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post Oct 18 2013, 07:39 AM, updated 6y ago

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Can anybody call Dell 1800 88 2888 to find out the price of the 512GB SSD config? Overseas atm, number doesn't work for me.

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post Oct 18 2013, 09:08 AM

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post Oct 18 2013, 09:35 AM

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talk to their sales agents, price will be updated and can be ordered via dell onlne website around November rclxms.gif

i5 costs around near 3.5K to 4K; i7 costs around 4.5k near 5K thumbup.gif

seems like they gonna tackle down Apple Macbook biggrin.gif cool2.gif

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post Oct 18 2013, 09:39 AM

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15.6 inch LED Backlit Touch Display with Truelife and QHD+ resolution (3200 x 1880)
Wow is it true??

Even now I'm using 1080p resolution make my eyes need to stress out focus on word haha it getting small..and now 3200x1880 resolution on 15.6" ermhhh cannot imagine that lor..
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post Oct 18 2013, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(KyriosxX @ Oct 18 2013, 09:35 AM)
talk to their sales agents, price will be updated and can be ordered via dell onlne website around November  rclxms.gif

i5 costs around near 3.5K to 4K; i7 costs around 4.5k near 5K  thumbup.gif

seems like they gonna tackle down Apple Macbook biggrin.gif  cool2.gif
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yeap mosty ultrabook now seem to take down macbook.. haha
btw this design already hit my heart lor..so pretty wub.gif

unfortunately I'm not fan of ultrabook haha..
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post Oct 18 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Abk92 @ Oct 18 2013, 09:42 AM)
yeap mosty ultrabook now seem to take down macbook.. haha
btw this design already hit my heart lor..so pretty  wub.gif

unfortunately I'm not fan of ultrabook haha..
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seems like the design is almoz the same as the previous batch, no? blink.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 10:01 AM

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window 8 must have touch,otherwise it useless
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post Oct 18 2013, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Abk92 @ Oct 18 2013, 09:39 AM)
15.6 inch LED Backlit Touch Display with Truelife and QHD+ resolution (3200 x 1880)
Wow is it true??

Even now I'm using 1080p resolution make my eyes need to stress out focus on word haha it getting small..and now 3200x1880 resolution on 15.6" ermhhh cannot imagine that lor..
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User don't display at that re-solution smile.gif
Suppose user select 1600x900 (HD+) (which is that QHD / 2 ), the screen will look very nice as it has more "pixels" to take care of that resolution.
(just like the MacBook Retina display, it support 2880x1800, but I doubt anyone actually running it at that resolution smile.gif )

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post Oct 18 2013, 10:42 AM

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btw guys, if u want to find out more about the laptop. here's an alternative link for your reference biggrin.gif

http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-s...13-refresh.html
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post Oct 18 2013, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(myotgo @ Oct 18 2013, 10:01 AM)
window 8 must have touch,otherwise it useless
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W8 is more optimized for touch~
But touchscreen doesn't work that well for normal (non-convertible) notebooks sad.gif

QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Oct 18 2013, 10:35 AM)
User don't display at that re-solution smile.gif
Suppose user select 1600x900 (HD+) (which is that QHD / 2 ), the screen will look very nice as it has more "pixels" to take care of that resolution.
(just like the MacBook Retina display, it support 2880x1800, but I doubt anyone actually running it at that resolution smile.gif )
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True true lol
FHD is actually good enough haha~
I have to say this XPS15 is really tempting lol sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 12:04 PM

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the price is out guys !! rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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http://www.dell.com/my/p/xps-15-9530/pd?c=my&l=en&s=dhs
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post Oct 18 2013, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(KyriosxX @ Oct 18 2013, 09:35 AM)
talk to their sales agents, price will be updated and can be ordered via dell onlne website around November  rclxms.gif

i5 costs around near 3.5K to 4K; i7 costs around 4.5k near 5K  thumbup.gif

seems like they gonna tackle down Apple Macbook biggrin.gif  cool2.gif
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u believed ah? that low price for i7. I guess now the price out you can see.

no SSD though, previously stated would have

QUOTE(Abk92 @ Oct 18 2013, 09:39 AM)
15.6 inch LED Backlit Touch Display with Truelife and QHD+ resolution (3200 x 1880)
Wow is it true??

Even now I'm using 1080p resolution make my eyes need to stress out focus on word haha it getting small..and now 3200x1880 resolution on 15.6" ermhhh cannot imagine that lor..
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typo from Dell, actually 3200x1800 like someone pointed out
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post Oct 18 2013, 12:30 PM

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lol 5k for the lowest specs.
Nvm...I'll just go for the 7000 series then okay.jpg
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post Oct 18 2013, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Ikmal91 @ Oct 18 2013, 12:30 PM)
lol 5k for the lowest specs.
Nvm...I'll just go for the 7000 series then okay.jpg
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Inspiron 15 7000, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + (1366x768; Touch) @RM2899[2.6kg], 6GB, 750GB(5400rpm), W8SL, backlit keyboard, 58Whr
Inspiron 15 7000, i7-4500U + Nvidia GT750M (GDDR5) + (1920x1080; Touch)@RM3599[2.6kg], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm), W8SL, backlit keyboard, 58Whr

XPS 15, i5-4200H + Intel HD 4400 + (1920x1080; Touch)@RM4999 [2.0kg], 8GB, 32GB mSATA + 500GB(5400rpm), W8.1SL, backlit keyboard, 61Whr
XPS 15, i7-4202HQ + GT750M (GDDR5) + (3200x1800; Touch)@RM6299 [2.0kg], 16GB, 32GB mSATA + 1TB (5400rpm), W8.1SL, backlit keyboard, 61Whr

weight is a consideration (2kg vs 2.6kg). XPS 15 has carbon fibre base, more solid and light.
silicon palm rest (more comfy). AC wireless (future proof).
Also has the 32GB mSATA (actually quite cheap sweat.gif ), which should make it more responsive (but putting a 256G SATA SSD in Inspiron 15 7000 is better laugh.gif )
screen has better resolution (for comparative CPU).
More powerful CPU (i5 vs i5, i7 vs i7)

Btw, since Dell Malaysia don't give us the full SSD spec for XPS 15, which come with 91Whr battery, with current spec, the Inspiron 15 7000 will have longer battery runtime.

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post Oct 18 2013, 01:02 PM

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Finally someone created this thread =D
But crap RM6299 for i7 and GT750. That really sucks.
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post Oct 18 2013, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Oct 18 2013, 01:01 PM)
Inspiron 15 7000, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + (1366x768; Touch) @RM2899[2.6kg], 6GB, 750GB(5400rpm), W8SL, backlit keyboard, 58Whr
Inspiron 15 7000, i7-4500U + Nvidia GT750M (GDDR5) + (1920x1080; Touch)@RM3599[2.6kg], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm), W8SL, backlit keyboard, 58Whr

XPS 15, i5-4200H + Intel HD 4400 + (1920x1080; Touch)@RM4999 [2.0kg], 8GB, 32GB mSATA + 500GB(5400rpm), W8.1SL, backlit keyboard, 61Whr
XPS 15, i7-4202HQ + GT750M (GDDR5) + (3200x1800; Touch)@RM6299 [2.0kg], 16GB, 32GB mSATA + 1TB (5400rpm), W8.1SL, backlit keyboard, 61Whr

weight is a consideration (2kg vs 2.6kg). XPS 15 has carbon fibre base, more solid and light.
silicon palm rest (more comfy). AC wireless (future proof).
Also has the 32GB mSATA (actually quite cheap  sweat.gif ), which should make it more responsive (but putting a 256G SATA SSD in Inspiron 15 7000 is better laugh.gif )
screen has better resolution (for comparative CPU).
More powerful CPU (i5 vs i5, i7 vs i7)

Btw, since Dell Malaysia don't give us the full SSD spec for XPS 15, which come with 91Whr battery, with current spec, the Inspiron 15 7000 will have longer battery runtime.
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walao, only 3599 for the same GPU, the only difference is screen and i7. mSata doesnt really count, RAM doesnt really.

slimness and weight is the main thing then
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post Oct 18 2013, 07:38 PM

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better go for apple for that price..lol


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post Oct 18 2013, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 18 2013, 01:34 PM)
walao, only 3599 for the same GPU, the only difference is screen and i7. mSata doesnt really count, RAM doesnt really.

slimness and weight is the main thing then
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Not really. You can get a GT750M laptop at RM3k or cheaper.

Selling points of the XPS 15 is the 1800p display and 2kg weight
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post Oct 18 2013, 07:41 PM

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you wreck me DELL, damn by budgt around RM4k only sad.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 18 2013, 07:40 PM)
Not really. You can get a GT750M laptop at RM3k or cheaper.

Selling points of the XPS 15 is the 1800p display and 2kg weight
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Is high pixel density good for touch?
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 18 2013, 07:53 PM)
Is high pixel density good for touch?
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two unrelated parameters hmm.gif
pixel is from the screen panel. touch is from the capacitive sensors.

Obviously if icons / objects become very small, it become challenging for fingers to touch / select it, but nobody (hopefully) will display 3200x1800 on a 15" screen laugh.gif
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QUOTE(myotgo @ Oct 18 2013, 07:38 PM)
better go for apple for that price..lol
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then wait for MBP Retina to refresh to Haswell smile.gif (should have better idea after 22 Oct)

MacBookPro 15" (Retina Display), i7-3610QM + Nvidia GT650M + 256GB SSD + (2880x1800)@RM6799[2.02kg], 8GB, backlit keyboard, Mac OSX
MacBookPro 15" (Retina Display), i7-3720QM + Nvidia GT650M + 512GB SSD + (2880x1800)@RM8699[2.02kg], 8GB, backlit keyboard, Mac OSX

Don't think new MBP Retina will get lower price than current one laugh.gif

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I don't like it that we don't have a non-touchscreen variant laugh.gif
And at that price it should be powered by full SSDs (at least a 256GB one) sad.gif

Although it does look very classy and nicely designed... for that price range, I think its more worth it to invest money in the Illegear RU-14 Pro with IPS FullHD screen, though its not exactly 15" tongue.gif

Or like what the others have mentioned, MBP 15 or perhaps MBA 15 (if there is one laugh.gif) will be better picks? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 18 2013, 10:47 PM)
I don't like it that we don't have a non-touchscreen variant laugh.gif
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Intel said Haswell ultrabook must have touchscreen laugh.gif

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Oct 19 2013, 07:07 AM)
Intel said Haswell ultrabook must have touchscreen laugh.gif
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and i am going to show my middle fingers back to Intel. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Oct 19 2013, 07:07 AM)
Intel said Haswell ultrabook must have touchscreen laugh.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Oct 19 2013, 08:58 AM)
and i am going to show my middle fingers back to Intel. laugh.gif
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Dafuq? Seriously?! doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
If they wanna make the touchscreen compulsory, at least make them into hybrids ah haha cry.gif cry.gif
Luckily Illegear doesn't offer touchscreen lol, and I hope they never will laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 19 2013, 09:30 AM)
Dafuq? Seriously?!  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
If they wanna make the touchscreen compulsory, at least make them into hybrids ah haha  cry.gif  cry.gif
Luckily Illegear doesn't offer touchscreen lol, and I hope they never will  laugh.gif
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idiocy

in the future, it is better to get something to block the lid if you want to touch so the hinge wont loosen.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Oct 19 2013, 09:40 AM)
idiocy

in the future, it is better to get something to block the lid if you want to touch so the hinge wont loosen.
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Oh man sweat.gif

The "increase in sales of touchscreen models" is because we don't have much alternatives since they already come with it as stock what laugh.gif
Luckily I'm not really into ultrabooks haha laugh.gif
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This is not an Ultrabook, because it's not ULV.

If it were an Ultrabook it would have more hours of battery.

Touch is maybe just because of Windows 8/8.1 - but I haven't used 8/8.1 before, not sure how good.
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 19 2013, 09:56 AM)
This is not an Ultrabook, because it's not ULV.

If it were an Ultrabook it would have more hours of battery.

Touch is maybe just because of Windows 8/8.1 - but I haven't used 8/8.1 before, not sure how good.
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i think they should give a name to high performance ultrabook like laptops.

normally, i would call the XPS 15 ultrabook sized.
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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Oct 18 2013, 10:37 PM)
then wait for MBP Retina to refresh to Haswell smile.gif (should have better idea after 22 Oct)

MacBookPro 15" (Retina Display), i7-3610QM + Nvidia GT650M + 256GB SSD + (2880x1800)@RM6799[2.02kg], 8GB, backlit keyboard, Mac OSX
MacBookPro 15" (Retina Display), i7-3720QM + Nvidia GT650M + 512GB SSD + (2880x1800)@RM8699[2.02kg], 8GB, backlit keyboard, Mac OSX

Don't think new MBP Retina will get lower price than current one laugh.gif
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Huhu the current price will drop, and the new macbook pro haswell will take tha price lol
dont worry the price still same lol laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Superb overpriced laptop IMO with a HDD =.= Should at least give a 128gb SSD variation at such price

QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Oct 19 2013, 07:07 AM)
Intel said Haswell ultrabook must have touchscreen laugh.gif
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Huh is that true? But then can't manufacturers just take off the "ultrabook" branding and continue using ULV processor like apple?


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QUOTE(Kookie10 @ Oct 20 2013, 10:43 AM)
Superb overpriced laptop IMO with a HDD =.= Should at least give a 128gb SSD variation at such price

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Well, I guess that's what happens when a particular notebook is "one of a kind" laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 20 2013, 02:33 PM)
Well, I guess that's what happens when a particular notebook is "one of a kind"  laugh.gif
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It's a one of a kind ridiculous product for that price.

RMBP comes with 256gb ssd so that immediately eliminates rm500-600 price difference. You get 16:10 which is a godsend, MacOS, probably better keyboard+touchpad, design is subjective but most people will definitely opt apple, almost definitely better battery life and most importantly better OS pixel scaling implementation

Youd have to be an idiot to purchase this instead.
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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Oct 21 2013, 08:50 AM)
It's a one of a kind ridiculous product for that price.

RMBP comes with 256gb ssd so that immediately eliminates rm500-600 price difference. You get 16:10 which is a godsend, MacOS, probably better keyboard+touchpad, design is subjective but most people will definitely opt apple, almost definitely better battery life and most importantly better OS pixel scaling implementation

Youd have to be an idiot to purchase this instead.
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Agreed~
The price is too close to a MBP 15 to ignore laugh.gif
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is this considered as an ultrabook?

not sure if i checked the same notebook (looked like it was), but in dell website it said that the weight is 2.6kg. is this correct?
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QUOTE(AdliBot @ Oct 21 2013, 11:41 AM)
is this considered as an ultrabook?

not sure if i checked the same notebook (looked like it was), but in dell website it said that the weight is 2.6kg. is this correct?
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2.01KG
http://www.dell.com/my/p/xps-15-9530/pd?c=...&s=dhs#TechSpec
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QUOTE(AdliBot @ Oct 21 2013, 11:41 AM)
is this considered as an ultrabook?

not sure if i checked the same notebook (looked like it was), but in dell website it said that the weight is 2.6kg. is this correct?
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maybe you got mix up with inspiron 15 7000. that's 2.6 kg.
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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Oct 21 2013, 08:50 AM)
It's a one of a kind ridiculous product for that price.

RMBP comes with 256gb ssd so that immediately eliminates rm500-600 price difference. You get 16:10 which is a godsend, MacOS, probably better keyboard+touchpad, design is subjective but most people will definitely opt apple, almost definitely better battery life and most importantly better OS pixel scaling implementation

Youd have to be an idiot to purchase this instead.
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This is pointless if you can only buy in Malaysia - the XPS 15 is pretty crap. If not, it's actually quite decent if you already had the ability to shop for 15" Retina MBPs.

Malaysia doesn't have the high end version of the XPS 15. The high end version easily beats the cheaper Retina by both specs and price, and the more expensive Retina by price (specs are close). Of course there isn't a Malaysian price to compare with, so we can take the tax-free discounted Australian price vs the Australian prices of the Retina MBP or the Malaysian prices of the same. Because Australian prices are close (without tax, and with discounts).

The high end version claims to have 11 hours battery vs only 7 hours for Retina (http://store.apple.com/my/buy-mac/macbook-pro).

512GB mSATA SSD vs 256 or 512.

2GB DDR5 GT 750M vs 1GB DDR5 GT 650M (not much difference).

3200x1800 IGZO display vs Retina (big difference according to some people).

2.2 GHz vs 2.4 or 2.7 GHz quad core (Haswell for Dell).

Almost the same weight.

Now for the prices. Apple's will set you back RM6799 & RM8699. In Australia it's $2499 & $3199 ($2279 & $2979 with discount, $2072 & $2708 without tax, i.e. RM6527 & RM8530).

Dell's high end version is $2599, cut to $2209 after discount, and $2008 without tax, i.e. RM6326.

Much better specs than the cheaper Apple, slightly better specs but more than RM2000 cheaper than the expensive Apple.

Of course at RM4999 the specs aren't great, and RM6299 doesn't compete with the cheaper Apple. But then, this is the Malaysian market.
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QUOTE(AdliBot @ Oct 21 2013, 11:41 AM)
is this considered as an ultrabook?

not sure if i checked the same notebook (looked like it was), but in dell website it said that the weight is 2.6kg. is this correct?
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Ultrabooks have to be ULV.

This thing is full voltage. Even though it weighs quite little for its size, and is thin like most ultrabooks.

The difference is in the battery. Full voltage battery is shit, ULV can go on for hours like an Apple Macbook.

Most ultrabooks may weight around 1.3-1.4 Kg, and Samsung has a 15" Ultrabook that weighs very little. So you can get big screens and it doesn't have to weigh 2kg or more.

The only impressive thing is that this is full-powered, those very light computers aren't. Extra weight comes from heat management, larger battery, thicker case etc.
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 21 2013, 11:57 PM)
This is pointless if you can only buy in Malaysia - the XPS 15 is pretty crap. If not, it's actually quite decent if you already had the ability to shop for 15" Retina MBPs.

Malaysia doesn't have the high end version of the XPS 15. The high end version easily beats the cheaper Retina by both specs and price, and the more expensive Retina by price (specs are close). Of course there isn't a Malaysian price to compare with, so we can take the tax-free discounted Australian price vs the Australian prices of the Retina MBP or the Malaysian prices of the same. Because Australian prices are close (without tax, and with discounts).

The high end version claims to have 11 hours battery vs only 7 hours for Retina (http://store.apple.com/my/buy-mac/macbook-pro).

512GB mSATA SSD vs 256 or 512.

2GB DDR5 GT 750M vs 1GB DDR5 GT 650M (not much difference).

3200x1800 IGZO display vs Retina (big difference according to some people).

2.2 GHz vs 2.4 or 2.7 GHz quad core (Haswell for Dell).

Almost the same weight.

Now for the prices. Apple's will set you back RM6799 & RM8699. In Australia it's $2499 & $3199 ($2279 & $2979 with discount, $2072 & $2708 without tax, i.e. RM6527 & RM8530).

Dell's high end version is $2599, cut to $2209 after discount, and $2008 without tax, i.e. RM6326.

Much better specs than the cheaper Apple, slightly better specs but more than RM2000 cheaper than the expensive Apple.

Of course at RM4999 the specs aren't great, and RM6299 doesn't compete with the cheaper Apple. But then, this is the Malaysian market.
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You do realize you are comparing a previous gen product dont you?

There are rmbp sellers in garage, check em
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Also, the 11h rated battery life for a full fledged processor? Thats BS. Theyre referring to the ulv processors.

The msata point is only valid if you have a pocket deep enough, and thats not most people
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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Oct 22 2013, 10:34 AM)
You do realize you are comparing a previous gen product dont you?

There are rmbp sellers in garage, check em
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The MBP might be previous gen, but it's the currently available product. Therefore it's being compared to other currently available products.

Why would I need to check rMBP sellers in garage? Maybe they somehow have cheaper prices - not quite sure how that works, but you can get discounted Dell laptops from them too. The basis for comparison is a consistent retail price.

QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Oct 22 2013, 10:37 AM)
Also, the 11h rated battery life for a full fledged processor? Thats BS. Theyre referring to the ulv processors.

The msata point is only valid if you have a pocket deep enough, and thats not most people
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You know they have a 91WHr battery right?

They are not referring to ULVs here, because this laptop doesn't have a ULV version. It's either an error, or a really optimistic estimate. Every manufacturer is optimistic about battery life.

I'm not saying 11 hours is completely reasonable, but get the facts straight.

The point about the mSATA is that if you could already afford a laptop in this class, the mSATA is not an expensive upgrade when you buy the Dell. As opposed to buying an mSATA 512GB retail. As I pointed out, at least in official and student/employee/corporate prices (most people buying these things are students or employees of corporates so that is fair) the Dell easily beats the rMBP by price, so if you're talking about pockets not being deep enough, the rMBP shouldn't even even belong here.
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rMBP 15 2012 is spec with 95 WHr battery.
The XPS 15 with 512GB SSD is spec with 91 WHr battery.

Apple claim MBP 15 2012 has battery run time of ~ 7 hours.
Haswell has really improved battery run time by a LOT.
So I am not surprise that Dell claim the XPS 15 has battery run time of 11 hours.
In fact, I fully expect Apple will have similar or even greater claim of battery run time for rMBP 15 Haswell smile.gif

I think the 512GB mSATA SSD is great.
Looking at what Apple do with MBA, they may probably spec the rMBP with proprietary port Samsung SSD, which has amazing benchmark score. Won't make much difference in normal usage, but significant faster for transferring large files (eg. large video files).

Let see what Apple bring to the table with Haswell MBP. We should know within a week smile.gif

Btw, Fizzy-Fiz, I also fully expect the Haswell MBP will be more expensive than the current MBP icon_rolleyes.gif (hope I am wrong smile.gif )

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Oct 22 2013, 12:14 PM)
rMBP 15 2012 is spec with 95 WHr battery.
The XPS 15 with 512GB SSD is spec with 91 WHr battery.

Apple claim MBP 15 2012 has battery run time of ~ 7 hours.
Haswell has really improved battery run time by a LOT.
So I am not surprise that Dell claim the XPS 15 has battery run time of 11 hours.
In fact, I fully expect Apple will have similar or even greater claim of battery run time for rMBP 15 Haswell smile.gif

I think the 512GB mSATA SSD is great.
Looking at what Apple do with MBA, they may probably spec the rMBP with proprietary port Samsung SSD, which has amazing benchmark score. Won't make much difference in normal usage, but significant faster for transferring large files (eg. large video files).

Let see what Apple bring to the table with Haswell MBP. We should know within a week smile.gif

Btw, Fizzy-Fiz, I also fully expect the Haswell MBP will be more expensive than the current MBP  icon_rolleyes.gif (hope I am wrong smile.gif )
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I hope so too. Been holding my trigger long enough. Anand expected a price drop dt better manufacturing process, thats what kept me going.

@LF

My point with garage sales is the availability, not cheaper prices. Since when do they provide significantly cheaper prices anyway.

Point to point, youd still be foolish to jump early. Of course if youve got the dough then who am i to spar the price-to-benefit issue. Apple will get haswell too, and batterylife-wise they have always been better

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 22 2013, 10:50 AM)
The MBP might be previous gen, but it's the currently available product. Therefore it's being compared to other currently available products.

Why would I need to check rMBP sellers in garage? Maybe they somehow have cheaper prices - not quite sure how that works, but you can get discounted Dell laptops from them too. The basis for comparison is a consistent retail price.
You know they have a 91WHr battery right?

They are not referring to ULVs here, because this laptop doesn't have a ULV version. It's either an error, or a really optimistic estimate. Every manufacturer is optimistic about battery life.

I'm not saying 11 hours is completely reasonable, but get the facts straight.

The point about the mSATA is that if you could already afford a laptop in this class, the mSATA is not an expensive upgrade when you buy the Dell. As opposed to buying an mSATA 512GB retail. As I pointed out, at least in official and student/employee/corporate prices (most people buying these things are students or employees of corporates so that is fair) the Dell easily beats the rMBP by price, so if you're talking about pockets not being deep enough, the rMBP shouldn't even even belong here.
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Wait, how does the dell "easily" beat rmbp by price? Whats the student retail price? Macs also have student pricing, rm200 discount iinm
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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Oct 22 2013, 12:57 PM)
I hope so too. Been holding my trigger long enough. Anand expected  a price drop dt better manufacturing process, thats what kept me going.

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One of the reason for XPS 15 battery run time claim is also due to the IGZO screen which require less power to run (and screen normally is one of the most power consuming component).
rMBP has been rumoured to go with IGZO for a long time as well.

Personally, I think Apple can cut price anytime they want due to the fat profit margin laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-latit...n-m6800-41.html

Here is a test on the IGZO screen used by Dell (it is for Precision, but same panel is used for XPS 15).
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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Oct 22 2013, 01:01 PM)
Wait, how does the dell "easily" beat rmbp by price? Whats the student retail price? Macs also have student pricing, rm200 discount iinm
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Seriously? I showed you the figures. Easily more than RM2000 (after conversion) savings on the top Dell XPS 15 (512GB) vs the top rMBP, and the Dell still outspecs the rMBP.
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 22 2013, 02:20 PM)
Seriously? I showed you the figures. Easily more than RM2000 (after conversion) savings on the top Dell XPS 15 (512GB) vs the top rMBP, and the Dell still outspecs the rMBP.
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i, thought you were referring to local price.
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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Oct 22 2013, 03:04 PM)
i, thought you were referring to local price.
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Well that's the point. That Dell XPS 15 has superior specs and price but isn't sold here.
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Prices are out. Massive cut on the rmbp 13 and slight cut on 15. And finally, no dedicated gpu option.
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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Oct 23 2013, 09:01 AM)
And finally, no dedicated gpu option.
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the RM8499 MBPR 15 has a GT750M.
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the RM8499 MBPR 15 has a GT750M.
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You got that wrong, i rejoiced no dedicated gpu. Dont need it. Irispro should be gt650m level anyway for those who need it.
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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Oct 23 2013, 09:38 AM)
You got that wrong, i rejoiced no dedicated gpu. Dont need it. Irispro should be gt650m level anyway for those who need it.
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Top specced MBP15 has both Iris Pro and GT750m. Only the low specced MBP15 has Iris Pro.
The MBP13, just normal Iris sad.gif
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Dont want 750m anyway :/. I dont game but i do PS.

The 2.3ghz cpu upgrade is cheap though.
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If we slap in a SSD (256GB ~ RM600) into XPS15 (top spec in Malaysia) vs MBP 15

For extra RM400 (6299+600 = 6899, vs 6499), on hardware:
Slight different - screen, CPU.
Better - more RAM, GPU.
Worse - battery runtime.
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some users dont really care about battery life. so the top spec of XPS 15 in malaysia slapped in with a 1TB SSD will be RM200 cheaper than the top MBPR.

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They should have made more options, like i5 and SSD combo, for the XPS 15. And maybe i5 with discrete GPU.

With the options in Malaysia, they're expensive and not very attractive.

Basically if you were in the US, Canada or Australia you could already or almost (small gap) get the 512GB SSD version at the price that Malaysia charges you for the 1TB HDD.

If you went with the low spec model, it's just a fast i5 and basic screen. Why not just buy a cheaper ultrabook with SSD and with a good screen and pretty fast but lower voltage i5/i7?

The mid spec model is very expensive for just the GT 750M which is middle class and as someone pointed out available in many other Dell laptops and competing brands. The screen is a bit special, and a few hundred grams in weight is saved. All for double the price?
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http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Dell-X...k.107485.0.html

review by notebookcheck. This is with mSATA SSD and 91 WHr battery.


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hijack topic awhile since it is quite related I guess in tbe previous replies. is inspiron 15" 7000 a good buy? or should I top up and get a xps 15?


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QUOTE(eddydo @ Dec 17 2013, 03:33 AM)
hijack topic awhile since it is quite related I guess in tbe previous replies.  is inspiron 15" 7000 a good buy? or should I top up and get a xps 15?
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