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post Oct 19 2013, 03:57 PM, updated 7y ago

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Before I start my review I would like to say I am very thankful to Edifier for giving me a chance to review the R2800. It is considered one of the signature series of the Studio setups Edifier offers.

The Edifier R2800
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Unboxing it
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I woke up one morning just to realize a Massive box arrived at my doorstep. As for size comparison, it is as large as the Edifier S530D box and it’s ridiculously heavy. Imagine the price of the shipping to be delivered to my house. Unimaginable weight, size, and price.
For a studio speaker setup, the R2800 came in a single box rather than 2 separate boxes instead. It is as expected because it isn’t a pair of active speakers but rather one active speaker and one slave speaker.

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Opening the outer box reveals the true commercial box with flat 3 toned colored prints on it. No fancy multicolored prints just like the Edifier S730D or the S550 box. Not a problem since most likely everyone would just throw/sell away the box as it is quite massive.

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One of the box flaps had a quick setup diagram like how most Edifier boxes have. Good stuff for those who don’t bother to read the manual.

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Opening the flaps reveals huge massive layered foam hiding the goods in. I loved the thickness of the foam as it protects the heavy pair of speakers safely during transport. Inside comes with an active speaker, a passive slave speaker, and a box of accessories.

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You get your manual, power cable, wireless remote (with a pair of AAA batteries), an optical cable, a 3.5mm to RCA cable, and an RCA to RCA cable in the little box provided.

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Now back to the speakers. The speakers are protected with foam and wrapped in plain plastic bags. (no fancy cloth pouches like the E30 comes with) Massive speakers come with massive cloth grills.

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First Impression

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HUGE! As in MASSIVELY HUGE!
For anyone who is considering this unit, do make sure you have a strong wide table with lots of empty space to place it on. A wide tv console is the best spot for this unit if you intended to use these as a home theater speaker.

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The speakers are covered in beautiful black wood veneer. Not too sure if it’s real wood veneer or some pvc stickers but it sure looked luxurious thanks to that. The front grille comes with a very soft but strong cloth material which serves pretty well protecting the speaker cones from poking or any objects flying to it.

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Opening the grille reveals the wonderfully pretty silver cones. The cones feel like reinforced paper to me. Not too sure about the material but paper cone is surely a good form of warmth I should be expecting.
Each side comes with a massive front firing port for the 8” woofer’s massive airflow. The port is protected with a thin cloth net behind it to prevent things from falling in to the speaker. It’s a 3 way Active Crossover speakers which means each pair of tweeter, mids, and woofer are individually amped. Very noticeable hiss in this particular unit though compared to most of the edifier speakers I've tested. But it's okay because once you starts playing something with it, the hiss is barely noticeable. sweat.gif

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Looking at the back of the speakers didn’t really impress me too well as the speaker cables provided for the slave speaker is “hard-wired” which means you are only limited to the provided length given. It is, however, given to you a 5-pin XLR cable (right-angled) so there’s no mistake for any problems about connectivity. In fact, when it comes to connectivity, everything is made super simple to set up and it’s difficult to make a mistake.

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The volume control on the side even has a quick guide on what color represents which input. There are 4 total inputs namely PC stereo, AUX stereo, or if you fancy digital inputs, an optical in or coaxial is also provided at the back. Just switch between those inputs by clicking the volume knob and it will switch inputs. The knobs feel great. The bass and treble volume is potentiometer typed volume control and the turning resistance is not too stiff nor is it too smooth. It is just perfect as it is. Volume ranges are -6 to 0 to +6 for both treble and bass volume and it clicks center when you turn to 0. The master volume features a digital multi click-roll type volume. Very responsive volume control and it feels great too. Position may be a little awkward as the massive R2800 makes changing volume a little far to reach so you might want to swap the left and right speakers around.
There are no heatsink at the backplate for cooling. I’m not sure if this is normal? But I have to say it does heat up quite a bit. Enough to know that it is beyond warm even with no music is playing. Think of an ordinary laptop running warm due to games or any heavy loaded programs. That’s the heat coming out of this speaker on idle. It’s not very eco-friendly knowing that my room gets warmed up too quickly with this hotplate.



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Other side comments would be the remote control provided. It comes with a sexy looking mini brick like remote rather than the modern card remote. Being a brick-like remote is good as you can use ordinary batteries to save money rather than having a hard time finding expensive button cell batteries for card remotes. It’s a good thing. The Remote comes in a shiny black gloss finish with metallic silver colored buttons and silver base. The battery lid is a standard black plastic though. Batteries are easy to install like how most television remote works. No screws, no clips to pry, just slide and place the batteries and you’re ready to go.

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Great remote to begin with but I do not like how cheap the buttons are. The plastic buttons features a very stiff click feel and the worst part is that the buttons has sharp corners that catches your fingers. The buttons reminds me of those cheap low class plastic molds that come in a kid’s toy car remote. Remote is not very responsive on some cases as turning the volume up and down doesn’t make any noticeable difference in it unless you hold it on for quite a long time. Vigorously clicking the button helps though. It is definitely not a luxurious feel for a luxurious looking remote.

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The Sound
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The R2800 needs a lot of time to break in especially the tweeters. Listening to it while it’s fresh from the box sounds horrible as the trebles are not smooth. It sounded like a poor transistor radio when it’s new. Running it with pink and white noise for 6 hours every day helps settle down the problems mentioned above. So do not worry if it sounds bad when you got your pair as it needs time to settle down.
I tested the R2800 with 3 type of sources namely PCM2704 DAC, iMac’s internal soundcard and also via optical.


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General studio test I made was by putting both bass and treble on 0. It sounded real flat and natural without getting boring. Bass is what is presented according to the source I listened to. Trebles are just as natural as how real life would be. Mids are as realistic as possible without even a hint of too much trebles or too muddy bassy warm sound. It’s just wonderful just like how a studio speaker should sound. (I have the M-Audio BX-8a as a close reference to the R2800)(not really a fair comparison but it’s the only studio speaker I get to use as reference)
As a Broadcasting student, we have video editing that requires audio balancing in our videos and in our projects, the R2800 serves very well balancing the volumes of our video. I’ve been using the S530D for my work and it wasn’t really serving me too well as I tend to kill the bass too much at times. Oh well, the S530D is a multimedia speaker for entertainment and it’s good for that purpose while the R2800 has its own purpose to serve as well. (I love both S530D and R2800 equally)
But why stay on 0 for bass and treble when you can boost it up to +6?
So I did that and the R2800 is purely wonderful. From studio speakers, it has become an entertainment speaker for daily usage without having to worry flat studio speaker’s sound. (it’s a problem I have with the M Audio BX8a as the BX8a has zero bass or treble boost for a hint of coloration. It’s strictly a studio speaker)

I’ll start off with movies and shows.
I am not really a movie lover but I do watch movies occasionally for its wonderful sound designing. I’ve recently watched Equilibrium, a 2002 movie about gun-jutsu. A great action movie to use as a reference. The kicks and pumps of Christian Bale gun jutsu fighting everyone is very entertaining with the massive R2800 as the 8” woofer packs bass punches like a subwoofer would give and that was on 0 for bass. Increasing the bass throbbed my heart according to each fight scenes in it. Bass lovers would love this. Not to forget how impressively clear the vocals are. It sounded brightly clean and the amount of body and depth of the vocals are perfect. You would never hear muffled vocals with this unless the audio you are hearing is poor by itself. Even with a poor recorded vocals, boosting the trebles would clean up the mess and you can retrieve the vocals as well.
As an anime lover like me, I tend to watch lots and lots of anime to fill my free time. The current top hit anime is Shingeki no Kyojin. (or Attack on Titan for English) The reason why I chose this anime over others would mainly because the audio designing for this show is as good as movie styled level. As titans attack humanity, they destroy walls and smashes humans into bits as if mosquitoes. With the R2800 everything sounded super gory and human flesh is super juicy. The soundtracks blend in extremely well and with the R2800 ‘studio’ features, everything was portrayed so well that it gave me goosebumps. The blasts and explosion brings out the massive impact and fight scenes with swords clashing are just a joy to listen to with those clean sparkly trebles.

Music:
As a stereo setup, it is definitely perfect for music use. Because it is a studio speaker, you can expect a perfect balance no matter what songs you threw in. Be it rock, metal, jazz, or even trance, hip hop, dubstep. The R2800 tackles them all. In fact I’m listening to music while I type out this review. A few genres I had in my list where I use it as a critical listening test would be jazz, rock/metal, and orchestra type music (be it classical or baroque).
Slow jazz worked perfect with the R2800. Instruments are well separated without being too unnatural. Vocals are strong and powerful with no excess exaggeration. The R2800 differentiates what an acoustic double bass sounds like as compared to electric bass clearly.
In the genre of rock or metal, there is always a problem in defining the sound of an electric guitar. For an electric guitar to sound crunchy or distorted, it shouldn’t sound like a heap of noise but instead, a melody. The R2800 may suffer a little in terms of speed to catch up the distorted tone but it is okay enough to sound good. Having a good drummer who plays fast and accurate makes the R2800 sounded like a good set of drums. The huge pair of 8” woofer did suffer a little in speed due to its size but it performs pretty well catching up.
Digital music such as Trance, Scouse House, Techno, Dubstep, or Lounge, requires a very good balance on each section. Basslines, Synth, and Drums. They all took the spots for bass, mids and trebles. There is no good mixes without a good supporting bass. And without a good set of synth leads, it’s just plain boring bass lines and kicks. Not a problem with the R2800 as the R2800 tackles every section with ease. If there isn’t enough bass there’s always the bass knob to crank up.

Games
Ah, games. I’ve been playing quite often recently. Good games I’ve been playing are Devil May Cry 5 and Mirror’s Edge. (Also I’ve played Aion online but I wouldn’t consider that a good game to test the speakers)
There’s nothing much to talk about Mirror’s Edge to begin with but I have to mention this. It is when Faith walks near any exhaust fans or coolers; it creates a large heavy hum like how a real exhaust fan would sound. The R2800 portrays the sound of the exhaust ridiculously realistic. I’m not sure if I’m fancy of this speaker or the size of the speaker is as big as an exhaust fan but it surely did made me feel like I’m sitting very close to a real exhaust fan which scares me at first. Great stuff!
Devil May Cry 5. I loved this game a lot. Reason? It features a LOT of metal songs which I like the most. Loved how the R2800 performs so fast and wild it makes my blood pumps faster as I play even more of Devil May Cry 5. As I used Dante’s Ivory and Ebony (guns), every gunshot is just pure speed and attack and the speakers are kicking in joy. The moments when Dante kills every demon, the bass drops and the R2800 massive 8” woofers are pumping so much air it’s basically a fan for my face out of the bass. There are times where there’s too much detail it sounded a little fatiguing but it’s okay. It’s Devil May Cry after all.
I shall summarize on how the R2800 sounds. It is a studio/multimedia speaker to begin with. Bass is good and the ranges are wide. The mids sounds sparkly but it has a large body in it. It isn’t warm mids but more of a powerful forward mids. Trebles are as smooth as silk domes can offer but these tweeters require a lot of time to loosen up to how it should sound. As an overall sound, it is a good neutral flat sound which adapts to most type of music or movies and games. It is also a very enjoyable speaker to listen to as compared to most studio speakers out there thanks to the bass and treble add ons.


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post Oct 19 2013, 03:58 PM

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Side review of my very own personal point of views on what I do with the R2800

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I would like to mention that the ports are considered really good places to hide your remote control in it because it is massive and you can put almost anything in it
(I do not recommend you putting anything in the port though. please refrain from doing so)

As a 2.0 bookshelf user, I can say I am really surprised that the R2800 is LARGER than my old Sony SS-D201 with NAD302 amp combo
I mean look at the size~

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It is clearly that my Sony bookshelf loses in size to the R2800
when it comes to size, the R2800 wins even in terms on volume size and loudness.

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Go back home S530D satellite...
You do not belong here shakehead.gif

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Conclusion
The R2800 is not something famous in stores or the internet yet. I had a hard time trying to guess how the R2800 looks like as there is almost no pictures of R2800 ever existed online. I couldn’t even find it in most stores too as it is quite a rare piece (like my S530D). If you were to search R2800, the internet is going to give you an image of the R2700. (What a troll)
I do wish more people will know the existence of this new product R2800 as it is a wonderful setup for everyone. The speakers may be humongous but I wish more people will make space for this setup because I think everyone deserves to own this set of speaker.

The price of the R2800 is around RM750 if I'm not wrong. It's definitely a steal for its price as I don't think anyone could get a good studio speakers in that price. Not to forget it is voiced by Phil Jones icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif

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post Oct 19 2013, 04:23 PM

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Nice review sir. I have one question.

This kind of speaker, need connect to anything ? Doesn't seem i can straight plug and play into 3.5mm jack :\ . Sorry noob here.
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QUOTE(Vryon @ Oct 19 2013, 04:23 PM)
Nice review sir. I have one question.

This kind of speaker, need connect to anything ? Doesn't seem i can straight plug and play into 3.5mm jack :\ . Sorry noob here.
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Yes.
It is a plug and play device to begin with

All Edifier speakers comes with a 3.5mm plug cable for easy plug n play icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(power911 @ Oct 19 2013, 04:29 PM)
Yes.
It is a plug and play device to begin with

All Edifier speakers comes with a 3.5mm plug cable for easy plug n play icon_rolleyes.gif
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Studio speaker and normal speaker different in studio in flat sound right ?
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post Oct 19 2013, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Vryon @ Oct 19 2013, 04:51 PM)
Studio speaker and normal speaker different in studio in flat sound right ?
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Yes
Studio speakers are generally flat because studios require a balance sound in their editing and mixing.
It is too make sure that whatever they are creating is always equal to every customer who listens to it with their own speaker setup.
studio speakers are 'flat' on purpose to make sure the editor knows what is lacking or what is too much (like being too noisy or being too dry in trebles and such)

You don't wanna create music with bassy speakers just to let your friends realize there's not enough bass in your mix.


I would say studio speakers are usually not for everyone but the Edifier is like a hybrid of studio and home speaker.
Just crank the bass and treble up and your audio will sound even more delicious flex.gif

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Congrats to have a chance for reviewing R2800.

Anyway, digital input or analogue input sounds better? Sorry if I miss-read your reviews.
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Good review from power911, informative and full of pics as always.

I got many love to 2.0 monitors, the plus i see on the model is its front firing woofer which eases the placement against wall or confined corner but I got some question, i sorted it back by importance:

-Big translates to heavy and area consuming, how heavy it is? from here says its 27.8kg thats like 1/3 of my weight put on the table lols, can u confirm it?

-8" driver for woofer placed on the table such as your setup, it should have high magnetic force which can affect monitors, mouse or even external dacs placed on the table, refer back here
the enclosure uses MDF board with some foams and the only shielding is via the steel cupping of driver
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steel cupping only provides shielding for sides and back, how about front?

-u mentioned heat, can u share with us the temperature increase against ambience on both idle and working?

-related to above, warm up, does it need warm up or just switch on and start firing?

-the remote is lost/spoiled, do i lost the ability to mute/unmute it?
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QUOTE(Cosef @ Oct 20 2013, 04:06 AM)
Congrats to have a chance for reviewing R2800.

Anyway, digital input or analogue input sounds better? Sorry if I miss-read your reviews.
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I couldn't really confirm this part though.

I personally think the digital optical has better smoother trebles while the analog via PCM2704 has better mids
but on other days (and temperature and mood) it turns the other way round doh.gif
not to worry as it is a very minor change in sound that I couldn't even detect sometimes even when I wanted to icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(jinggothegreat @ Oct 20 2013, 04:21 AM)
Good review from power911, informative and full of pics as always.

I got many love to 2.0 monitors, the plus i see on the model is its front firing woofer which eases the placement against wall or confined corner but I got some question, i sorted it back by importance:

-Big translates to heavy and area consuming, how heavy it is? from here says its 27.8kg thats like 1/3 of my weight put on the table lols, can u confirm it?

-8" driver for woofer placed on the table such as your setup, it should have high magnetic force which can affect monitors, mouse or even external dacs placed on the table, refer back here
the enclosure uses MDF board with some foams and the only shielding is via the steel cupping of driver

steel cupping only provides shielding for sides and back, how about front?

-u mentioned heat, can u share with us the temperature increase against ambience on both idle and working?

-related to above, warm up, does it need warm up or just switch on and start firing?

-the remote is lost/spoiled, do i lost the ability to mute/unmute it?
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1.The russian site says it's 27.8kg and it's true
it is THAT HEAVY
not to worry as well because even with my weak computer table it's holding the speakers well without causing things to go flimsy

2. Magnetic shield here is superb, top notch. Oh mann I totally forgot to mention this part thanks for asking me this question notworthy.gif
shown in the pic below is that I have a super sensitive samsung CRT monitor 'right beside' the left R2800 speaker
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And I have to say there is no magnetic influence at all
Zero screen distortion despite having a massive woofer with massive magnet flex.gif thumbup.gif

But as for your question about front being unshielded?
Unfortunately yes. The front isn't shielded that well. It is actually a normal thing for most speakers.
It took around 3-5 inches of distance to distort my CRT monitor by facing the woofer near the screen face to face.
Hope that answers your question

3.Ahh... heat...
well... in a small room, it does acts as a second laptop for heating the room.
On idle it gets quite warm as if it's a smartphone running on multiple games. Couldn't measure the temperature as I don't have a thermometer lying around but that's the best description I can give.
while on full non-stop loud music playing for 5 minutes and above, it gets a slight scorching heat feel on the backplate just like how hot a normal laptop is running on high graphical games sweat.gif

4: as for speakers warming up... I don't see the need of warming up to sound good.
So just switch it on and play immediately thumbup.gif

5: Losing the remote DOES actually lose your ability to mute sweat.gif

Hope this answers your questions
Hope this answers helped everyone notworthy.gif

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How much is the market price? Rm1k?
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It's around RM750

edit: it's RM799 as Edifier said below icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Oct 20 2013, 02:57 PM)
How much is the market price? Rm1k?
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The SRP of R2800 is Rm799.
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QUOTE(Edifier @ Oct 21 2013, 10:50 AM)
The SRP of R2800 is Rm799.
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Price is okay... but not sure with its sound.

Any showroom for this speakers and other studio series?
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any place where i can audition this? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 23 2013, 02:37 PM)
any place where i can audition this? smile.gif
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You can test it @ Low Yat Plaza or Technetium.
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QUOTE(Edifier @ Oct 23 2013, 02:40 PM)
You can test it @ Low Yat Plaza or Technetium.
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hmm no quieter places to try it out?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 23 2013, 02:42 PM)
hmm no quieter places to try it out?
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For quieter place - Technetium or Power911 home smile.gif

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Oct 23 2013, 03:13 PM)
For quieter place - Technetium or Power911 home smile.gif
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so power911 , apamacam? LOL
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 23 2013, 04:15 PM)
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so power911 ,  apamacam? LOL
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What sound card you using?

as i noticed u just plug in laptop, to play music,


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QUOTE(ikah @ Oct 24 2013, 10:54 PM)
What sound card you using?

as i noticed u just plug in laptop, to play music,
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well I did mention it was T-Muso PCM2704 DAC and iMac's stock soundcard
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hi, thanks for the great review! any idea where can i get this from?
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QUOTE(menghua84 @ Oct 30 2013, 06:50 PM)
hi, thanks for the great review! any idea where can i get this from?
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lowyat should have them flex.gif
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Nice... The review for basshead is what I wait for. Seems like a good buy. But they are massive and small table will have a problem. sad.gif After spending some time with headphone and 2.1 speaker, I guess heart punching bass is an extra for me. What I need is accurate, tight and controlled bass. V-Moda M100 is a bass headphone and HD600 is a headphone some claim lack of bass. Tested both, hate Moda V-Moda M100, love HD600.

And yes, not many shop or people know about this speaker. Spent few weeks in Melaka and I try give a call to buy from them, they either doesn't know the speaker released in Malaysia or didn't know such model exist.
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hmm edifier malaysia website only has this:
http://www.inter-asia.com.my/cms/index.php...series/studio-7

what's the difference? lol
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 31 2013, 01:51 PM)
hmm edifier malaysia website only has this:
http://www.inter-asia.com.my/cms/index.php...series/studio-7

what's the difference? lol
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QUOTE(Edifier @ Oct 31 2013, 02:41 PM)
You can check with bro lex.
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lex bro lex, apamacam? lol
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lex bro lex, apamacam? lol
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Still on music (many different genre from classical, new age, neo-classical, folk, pop, techno, rock, heavy metal, etc), just setup last Monday night. These speakers are big, about the size of an Altec Lansing MX5021 subwoofer thus kinda have to move my hardware around. Also my optical cable was too short, luckily this speaker package comes with another longer optical cable. And there's a bug with the SPDIF (will explain when I write up in the review). Yes, aside that these speakers are great... wink.gif

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QUOTE(lex @ Oct 31 2013, 05:17 PM)
Still on music (many different genre from classical, new age, neo-classical, folk, pop, techno, rock, heavy metal, etc), just setup last Monday night. These speakers are big, about the size of an Altec Lansing MX5021 subwoofer thus kinda have to move my hardware around. Also my optical cable was too  short, luckily this speaker package comes with another longer optical cable. And there's a bug with the SPDIF (will explain when I write up in the review). Yes, aside that these speakers are great...  wink.gif
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how long you keeping it until? maybe i can come over to audition tongue.gif

(may need your help to take a look at my car speakers' crossovers also)
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 31 2013, 06:34 PM)
how long you keeping it until? maybe i can come over to audition tongue.gif

(may need your help to take a look at my car speakers' crossovers also)
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No idea how long, currently on music tests but will start movies and games soon. Then will see how well the speakers (primarily designed for music listening and as studio monitor) will cope. If you want to check it out then give me a call first. wink.gif

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First Impression

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HUGE! As in MASSIVELY HUGE!
For anyone who is considering this unit, do make sure you have a strong wide table with lots of empty space to place it on. A wide tv console is the best spot for this unit if you intended to use these as a home theater speaker.

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The speakers are covered in beautiful black wood veneer. Not too sure if it’s real wood veneer or some pvc stickers but it sure looked luxurious thanks to that. The front grille comes with a very soft but strong cloth material which serves pretty well protecting the speaker cones from poking or any objects flying to it.

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Opening the grille reveals the wonderfully pretty silver cones. The cones feel like reinforced paper to me. Not too sure about the material but paper cone is surely a good form of warmth I should be expecting.
Each side comes with a massive front firing port for the 8” woofer’s massive airflow. The port is protected with a thin cloth net behind it to prevent things from falling in to the speaker. It’s a 3 way Active Crossover speakers which means each pair of tweeter, mids, and woofer are individually amped. Very noticeable hiss in this particular unit though compared to most of the edifier speakers I've tested. But it's okay because once you starts playing something with it, the hiss is barely noticeable. sweat.gif

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Looking at the back of the speakers didn’t really impress me too well as the speaker cables provided for the slave speaker is “hard-wired” which means you are only limited to the provided length given. It is, however, given to you a 5-pin XLR cable (right-angled) so there’s no mistake for any problems about connectivity. In fact, when it comes to connectivity, everything is made super simple to set up and it’s difficult to make a mistake.

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The volume control on the side even has a quick guide on what color represents which input. There are 4 total inputs namely PC stereo, AUX stereo, or if you fancy digital inputs, an optical in or coaxial is also provided at the back. Just switch between those inputs by clicking the volume knob and it will switch inputs. The knobs feel great. The bass and treble volume is potentiometer typed volume control and the turning resistance is not too stiff nor is it too smooth. It is just perfect as it is. Volume ranges are -6 to 0 to +6 for both treble and bass volume and it clicks center when you turn to 0. The master volume features a digital multi click-roll type volume. Very responsive volume control and it feels great too. Position may be a little awkward as the massive R2800 makes changing volume a little far to reach so you might want to swap the left and right speakers around.
There are no heatsink at the backplate for cooling. I’m not sure if this is normal? But I have to say it does heat up quite a bit. Enough to know that it is beyond warm even with no music is playing. Think of an ordinary laptop running warm due to games or any heavy loaded programs. That’s the heat coming out of this speaker on idle. It’s not very eco-friendly knowing that my room gets warmed up too quickly with this hotplate.
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Other side comments would be the remote control provided. It comes with a sexy looking mini brick like remote rather than the modern card remote. Being a brick-like remote is good as you can use ordinary batteries to save money rather than having a hard time finding expensive button cell batteries for card remotes. It’s a good thing. The Remote comes in a shiny black gloss finish with metallic silver colored buttons and silver base. The battery lid is a standard black plastic though. Batteries are easy to install like how most television remote works. No screws, no clips to pry, just slide and place the batteries and you’re ready to go.

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Great remote to begin with but I do not like how cheap the buttons are. The plastic buttons features a very stiff click feel and the worst part is that the buttons has sharp corners that catches your fingers. The buttons reminds me of those cheap low class plastic molds that come in a kid’s toy car remote. Remote is not very responsive on some cases as turning the volume up and down doesn’t make any noticeable difference in it unless you hold it on for quite a long time. Vigorously clicking the button helps though. It is definitely not a luxurious feel for a luxurious looking remote.
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Jus got mine las week amazing sound wth this price jus 1 minor but major prob 4 me : no stabdy by or power button on remote ioi i hv to walk to d bac of speaker to manually turn it off or on ioi
If i jus mute it is it same like stand by or sleep mode which can save electricity ??

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QUOTE(JOe891 @ Nov 1 2013, 01:19 PM)
Jus got mine las week amazing sound wth this price jus 1 minor but major prob 4 me : no stabdy by or power button on remote ioi i hv to walk to d bac of speaker to manually turn it off or on ioi
If i jus mute it is it same like stand by or sleep mode which can save electricity ??
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just switch it off from the back.
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Just thought you guys might want some video preview of the R2800 in action so here are a few

Recorded with a Samsung compact camera (with mic compressor that I couldn't switch off doh.gif)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO7Z6cNwpT4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CmuNC2aGsU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErfVdOmTf6g
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good effort power911 to upload vids
will be watching them later at home

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Is that good use to replace TV speaker?
Source: Hypptv, Media player and Netbook
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Choice A: Edifier R2800 active speaker @ 750
Choice B: KEF Q300 with T-amp from ebay @ RM2200

Which will give better audio?
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Nov 16 2013, 07:01 PM)
Is that good use to replace TV speaker?
Source: Hypptv, Media player and Netbook
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DEFINITELY thumbup.gif

I did that and it's awesome~~~

it's just that hypptv isn't using the speakers to its max potential that's why I pair it back to my laptop
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Nov 16 2013, 10:32 PM)
Choice A: Edifier R2800 active speaker @ 750
Choice B: KEF Q300 with T-amp from ebay @ RM2200

Which will give better audio?
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Choice B will sound better depending on what amp you use

that's just my personal opinion but I do remember the KEF Q300 sounds very interesting
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How about those sale Jamo speaker and Onkyo AV receiver, just 2.0 setup cause
most of the time watching sport, news and drama.

Last time I was consider the Focal bird speaker system but the price tag compare to Edifier are much more affordable rclxms.gif
But Focal Bird sound very impressive cool.gif drool.gif

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Nov 17 2013, 02:23 AM)
How about those sale Jamo speaker and Onkyo AV receiver, just 2.0 setup cause
most of the time watching sport, news and drama.

Last time I was consider the Focal bird speaker system but the price tag compare to Edifier are much more affordable  rclxms.gif
But Focal Bird sound very impressive  cool.gif  drool.gif
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most of those are considered home speakers and they will sound better due to proper coloration

Edifier Studio 8 is designed like studio speakers... no coloration so it's a love and hate situation for those who wanted more wink.gif
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just wondering, what software u use to play the songs?
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QUOTE(menghua84 @ Nov 20 2013, 12:15 PM)
just wondering, what software u use to play the songs?
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Foobar ><
with Wasapi

and for my Macintosh... standard itunes tongue.gif
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Got dimensions of the speaker?
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Got dimensions of the speaker?
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Attached File  Studio_8__R2800_.pdf ( 568.49k ) Number of downloads: 434


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QUOTE(power911 @ Dec 8 2013, 08:44 PM)
Attached File  Studio_8__R2800_.pdf ( 568.49k ) Number of downloads: 434


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Thanks... It's freaking huge. Not enough space on my table. I need something smaller than my SP2500, but can be put on my table. Don't know what to buy now. Hehe... BTW, how much will you rate this speaker bass compared to C3?
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Dec 8 2013, 11:40 PM)
Thanks... It's freaking huge. Not enough space on my table. I need something smaller than my SP2500, but can be put on my table. Don't know what to buy now. Hehe... BTW, how much will you rate this speaker bass compared to C3?
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rate? i don't know man...
it surely is both different beasts~

C3 bass surely lose in terms of volume but powerful in tightness (volume wise just slightly~ I'm not too sure)
R2800 sounds a lil loose in response but dual 8 inchers gonna give you dual subs XD
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QUOTE(power911 @ Dec 9 2013, 06:07 PM)
rate? i don't know man...
it surely is both different beasts~

C3 bass surely lose in terms of volume but powerful in tightness (volume wise just slightly~ I'm not too sure)
R2800 sounds a lil loose in response but dual 8 inchers gonna give you dual subs XD
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Dual sub so good? Lil loose means less tight and punch bass? I suspect they tend to loose at loud volume right?
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Dec 9 2013, 07:23 PM)
Dual sub so good? Lil loose means less tight and punch bass? I suspect they tend to loose at loud volume right?
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Dual subs is just preference~ I like the feel of 2.0 with stereo midbass
but usually bass is omnidirectional so the feel of stereo bass is usually mild

The R2800 woofers have a loose suspension as compared to C3's subwoofer's suspension.

Different spiders used perhaps?

be it loud or soft, they may not be able to catch up on fast songs
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QUOTE(power911 @ Dec 9 2013, 07:16 PM)
Dual subs is just preference~ I like the feel of 2.0 with stereo midbass
but usually bass is omnidirectional so the feel of stereo bass is usually mild

The R2800 woofers have a loose suspension as compared to C3's subwoofer's suspension.

Different spiders used perhaps?

be it loud or soft, they may not be able to catch up on fast songs
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I listened to fast song a lot. Need to hunt other speaker. Most of 2.1 are large. Sigh...
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Power911, is this speaker is a good replacement for 5.1 speaker?
Considering to buy this R2800. Recently my Edifier DA5000 Pro burn and it's gone. My connection are. Asus Xonar D2X > Digital Decoder > DA5000 Pro to come out with the digital output.

Any comment if I change from DA5000 Pro 5.1 to R2800?
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QUOTE(gavinfong @ Dec 20 2013, 12:29 PM)
@power911

Power911, is this speaker is a good replacement for 5.1 speaker?
Considering to buy this R2800. Recently my Edifier DA5000 Pro burn and it's gone. My connection are. Asus Xonar D2X > Digital Decoder > DA5000 Pro to come out with the digital output.

Any comment if I change from DA5000 Pro 5.1 to R2800?
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I couldn't remember how DA5000PRO sounds like but I can say it's 2 different beasts~

from DA5000PRO to R2800... expect bright sounds~ because if I remember the DA5000PRO isn't that bright sounding compared to my S530D speaker~
you can say DA5000PRO trebles are kinda sharp but rolled off while the R2800 just basically pierce like a golden spear~

I couldn't tell much but I'd hope you'll repair your DA5000PRO rather than replacing it with R2800 to save money icon_rolleyes.gif
when you feel like changing some taste in sound~ then go test out the R2800 thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(power911 @ Dec 20 2013, 02:53 PM)
I couldn't remember how DA5000PRO sounds like but I can say it's 2 different beasts~

from DA5000PRO to R2800... expect bright sounds~ because if I remember the DA5000PRO isn't that bright sounding compared to my S530D speaker~
you can say DA5000PRO trebles are kinda sharp but rolled off while the R2800 just basically pierce like a golden spear~

I couldn't tell much but I'd hope you'll repair your DA5000PRO rather than replacing it with R2800 to save money icon_rolleyes.gif
when you feel like changing some taste in sound~ then go test out the R2800 thumbup.gif
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Thx for your reply. i just repaired my da5000pro but use only 1 months + and now it burn again. worried is the circuit board got problem.
This time is totally no power again and the fuse is not burn. last time is fuse burn then take to repaired. this time i give up, because b4 this after repaired the woofer is not sound as original tat bassy anymore. it need me to adjust my bass till very high only feel it and it sound loose.

think of buy back 5.1 speaker but no idea should go to which speaker. do you have any recommended 5.1 speaker?
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QUOTE(gavinfong @ Dec 21 2013, 01:26 AM)
Thx for your reply. i just repaired my da5000pro but use only 1 months + and now it burn again. worried is the circuit board got problem.
This time is totally no power again and the fuse is not burn. last time is fuse burn then take to repaired. this time i give up, because b4 this after repaired the woofer is not sound as original tat bassy anymore. it need me to adjust my bass till very high only feel it and it sound loose.

think of buy back 5.1 speaker but no idea should go to which speaker. do you have any recommended 5.1 speaker?
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I don't have a good recommendation for 5.1 that I can think of other than Edifier S550 as an upgrade~ sorry sad.gif
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Contemplating the R2800. Anywhere to test it?
Edifier mentioned Technetium which is in Klang? blink.gif
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How long is the XLR cable?
How do they souind on low/mid volume? Do I need to jack up the volume to hear everything these speakers can offer?
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How long is the XLR cable?
How do they souind on low/mid volume? Do I need to jack up the volume to hear everything these speakers can offer?
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not too sure about the length as I don't have the unit with me anymore

They sound best on mid-volume in my opinion and it is up to you to jack up the volume depending on your needs.
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How long is the XLR cable?
How do they souind on low/mid volume? Do I need to jack up the volume to hear everything these speakers can offer?
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QUOTE(ksat90 @ Dec 31 2013, 04:39 PM)
Contemplating the R2800. Anywhere to test it?
Edifier mentioned Technetium which is in Klang?  blink.gif
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Saw it at Viewnet Lowyat Plaza..
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May I know how you guys setup R2800? My setup as below. Anyway to improve further? I am considering getting a USB DAC.

HTPC (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec), optical out, foobar (asio/wasapi) --> choseal Hi-Fi Super AV Optical Cable GB-1702 --> R2800

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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jan 2 2014, 05:17 PM)
May I know how you guys setup R2800? My setup as below. Anyway to improve further? I am considering getting a USB DAC.

HTPC (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec), optical out, foobar (asio/wasapi) --> choseal Hi-Fi Super AV Optical Cable GB-1702 --> R2800
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I used T-Muso PCM2704 analog output with stock cables lol

plain foobar set to dedicated DAC without wasapi
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jan 2 2014, 04:17 PM)
May I know how you guys setup R2800? My setup as below. Anyway to improve further? I am considering getting a USB DAC.

HTPC (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec), optical out, foobar (asio/wasapi) --> choseal Hi-Fi Super AV Optical Cable GB-1702 --> R2800
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u are using the edifier DAC built inside speaker, giving "cost restrained" quality (u know i know la...)
so an independent DAC will improve along with your quality source (music file)
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hello may i know ur personal comparisons with this and ur M-Audio BX8? Im starting to learn how to produce songs but i dont have the budget for REAL studio monitors...so wana see these how do they turn out for mixing? And im actually looking for the smaller brother for this which is the Studio R2600 but reviews too low out there XD wondering whether u've heard of it?
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QUOTE(Jaroque @ Jan 14 2014, 03:27 AM)
hello may i know ur personal comparisons with this and ur M-Audio BX8? Im starting to learn how to produce songs but i dont have the budget for REAL studio monitors...so wana see these how do they turn out for mixing? And im actually looking for the smaller brother for this which is the Studio R2600 but reviews too low out there XD wondering whether u've heard of it?
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honestly I've never heard of the BX8 and I forgot the sound of R2600

but about mixing songs, any speaker will do as long as you put all the speakers to flat settings wink.gif

That's what I did when I'm composing something in my college days with my Edifier E3100/Altec Lansing ATP3
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jan 14 2014, 09:59 AM)
honestly I've never heard of the BX8 and I forgot the sound of R2600

but about mixing songs, any speaker will do as long as you put all the speakers to flat settings wink.gif

That's what I did when I'm composing something in my college days with my Edifier E3100/Altec Lansing ATP3
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Ohh cause u mentioned U have the M-Audio BX-8a for close reference in the initial review? haha XD
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QUOTE(Jaroque @ Jan 14 2014, 12:40 PM)
Ohh cause u mentioned U have the M-Audio BX-8a  for close reference in the initial review? haha XD
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BX8a and BX8 is different in many parts especially their cone properties (despite looking similar)

so I wouldn't dare to assume they're blood brothers~
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jan 14 2014, 04:15 PM)
BX8a and BX8 is different in many parts especially their cone properties (despite looking similar)

so I wouldn't dare to assume they're blood brothers~
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oh yeah they do look quite different haha, so how was BX8a compared to this model then?
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QUOTE(Jaroque @ Jan 14 2014, 07:30 PM)
oh yeah they do look quite different haha, so how was BX8a compared to this model then?
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I can say BX8a sounded a little more V shape while the R2800 is a U sounding shape

yea...

the R2800 has more high-mids while the BX8a has a lil muddy mids

R2800 is a bright sounding monitor as compared to BX8a dark signature sound.

BX8a responds to speed better than R2800 though

I hope this is enough lols~
other than that I couldn't say anymore as I personally find R2800 is as good as BX8a (or better because I can adjust the bass/treble to reasonable levels while BX8a... staying as a monitor speaker... can't adjust bass/treble)
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jan 14 2014, 07:16 PM)
I can say BX8a sounded a little more V shape while the R2800 is a U sounding shape

yea...

the R2800 has more high-mids while the BX8a has a lil muddy mids

R2800 is a bright sounding monitor as compared to BX8a dark signature sound.

BX8a responds to speed better than R2800 though

I hope this is enough lols~
other than that I couldn't say anymore as I personally find R2800 is as good as BX8a (or better because I can adjust the bass/treble to reasonable levels while BX8a... staying as a monitor speaker... can't adjust bass/treble)
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im eyeing for this too but my main concern is my room size. my room is small. around 5m x 5m would it be overkill?

should i just settle with the 6" bass version studio 2700..?

only 200 price difference..

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QUOTE(jackwylde @ Jan 24 2014, 08:47 PM)
im eyeing for this too but my main concern is my room size. my room is small. around 5m x 5m would it be overkill?

should i just settle with the 6" bass version studio 2700..?

only 200 price difference..
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My room is tiny when I tested this beast lol

so far no problems with it on low to mid-high volume

I start hearing standing waves when I reached around 75% volume which is pretty ear pain situations lol

it really depends on how you place it.
as for me I'd say if you think it's a little overkill... then don't play such overkill volumes lol sweat.gif
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thanks for the info.

well some speakers need to be a lil bit loud to get a good sound.
thats what im concern about since its pretty big. lol.

what about the studio 7? have u tried it? only diff is a smaller woofer 6.25" and lil bit low wattage.

i dont really dig big boom2 bass but its nice to have some decent bass sometimes.
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QUOTE(jackwylde @ Jan 25 2014, 03:13 AM)
thanks for the info.

well some speakers need to be a lil bit loud to get a good sound.
thats what im concern about since its pretty big. lol.

what about the studio 7? have u tried it? only diff is a smaller woofer 6.25" and lil bit low wattage.

i dont really dig big boom2 bass but its nice to have some decent bass sometimes.
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I didn't try it in a controlled situation (tested at a noisy store)

but I can say they are totally different beasts in terms of sound
That is all I can say though notworthy.gif sweat.gif
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Compare this with the Hivi/Swan M200 Mk II for music?
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 25 2014, 04:55 PM)
Compare this with the Hivi/Swan M200 Mk II for music?
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Can this Edifier act as a passive speakers? I don't wanna waste my tube amp.
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QUOTE(xowangzi @ May 1 2014, 05:06 PM)
Can this Edifier act as a passive speakers? I don't wanna waste my tube amp.
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QUOTE(xowangzi @ May 1 2014, 05:06 PM)
Can this Edifier act as a passive speakers? I don't wanna waste my tube amp.
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do u mean modify it? Dissemble it and solder to a banna plug and plug with my own amp ?
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do u mean modify it? Dissemble it and solder to a banna plug and plug with my own amp ?
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you can test run your tube amp with left speaker first
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exactly, modify it.
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QUOTE(power911 @ Oct 19 2013, 03:58 PM)


Power911, how would you compare this with AudioEngine A5+ in overall?
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QUOTE(power911 @ Oct 19 2013, 03:58 PM)


Power911, how would you compare this with AudioEngine A5+ in overall?
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I don't remember how the Audioengine sounds anymore but..........

I can say there are more bass and treble than the A5+ as long as you crank it more than 0
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feel like getting this pair of speaker and have to get a pair of speaker stand for these~ anyone have recommendation what speaker stand to use for this speaker? about 28" height
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feel like getting this pair of speaker and have to get a pair of speaker stand for these~ anyone have recommendation what speaker stand to use for this speaker? about 28" height
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power911 How does this compare to R2700? (R2700 vs R2800). Is it worth the upgrade of RM200?
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QUOTE(asunakirito @ Aug 25 2014, 11:10 PM)
power911 How does this compare to R2700? (R2700 vs R2800). Is it worth the upgrade of RM200?
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R2700 is more musical if I'm not wrong.
I forgot how the R2700 sounds like already but I know the bass is tighter than the R2800

R2800 is more cinematic fuller sound though
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QUOTE(power911 @ Aug 26 2014, 12:42 AM)
R2700 is more musical if I'm not wrong.
I forgot how the R2700 sounds like already but I know the bass is tighter than the R2800

R2800 is more cinematic fuller sound though
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Yup, I agree with you. Tested at Sri Computer @ Lowyat.
The R2700 is more confined compared to R2800. R2800 suitable for movies (bigger soundstage) smile.gif
Also need to play higher volume to sound good (about 2-3 volume up) compared to the R2800 when both treble+bass set at 0 (balance).
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@ power911,
Edifier R 2700 or R 2800 Vs MIcrolab Solo9c which will give me better sound, like tight bass/beat, music/tweeter performance. I like clear sound (not boom-boom/bassy). Remember... in my country R2800 is not available, but R2700 price is 28000 Tk (RM1210) and Microlab Solo 9c price is 19000 Tk (RM820). Edifier S530 is also availabe. I need a good help.
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hi, if anyone interested in a R2800, please pm me to discuss. Used 1 month, purchased march, after use a while, dont like the sound, wanna sell back.
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QUOTE(Tahmidur @ Nov 13 2014, 01:21 AM)
@ power911,
                    Edifier R 2700 or R 2800 Vs MIcrolab Solo9c which will give me better sound, like tight bass/beat, music/tweeter performance. I like clear sound (not boom-boom/bassy). Remember... in my country R2800 is not available, but R2700 price is 28000 Tk (RM1210) and Microlab Solo 9c  price is 19000 Tk (RM820). Edifier S530 is also availabe. I need a good help.
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hi, if anyone interested in a R2800, please pm me to discuss. Used 1 month, purchased march, after use a while, dont like the sound, wanna sell back.
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Pm me best price
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QUOTE(Tahmidur @ Nov 13 2014, 02:21 AM)
@ power911,
                    Edifier R 2700 or R 2800 Vs MIcrolab Solo9c which will give me better sound, like tight bass/beat, music/tweeter performance. I like clear sound (not boom-boom/bassy). Remember... in my country R2800 is not available, but R2700 price is 28000 Tk (RM1210) and Microlab Solo 9c  price is 19000 Tk (RM820). Edifier S530 is also availabe. I need a good help.
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mann I didn't even notice this question ahahahhahaa
Thanks for the tag biggrin.gif


Sorry for the late reply. Hope you still need my help. (not sure if I could even help or not sad.gif )

I personally have not tested the Microlab Solo 9c as it is not available in my country.

By my estimation (from reading reviews only) the Microlab Solo 9c should fit your requirement for tight bass

The Edifier R2700 is quite a good choice for speed tight bass but how responsive it is against Microlab Solo 9c... I would say Microlab is better due to four 6.5" woofers working together rather than R2700 two 6.5" woofers.

Those are just merely prediction from me and may not be true to real products.

but if I were to compare R2700 and S530D, The S530D gives a deeper bass while maintaining tight speeds.

I apologize again for a late reply but I hope this would help you
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QUOTE(power911 @ Apr 7 2015, 10:18 PM)
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remember how i always bitched about the Edifier C3 being piss poor on the mids?

i fixed it by having a R2800 running in parallel (3.5mm Y splitter to both C3 and R2800 PC input), and voila... decent "hi-fi" system for around/less than 1k without a AVR/DAC/AMP laugh.gif
the puny (in comparison to the R2800 rofl!) C3 speakers sits on top of the R2800 speakers, subwoofer still at the same corner/spot on the ground.

to further quench my thirst for HD, i even purposely imported a Samsung hdmi DVD player that's region unlocked from Amazon US lol. (from rough lookup, that particular model is only sold in saudi, and it's parallel imported for region unlocking and what not)
since a lot of my imported japanese DVD are region locked and the dvd player that's region free here typically runs on component output without hdmi sad.gif
AFAIK Malaysia Samsung never had any dvd player that supports anynet+/hdmi
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 25 2015, 12:53 AM)
remember how i always bitched about the Edifier C3 being piss poor on the mids?

i fixed it by having a R2800 running in parallel (3.5mm Y splitter to both C3 and R2800 PC input), and voila... decent "hi-fi" system for around/less than 1k without a AVR/DAC/AMP laugh.gif
the puny (in comparison to the R2800 rofl!) C3 speakers sits on top of the R2800 speakers, subwoofer still at the same corner/spot on the ground.

to further quench my thirst for HD, i even purposely imported a Samsung hdmi DVD player that's region unlocked from Amazon US lol. (from rough lookup, that particular model is only sold in saudi, and it's parallel imported for region unlocking and what not)
since a lot of my imported japanese DVD are region locked and the dvd player that's region free here typically runs on component output without hdmi sad.gif
AFAIK Malaysia Samsung never had any dvd player that supports anynet+/hdmi
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mann I never thought of playing more speakers at once doh.gif
I'm curious on how you control the volume simultaneously

would love to see a pic of your setup tongue.gif tongue.gif nod.gif nod.gif

(gotta dig my old sony bookshelves + nad302 to pair with my Edifier S530D to see what you experienced) sweat.gif
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jun 25 2015, 12:46 AM)
mann I never thought of playing more speakers at once doh.gif
I'm curious on how you control the volume simultaneously

would love to see a pic of your setup  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  nod.gif  nod.gif

(gotta dig my old sony bookshelves + nad302 to pair with my Edifier S530D to see what you experienced) sweat.gif
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well the C3 ALWAYS reset the volume to "30", while the R2800 has no display, so i just agak agak set it to a volume slightly above the C3 (assuming the volume holds constant and does not reset, haven't really got the time to test this out)

then voila just control from my tv (since i dont have additional avr/amp/dac)

and from my bluray/dvd players since they all samsung, anynet function links them all up and i pretty much just use my tv remote to control everything lol.

pictures asap so long i remember to take them when i get back XD
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 25 2015, 12:12 PM)
well the C3 ALWAYS reset the volume to "30", while the R2800 has no display, so i just agak agak set it to a volume slightly above the C3 (assuming the volume holds constant and does not reset, haven't really got the time to test this out)

then voila just control from my tv (since i dont have additional avr/amp/dac)

and from my bluray/dvd players since they all samsung, anynet function links them all up and i pretty much just use my tv remote to control everything lol.

pictures asap so long i remember to take them when i get back XD
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haha thanks to your inspiration you got me digging my old massive speaker for pairing

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Currently testing things out XD

I'm starting to miss the sound or R2800 whistling.gif

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QUOTE(power911 @ Jun 25 2015, 11:54 AM)
haha thanks to your inspiration you got me digging my old massive speaker for pairing

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Currently testing things out XD

I'm starting to miss the sound or R2800 whistling.gif
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too bad my computer deskspace is VERY limited, else i'd consider buying another set of R2800 for my own use brows.gif
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massive space for massive setup lolol
so much bigger than mine thumbup.gif

I wish i have more flexibility for my table space laugh.gif

I realized in my testings I get some weird whooshing comb filter sounds

can't satisfy without pairing the same brand signature sound.
Mine's basically one orange one apple when it comes to sound and it has gotten super messy especially in the trebles sweat.gif
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 11 2015, 11:03 PM)
massive space for massive setup lolol
so much bigger than mine thumbup.gif

I wish i have more flexibility for my table space laugh.gif

I realized in my testings I get some weird whooshing comb filter sounds

can't satisfy without pairing the same brand signature sound.
Mine's basically one orange one apple when it comes to sound and it has gotten super messy especially in the trebles sweat.gif
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it's my living room la so that's that lol.
my mom's friends made a lot of comment on how the speakers are so big/sound quality being good so it was all worth it tongue.gif

for my own comp table it's just a puny S530D hehe

so far mine was messy too since i had the R2800 to run on optical and C3 on analog. i just couldn't make a perfect sync despite playing around with the optical sound delays.
thankfully i got a 3.5mm splitter later on and both now runs on analog and it's all working perfect now biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 12 2015, 12:10 AM)
it's my living room la so that's that lol.
my mom's friends made a lot of comment on how the speakers are so big/sound quality being good so it was all worth it tongue.gif

for my own comp table it's just a puny S530D hehe

so far mine was messy too since i had the R2800 to run on optical and C3 on analog. i just couldn't make a perfect sync despite playing around with the optical sound delays.
thankfully i got a 3.5mm splitter later on and both now runs on analog and it's all working perfect now biggrin.gif
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sad, mine's on analog and I get delay problems doh.gif
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 12 2015, 02:06 PM)
sad, mine's on analog and I get delay problems doh.gif
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strange, since analog just sends the same analog/electrical signals.

unless the y splitter is having issue? or the crossover frequencies is just different with different brand (not so much delay i don't think)
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 12 2015, 08:02 PM)
strange, since analog just sends the same analog/electrical signals.

unless the y splitter is having issue? or the crossover frequencies is just different with different brand (not so much delay i don't think)
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probably different conflicting tweeters (piezo vs silk) or either they are off phase
no idea sweat.gif

got lazy and put them back in place again laugh.gif
according to my lecturer he said it could be size problems causing different speeds in oscillations as piezo is quite responsive compared to silk smooth cones
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 12 2015, 11:35 PM)
probably different conflicting tweeters (piezo vs silk) or either they are off phase
no idea sweat.gif

got lazy and put them back in place again  laugh.gif
according to my lecturer he said it could be size problems causing different speeds in oscillations as piezo is quite responsive compared to silk smooth cones
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seems like a more complicated problem than anticipated lol
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hey hi guys, i saw power911 was saying solo 9c not available in our country. is that still a fact? cos i've been looking high and low for this. thinking you guys may have found a reseller around maybe?

thx
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hey hi guys, i saw power911 was saying solo 9c not available in our country. is that still a fact? cos i've been looking high and low for this. thinking you guys may have found a reseller around maybe?

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QUOTE(Shoot@M3 @ Jul 22 2015, 11:24 PM)
power911
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hey hi guys, i saw power911 was saying solo 9c not available in our country. is that still a fact? cos i've been looking high and low for this. thinking you guys may have found a reseller around maybe?

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There is a dealer in this forum if you hunt in the trade zone but it is in 2013 and the thread is closed here

you can try asking the user to see if there is still any chance
facebook page seems to be active still

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any suggest good & value DAC for Studio 7/8 ?
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QUOTE(dhexxter @ Jul 23 2015, 12:33 PM)
any suggest good & value DAC for Studio 7/8 ?
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the built in dac is good but if you need more

http://stoneracoustics.blogspot.com/
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nah i wanted an active speaker for my living room setup. it's actually either that microlab solo7c/9c vs this r2800 smile.gif
but seems some online review goes towards the r2800 setup
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hmm not familiar with that... you looking to pair that with edifier r2800?
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Yeap i've contacted that seller already, but seems they have stopped bringing in Microlab. seems gone to dead end again this time
Anyway thanks for the reply ya

btw since R2800 is studio speaker and goes towards flat response i guess it's up to the DAC or the built-in equalizer settings to give color to the speaker right?

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There is a dealer in this forum if you hunt in the trade zone but it is in 2013 and the thread is closed here

you can try asking the user to see if there is still any chance
facebook page seems to be active still
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QUOTE(Shoot@M3 @ Jul 23 2015, 06:58 PM)
btw since R2800 is studio speaker and goes towards flat response i guess it's up to the DAC or the built-in equalizer settings to give color to the speaker right?

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yup yup
color it with dac and eq if you need

but I find it more than flat if you dial the bass and treble knob more than the middle 0 mark
You're getting both flat sound of a studio or the colorful sound of a consumer speaker in one package thumbup.gif
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ugh stop tempting me bro haha
thx ya for the replies. i'll look at my options later smile.gif
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yup yup
color it with dac and eq if you need

but I find it more than flat if you dial the bass and treble knob more than the middle 0 mark
You're getting both flat sound of a studio or the colorful sound of a consumer speaker in one package thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 23 2015, 10:42 PM)
yup yup
color it with dac and eq if you need

but I find it more than flat if you dial the bass and treble knob more than the middle 0 mark
You're getting both flat sound of a studio or the colorful sound of a consumer speaker in one package thumbup.gif
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i highly agree with this.

i have the treble/bass knobs dialed a few notches biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jul 23 2015, 11:48 AM)
the built in dac is good but if you need more

http://stoneracoustics.blogspot.com/
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which recomend.. r2730 or r2800? i dont really need the bluetooth function..

which sound more detail and staging wide..
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which recomend.. r2730 or r2800? i dont really need the bluetooth function..

which sound more detail and staging wide..
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if you can accommodate the space, easily 2800 la.

larger drivers and all.
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QUOTE(chelebin @ Aug 6 2015, 06:23 PM)
which recomend.. r2730 or r2800? i dont really need the bluetooth function..

which sound more detail and staging wide..
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like Quazacolt said R2800

Bigger speakers means bigger potential in this case laugh.gif
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ok thanks for tips.. will get this beast.. biggrin.gif
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i got this beast alr..

first impression..mid as usually edifier did a good job..bass deep n enough for me..not bass lover

treble is weird..i hope the burn in can fixed this..

i want to use SC/DAC..which recommend..since SC no popular anymore..im looking for DAC..im interest with aune t1 mk2..is it worth or just stay with edi dac biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(chelebin @ Sep 12 2015, 11:03 PM)
i got this beast alr..

first impression..mid as usually edifier did a good job..bass deep n enough for me..not bass lover

treble is weird..i hope the burn in can fixed this..

i want to use SC/DAC..which recommend..since SC no popular anymore..im looking for DAC..im interest with aune t1 mk2..is it worth or just stay with edi dac biggrin.gif
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soundcard is still good but you cannot test them. and they're pricy too

just use the stock DAC inside. only buy new DAC to fill your greed
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QUOTE(chelebin @ Sep 12 2015, 10:03 PM)
i got this beast alr..

first impression..mid as usually edifier did a good job..bass deep n enough for me..not bass lover

treble is weird..i hope the burn in can fixed this..

i want to use SC/DAC..which recommend..since SC no popular anymore..im looking for DAC..im interest with aune t1 mk2..is it worth or just stay with edi dac biggrin.gif
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in addition to having the speakers burn/run in (personally im no believer of it but hey lol), consider dialing around the treble/bass knobs on the unit smile.gif
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QUOTE(power911 @ Sep 13 2015, 12:25 AM)
soundcard is still good but you cannot test them. and they're pricy too

just use the stock DAC inside. only buy new DAC to fill your greed
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i cant deal with the DAC on the R2800 (digital in), as with the s530D as well.
it seems that there's still ways to go before edifier DACs can be as good as the mainstream sound cards/DAC.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 14 2015, 05:47 PM)
i cant deal with the DAC on the R2800 (digital in), as with the s530D as well.
it seems that there's still ways to go before edifier DACs can be as good as the mainstream sound cards/DAC.
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I think I'm going deaf tongue.gif

I'm starting to be more tolerant and less picky doh.gif
Well at least it sounded better than stock mobo realtek with less electrical noise.

But yes Edifier still got a long way to go rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(power911 @ Sep 16 2015, 11:59 PM)
I think I'm going deaf tongue.gif

I'm starting to be more tolerant and less picky doh.gif
Well at least it sounded better than stock mobo realtek with less electrical noise.

But yes Edifier still got a long way to go rolleyes.gif
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in fact i had a hard time trying to find creative onboard sound cards (i prefer onboard since i got an external DAC if i wanted some serious listening lol)... even asus that have their xonar and what not? are using realtek even on their highend motherboards :/
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Just a quick question. Is there any place where i can audition this beast?
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if you can accommodate the space, easily 2800 la.

larger drivers and all.
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Nice idea combining the r280 with c3.

Do you guys think combining r1800 with c2x or c3x will be good?
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Nice idea combining the r280 with c3.

Do you guys think combining r1800 with c2x or c3x will be good?
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thanks.
the idea comes from the C3 being piss poor on mids, while the R2800 is all about that (being a 2.0 and all.)
so voila, let them compliment each other smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 13 2015, 10:16 AM)
thanks.
the idea comes from the C3 being piss poor on mids, while the R2800 is all about that (being a 2.0 and all.)
so voila, let them compliment each other smile.gif
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I read power 11 review on c2x, milo can sound on the mids worse than c3x.

Really tempted to get the r2800 but afraid that it needs to be to loud too sound good. But r1800t3 only got two drivers, mids may not sound as good as r280 or r2730db which has the drivers each.
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I read power 11 review on c2x,  milo can sound on the mids worse than c3x.

Really tempted to get the r2800 but afraid that it needs to be to loud too sound good.  But r1800t3 only got two drivers,  mids may not sound as good as r280 or r2730db which has the drivers each.
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thats a common misconception for hifi requires playback to be loud.
while it is certain better to play loud (of course not excessively loud) as almost all hifi equipment CAN cater (not so much they need to be loud) and most people these days have a preference towards loudness (eg: a modern pop/rock song for example) which sparked a loudness war many years back.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 13 2015, 10:55 AM)
thats a common misconception for hifi requires playback to be loud.
while it is certain better to play loud (of course not excessively loud) as almost all hifi equipment CAN cater (not so much they need to be loud) and most people these days have a preference towards loudness (eg: a modern pop/rock song for example) which sparked a loudness war many years back.
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So you say it all sounds good if you don't turn it to loud because you are living in terrace house with people nearby?


Some people say certain speaker are lazy in the sense that it need to reach certain loudness level to start to sounds good while other already sounds goods at low volume.
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QUOTE(am3 @ Oct 13 2015, 11:02 AM)
So you say it all sounds good if you don't turn it to loud because you are living in terrace house with people nearby?
Some people say certain speaker are lazy in the sense that it need to reach certain loudness level to start to sounds good while other already sounds goods at low volume.
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i do blast my speakers on occasion so long it isnt too late night/inconvenient hours.

however even without doing so it still sounds way better than the C3 at much softer volume smile.gif
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i cant deal with the DAC on the R2800 (digital in), as with the s530D as well.
it seems that there's still ways to go before edifier DACs can be as good as the mainstream sound cards/DAC.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 13 2015, 10:55 AM)
thats a common misconception for hifi requires playback to be loud.
while it is certain better to play loud (of course not excessively loud) as almost all hifi equipment CAN cater (not so much they need to be loud) and most people these days have a preference towards loudness (eg: a modern pop/rock song for example) which sparked a loudness war many years back.
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I do think they need to be loud somewhat in order to reach the ideal listening volume. OK, perhaps my ears are getting worse, but I do always had my S2000 at 60-70% at least and my wife will nag. Thats why I moved them downstair.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 13 2015, 11:21 AM)
i do blast my speakers on occasion so long it isnt too late night/inconvenient hours.

however even without doing so it still sounds way better than the C3 at much softer volume smile.gif
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C3x seems overpriced and not that popular compared to c3 though.

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 17 2015, 10:44 PM)
I do think they need to be loud somewhat in order to reach the ideal listening volume. OK, perhaps my ears are getting worse, but I do always had my S2000 at 60-70% at least and my wife will nag. Thats why I moved them downstair.
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Do s2000 have back bass reflex port? If so do you need to put it some distance from the wall?
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C3x seems overpriced and not that popular compared to c3 though.
Do s2000 have back bass reflex port?  If so do you need to put it some distance from the wall?
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No. It's front. There's no need for a back port imo.
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I see. The new not yet in Malaysia s1000 is back firing though. Like r200db.


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I see.  The new not yet in Malaysia s1000 is back firing though. Like r200db.
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Got them. Just nice for kpop. Not so nice for movies and live concert

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 18 2015, 02:01 AM)
Yeah, different approach. I do wonder though if it would made huge difference.
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A few reasons they rear fire:
-Front baffle is too small to fit port. (I think this applies to the R200DB and S1000)
-Port is large and midrange is audible through the port. (Internal foam lining can take care most of the problem)
-Undersized port (so they can make it short enough to fit) so there's chuffing.
-Purposely done for bass reinforcement by rear wall.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 23 2015, 08:30 AM)
Got them. Just nice for kpop. Not so nice for movies and live concert

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How about other kind of music? Nice too? D

How is the mids of this speaker?


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How about other kind of music? Nice too? D

How is the mids of this speaker?
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Erm, how to say... for the price, I think maybe its OK... compared to S2000, where's the mid? LOL

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Erm, how to say... for the price, I think maybe its OK... compared to S2000, where's the mid? LOL
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A few reasons they rear fire:
-Front baffle is too small to fit port. (I think this applies to the R200DB and S1000)
-Port is large and midrange is audible through the port. (Internal foam lining can take care most of the problem)
-Undersized port (so they can make it short enough to fit) so there's chuffing.
-Purposely done for bass reinforcement by rear wall.
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I google on this matter and it seem like there would be no difference between both. Like you said, some said back firing is to prevent the leaking midrange from being audible. Some said front port is to make it wall mount friendly. Most agreed there will be nothing major.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 23 2015, 01:15 PM)
I google on this matter and it seem like there would be no difference between both. Like you said, some said back firing is to prevent the leaking midrange from being audible. Some said front port is to make it wall mount friendly.  Most agreed there will be nothing major.
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I've done experiments on my own with a 5-inch and 2-inch. With the smaller 2-inch driver it's difficult to pin-point. With the larger 5-inch though with a 2-inch and 8.5cm ports, I prefer that to be facing away from me in both cases.

This is only applicable for nearfield. I built an MLTL tower with the 5-inch, had the port at the bottom (naturally) and facing back. Now I am building a pair that is shorter but deeper, with a much smaller port, and forward firing. Because of the foam lining and stuffing in them, other frequencies are whisper quiet and muffled in both cases (even more so in this new one). So the rear firing port is impractical and unnecessary in this case.

Front firing ports are FAR more practical though since you don't have to worry about it being too close to the back wall.

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Sep 19 2015, 10:51 AM)
You can audit it @ Viewnet or Sri Com in Low Yat Plaza.
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Any chance you know what is the DAC inside the R2800?
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Tonight finally have some time to move the whole R2800 to my living room and compare a bit with S2000. Both are connected to Xonar Essence ST via RCA.

I think R2800 is an interesting speaker but not without its weakness. First of all, when you turn it on, you will notice the brightness of the whole setup and slightly sparkle. Personally I find it easier on my ears if I reduced the treble by -1.5. Even with this setting, it still prone to sibilant at times. This minus treble sounds great especially with noisy Kpop.

The vocals were mostly fine (somewhat sibilant at times like I pointed out) but if you were to play strong vocals like Cai Qing, I think Im not impressed with it. The vocals are clear, no doubt, but not refined and somewhat harsh. Again, this is only where there's no music to cover up for the vocals performance. Another point worth noting is that sometimes the vocals only songs tend to have slight echo effect, but somehow I find it end abruptly with R2800. I need to retest this in order to verify that my ears are not playing games with me.

Next up would be the problem with the imaging itself. Personally I find it kinda annoying like it has a couple sweet spot where you get the maximum listening experience. I feel that your ears had to be at the speaker level in order to get the best sound out of it. This was not a problem with S2000 and I can move around a lot and still get the same sound but not so with R2800. Seated within 3-4feet away or with your back facing the wall or just lying flat on the floor seem to be the best position to enjoy R2800.

I may have sounded a bit negative but its hard to say whether I like it or not. I started picking up on kpop recently and for this purpose, it has exceeded my expectations (despite the setbacks). As for other types of music, I think Chinese songs fared the worse because it certainly lacked the imaging aspect, not to mention vocals were not as smooth and soothing as S2000. There is one more thing that I would like to point out here is that some songs may even show why R2800 power distribution between its driver are somewhat imbalanced. Noticed that the mid is only 18W with another 16W for the tweeter. For some recordings/movies with weak recording volume, even after cranking all the way to the max, it still sound too weak. However the bass does not suffer from the problem and began over powering the whole sound system. Of course having said so much, one of my major complaint with S2000 has been the lack of thumping bass when it matters.

I got mine off Lazada with some discount which bring the total cost of ownership to RM670 which is much cheaper than the retail price. For this pricing, I find it hard to suggest another alternative which is why I may still keep it. I would have wanted to go for the S730 but the pricing is really too high for me to have a go.

Since Im at it, Im gonna add this comment too since I tested it a little bit just now. I think that going with digital connection may not be as bad as I thought it would be. Prior to this, I was using my Sound Blaster Digital Music modded with LME49720 opamp. I find the bass is loose but in return I get the airy wide soundstage. However going digital seem to tighten up the bass slightly (even reduce bass reverberation). Of course there is some compromise as it sounds thin, even though the vocals is clear (reduced sibilant)

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Nice review. Now I'm not sure what speaker to buy. R2800 got nice price. Among china manufactured speaker, it is good and reliable.


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yea..treble a bit wierd.. u need to add more bass knop for balance listening..if u put both equal..treble is win biggrin.gif

also i agree with u when watch video..sound lack power..

but the most i like is no ear fatigue biggrin.gif


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possible r2800 add seperate subwoofer?

active or passive for the best?


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QUOTE(chelebin @ Oct 29 2015, 02:17 PM)
possible r2800 add seperate subwoofer?

active or passive for the best?
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there is no sub out on the R2800 so you got to be creative

Either buy a sub with stereo out + volume adjustments or just a y splitter to both sub and R2800

Controlling volume would be confusing though
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QUOTE(power911 @ Oct 29 2015, 01:35 PM)
there is no sub out on the R2800 so you got to be creative

Either buy a sub with stereo out + volume adjustments or just a y splitter to both sub and R2800

Controlling volume would be confusing though
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No no no...

Why would you pair a sub with one that already had a sub in the first place?
I would say that its better to buy something else with a PROPER sub in the first place. Besides if am3 is going to use it for movies, then all the reason to look somewhere else. Personally I wouldnt not recommend Studio 8 (possibly lower range Studio as well). It just happened that Im suddenly into KPOP and found S2000 lacking bass to really enjoy it. Overall, if you are going to pay over RM700, I bet there's a lot more choices now.

Even Microlabs also coming in nowadays. Preorder price looks good. I think I had said a number of times that I personally find Edifier slacking off after S2000. I havent heard anything nice from them since.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 29 2015, 06:20 PM)
No no no...

Why would you pair a sub with one that already had a sub in the first place?
I would say that its better to buy something else with a PROPER sub in the first place. Besides if am3 is going to use it for movies, then all the reason to look somewhere else. Personally I wouldnt not recommend Studio 8 (possibly lower range Studio as well). It just happened that Im suddenly into KPOP and found S2000 lacking bass to really enjoy it. Overall, if you are going to pay over RM700, I bet there's a lot more choices now.

Even Microlabs also coming in nowadays. Preorder price looks good. I think I had said a number of times that I personally find Edifier slacking off after S2000. I havent heard anything nice from them since.
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I have yet to hear any computer multimedia speaker subwoofers that could perform sub bass though. hmm.gif

Maybe the new Edifier S760D could do it but dedicated subs still sounds more cinematic punch in everything than any multimedia speakers.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 23 2015, 09:01 PM)
Edifier,

Any chance you know what is the DAC inside the R2800?
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R2800 used AKM AK4117 Low Power 192kHz Digital Audio Receiver.
Bro, i think your ear already used to S2000's sq, the only speaker can solve your problem now is S1000DB smile.gif.
S1000DB sample just reached my office, try it and love the sound imaging it produce.


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QUOTE(Edifier @ Oct 30 2015, 11:07 AM)
R2800 used AKM AK4117 Low Power 192kHz Digital Audio Receiver.
Bro, i think your ear already used to S2000's sq, the only speaker can solve your problem now is S1000DB smile.gif.
S1000DB sample just reached my office, try it and love the sound imaging it produce.
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Your office is in Taman Ehsan??

I live nearby only.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Oct 30 2015, 11:42 AM)
Your office is in Taman Ehsan??

I live nearby only.
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My office already shifted to Sunday Damansara.

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Some updates from R2800...

Today I whipped out my old forgotten X-Fi Xtreme Music which I bought quite a long time ago. It was slightly modded too (some caps replaced, opamp changed to AD8066).

I remembered it was slightly darker signature plus smaller soundstage when compared to Xonar Essence ST which I used earlier to test the R2800. True enough, it was a surprise finding that the darker signature tamed the excessive highs for R2800. Now I can leave treble at 0 (was at -1.5) and still feeling easy on my ears. The bass was a little bit toned down which left me with no choice but to increase it slightly to 3.5 (compared to 2 previously).

The whole setup now is much more pleasing to listen without getting annoyed. It did change the sound a bit, from being upfront to slightly laid back (almost V shaped like).

If I were to think of a redo the rating again, I think I will rate it slightly higher now, even though it took a step back in term of details. The reduction in sibilant is really day and night when compared between Xonar Essence, Digital Music SX to Xtreme Music. The only similarity between Xonar and SX were that both had the LME49720 opamp. I wonder if that alone is being responsible for the overly bright sound in the first place. Of course Xonar sounded brilliant with S2000 but I didnt expect that its the opposite for R2800.

Definitely liking it even more now... you can say it sounds a bit towards multimedia'ish now but its definitely more enjoyable. I can even increase the treble slightly if I want to.
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Have you tried directly with laptop? Certain laptop is a warming source. Some people who complained that their ath msr7 headphone too bright and sibilant find that it sound better from the humble laptop.

Maybe because of the Realtek chips I don't know.
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Anyone can compare the S1000DB - R28000? Sizes and bluetooth shenanigans aside, I just want to know in terms of sound quality which will prevail. I'm contemplating whether I should spend the extra RM300 to get the S1000DB or a R28000 + DAC (ifi NaNo iDSD) for the same price RM1000.
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Time to revive this thread.  sweat.gif
Anyone can compare the S1000DB - R28000? Sizes and bluetooth shenanigans aside, I just want to know in terms of sound quality which will prevail. I'm contemplating whether I should spend the extra RM300 to get the S1000DB or a R28000 + DAC (ifi NaNo iDSD) for the same price RM1000.
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QUOTE(asch901 @ Feb 3 2016, 03:49 AM)
Time to revive this thread.  sweat.gif
Anyone can compare the S1000DB - R28000? Sizes and bluetooth shenanigans aside, I just want to know in terms of sound quality which will prevail. I'm contemplating whether I should spend the extra RM300 to get the S1000DB or a R28000 + DAC (ifi NaNo iDSD) for the same price RM1000.
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S1000DB is more natural to listen to. R2800 is a studio speaker and it may sound boring with its very flat sound sweat.gif

Not to say R2800 is bad but it is not as interesting as S1000DB
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sorry to be a jackass here.. but im selling mine smile.gif
anyone interested? RM500 include box n remote.. condition 97% almost new.
reason? too many speaker
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Just bought this speaker and found out noticeable hiss noise when I pause the music and quite annoying when listening at quiet environment..

Anyway to fix this? I tried another plug, remove all input cable also same..
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QUOTE(billy.tanudjaja @ Sep 15 2016, 11:33 PM)
Just bought this speaker and found out noticeable hiss noise when I pause the music and quite annoying when listening at quiet environment..

Anyway to fix this? I tried another plug, remove all input cable also same..
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you might need a volt stabilizer or isolator to cut down the hiss

it may help a little but not all the time.

if possible try another plug point but I doubt that would help and it won't be practical
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post Sep 15 2016, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Sep 15 2016, 10:56 PM)
you might need a volt stabilizer or isolator to cut down the hiss

it may help a little but not all the time.

if possible try another plug point but I doubt that would help and it won't be practical
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I'm using Belkin surge protector with noise filter but not effect too much. I think the electricity in my condo is not so good, happened last time with my AV devices, some devices are very sensitive..
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post Sep 16 2016, 05:57 AM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Sep 15 2016, 10:56 PM)
you might need a volt stabilizer or isolator to cut down the hiss

it may help a little but not all the time.

if possible try another plug point but I doubt that would help and it won't be practical
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I saw your review at the first page and you said this speaker has noticeable hiss but when you play the music barely noticeable..
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post Sep 16 2016, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(billy.tanudjaja @ Sep 15 2016, 11:28 PM)
I'm using Belkin surge protector with noise filter but not effect too much. I think the electricity in my condo is not so good, happened last time with my AV devices, some devices are very sensitive..
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not related to inlet power. whatever hiss is the shielding of circuit board. do u plan to open up?

use aluminium foil stick to card board, use short wire to ground the foil on pcb.
then stick at a place to isolate power transformer. dont let any chance touching components else it burn away.

credits to.... altec lansing engineers.

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post Sep 17 2016, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Sep 16 2016, 08:28 AM)
not related to inlet power. whatever hiss is the shielding of circuit board. do u plan to open up?

use aluminium foil stick to card board, use short wire to ground the foil on pcb.
then stick at a place to isolate power transformer. dont let any chance touching components else it burn away.

credits to.... altec lansing engineers.
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Have u tried with R2800? Which board u talking about? If u don't mind can u pls show me also how to do?
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QUOTE(billy.tanudjaja @ Sep 17 2016, 09:19 PM)
Have u tried with R2800? Which board u talking about? If u don't mind can u pls show me also how to do?
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no try with r28 becos no sponsor.
only 1 pcb i believe.
if u bring it i show how
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post Sep 19 2016, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(billy.tanudjaja @ Sep 15 2016, 10:33 PM)
Just bought this speaker and found out noticeable hiss noise when I pause the music and quite annoying when listening at quiet environment..

Anyway to fix this? I tried another plug, remove all input cable also same..
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Hi,

Can you try to connect it to another source?
Sometime the noise is cause by the PC not the power source.
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post Sep 19 2016, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Sep 19 2016, 10:48 AM)
Hi,

Can you try to connect it to another source?
Sometime the noise is cause by the PC not the power source.
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I tried already, even no source plugged also still can hear the hiss.
I think the hiss is character of class D amplifier, not because of faulty speaker. cry.gif

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post Sep 20 2016, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(billy.tanudjaja @ Sep 19 2016, 12:54 PM)
I tried already, even no source plugged also still can hear the hiss.
I think the hiss is character of class D amplifier, not because of faulty speaker.  cry.gif
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Noted, will check with Edifier R&D again.
We already sold a lot of R2800 and this is the first time we received loud hiss problem, can you send the speaker to our service centre? suspect one of the IC not working properly.

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With no due respect, but you lost the credibility to speakers review without owning some decent DAC and amplifier.

Without good DAC and amplifier, you didn't explore the potential of the speakers. Ended up just written some good words to it because you received a pair of free speakers.
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Double post

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QUOTE(zoozooka @ Sep 20 2016, 03:25 PM)
With no due respect, but you lost the credibility to speakers review without owning some decent DAC and amplifier.

Without good DAC and amplifier, you didn't explore the potential of the speakers. Ended up just written some good words to it because you received a pair of free speakers.
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I know this is the audiophile sub forum, but no need to be so snob bro
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QUOTE(zoozooka @ Sep 20 2016, 04:25 PM)
With no due respect, but you lost the credibility to speakers review without owning some decent DAC and amplifier.

Without good DAC and amplifier, you didn't explore the potential of the speakers. Ended up just written some good words to it because you received a pair of free speakers.
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wouldn't really call it free because I had to return every speaker I review from Edifier.


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post Oct 17 2016, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Sep 20 2016, 07:40 AM)
Noted, will check with Edifier R&D again.
We already sold a lot of R2800 and this is the first time we received loud hiss problem, can you send the speaker to our service centre? suspect one of the IC not working properly.
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I was curious last week I made a visit to my friend house, he own studio speakers also, Yamaha with active class D amplifier and the price is more expensive than R2800, they produce the hiss also! Actually something like slight hiss but last time for me was so annoying (my Swans speakers didn't produce any hiss I think because of different amplifier class).

Anyway, after a month using and break in, the sound is so different especially the high frequency from the tweeter. I pair the speakers with tube DAC also to make the mid a bit warmer.
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post Oct 18 2016, 09:53 AM

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I own the smaller sibling Studio 7, and I haven't noticed any hissing. Maybe my room isn't quiet enough to notice any.
If it was hissing while plugged in, it could've been because of RCA connection and not balanced XLR, but since you said it hissed even without being plugged in then it could be something else.

However, there is a certain noise level every amplifier produce; some higher while some lower. So we're playing with noise range here.

I'm just making a guess here, maybe your power line is noisy? If you can find a friend who owns a power conditioner like the Weiduka or Bada, maybe you can borrow it for a while to test.
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QUOTE(penmarker @ Oct 18 2016, 09:53 AM)
I own the smaller sibling Studio 7, and I haven't noticed any hissing. Maybe my room isn't quiet enough to notice any.
If it was hissing while plugged in, it could've been because of RCA connection and not balanced XLR, but since you said it hissed even without being plugged in then it could be something else.

However, there is a certain noise level every amplifier produce; some higher while some lower. So we're playing with noise range here.

I'm just making a guess here, maybe your power line is noisy? If you can find a friend who owns a power conditioner like the Weiduka or Bada, maybe you can borrow it for a while to test.
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Thanks for the suggestions.

The noise only noticeable if u stick your ear very close to the tweeter and none of my friends also using the conditioner so I can't borrow. But I'm sure not because of the powerline noise as none of my another speakers are making something like noise sound.

Nevermind, I'm happy and satisfied with this speakers right now and can live with it. 😉
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Hello,
I have had those speakers for two weeks so far and I'm intrested if anybody has such a strange feature - 11-12 step in volume control is like skipping some of the volume levels. Happens on both optical/analog when using remote or volume control on speaker.

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satisfied this speaker..almost used ard 2years i guess..thinking too upgrade some cable speaker or power cable for this speaker..is it worthed? lol

but hate that speaker cable..its connect inside the board
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QUOTE(chelebin @ May 8 2017, 04:01 PM)
satisfied this speaker..almost used ard 2years i guess..thinking too upgrade some cable speaker or power cable for this speaker..is it worthed? lol

but hate that speaker cable..its connect inside the board
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I don't think its worth it to upgrade the cables. You will have to open them and rewire and that just seems like too much work. Upgrading speakers or getting separates might be better.
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so big ah this speaker
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 3 2019, 05:24 PM)
so big ah this speaker
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Yes, 3 way speaker with 8" woofer driver.

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post Jan 4 2019, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Jan 4 2019, 11:38 AM)
Yes, 3 way speaker with 8" woofer driver.
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any possibility of this beast coming back?
or maybe any new 2.0 with a huge form factor?
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QUOTE(power911 @ Jan 4 2019, 09:45 PM)
any possibility of this beast coming back?
or maybe any new 2.0 with a huge form factor?
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We might bring in new R2750DB.

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Jan 5 2019, 11:40 AM)
We might bring in new R2750DB.

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Jan 5 2019, 10:40 AM)
We might bring in new R2750DB.

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When want to bring in and what's the price range.
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QUOTE(xenith @ Mar 10 2019, 05:42 AM)
When want to bring in and what's the price range.
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Around April or May.
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QUOTE(Edifier @ Jan 5 2019, 10:40 AM)
We might bring in new R2750DB.
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Successor R2850DB is back! wub.gif

my target 2022 or so, hopefully got good sales/pricing and the speaker is still selling and not discontinued so soon tongue.gif
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Any review or user experience on the r2850db?

 

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