will take sometime for the game display to come up

This post has been edited by descendant: Oct 29 2013, 08:19 PM

this. i hate dps in NA server why cant u attack the one i've signed? why dont u watch ur threat meter?

I pity all the tanks in the world. I've just started with tanking. now i know the feelings of all tanks.

i personally do believe that not all bad players can be categorize as "US" players...mind you guys that those "English" players in japanese are from asian country as well such as malaysia and singapore or other asian like Philippines or indonesia and honestly i think you guys quite understand regarding some attitude problem from MY and SG players as well lol

I really suggest people read through the Relic quest line and watch youtube videos of the primal fights. Otherwise you're just wasting your time wiping repeatedly because you didn't understand the mechanics (eg, Titan's heart, Garuda's stones).

I played at fearie server. Eu
Consider lucky. Our FC took care of all the members.
Free melding.
And the GM took care of us to the extent of giving free stuff if we stuck on quest or lvling.

There is this one time on duty finder.
That the healer cursing the dps non stop because of slow run.

But that just 1 time.
Overall I think everyone ok.

well..what happened in past is past, for now im happy with my life in tonberry..lets close this thread..