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freewisefly
post Oct 14 2013, 12:50 AM

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Don't mix insurance with investment. Insurance strictly for protection and investment better let finance institution or banker.

Medical protection must review every 4-6 years to get more comprehensive coverage.

Having company insurance is great. If company medical protection over the limit, who going to settle the bill?

Nobody can predict when they will using the card, and nobody won't get sick once only in their lifespan. It might come early or late or might not come ever. That's why insurance come in.

My advise is surrender if you don't have much money to waste. Surrender if you can find somewhere else can give you better return. Get a new one if you find you might use it before your retirement or no longer attached to existing company or being fired. Company insurance will never enough as most company getting it is dealing with income tax rebate.

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post Oct 15 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Oct 14 2013, 09:49 AM)
is it not a waste to surrender? since it is already going for 8 years.

i just looked at my statement. this r the details
Current investment value: RM7500

Coverage:                    Amount of Benefits

Great protectlink insurance  50,000
waiver of premium DD        1500
waiver of premium tpd        1500
great income rider              120,000
Il health protector              150

So i have been paying rm1500 per yr since 2005... if surrender i will get back the rm7500 rite?
(1500x8yrs) 12,000 paid minus rm7500 cash value = 4500 burnt

I dont mind to surrender the policy as long as there are better plans out there.... how ever if i just continue to keep this card, and have another policy since i want more protection in terms of higher whole life limit and annual limit,  is it worth to do so?
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Check on your chart that which year you are getting total premium paid = non guaranteed cash value (the lowest return). Then check on the cash value at that N year, ask yourself a question, is it worth it on that N year holding such plan down the road compare with the medical cost at 2013.

Try think a bigger picture. Most people out there is a big burden for them for personal insurance package as this cost you a lifetime period compare to house and vehicle loan. Whoever who is under employment, will have less saving due to monthly commitment and inflation.

If you wanta have financial freedom, 1st thing that can do is minimize your commitment and expenses, then you can go to saving and investment. When you try to achieve financial freedom, make sure your protection is sufficient enough not to jeopardize your saving. I don't know your financial background but I hope you can situated yourself in a better position rather than struggling to get yourself protected.

Actually with RM1,500/yr or less can get at least 7 times better protection than your existing one. Where is your point of value?

I won't recommend upgrade as it might end up you are paying minimum of rm200-rm300 per month for the so-so protection.

When come to insurance, do not think of your return. My personal view still the same, insurance is protection and not return. Never think of having a protection with return. This is the wrong concept of finance. I would say is a marketing stretegy which divert attention of you. Across my life, I never met anyone who is happy with ILP product up till today but vise versa. Of course this is strictly my personal view.

Before you make any decision, don't restricted yourself from some comments to explore more options out there. Try get more quotation from any insurance company out there regardless their company brand will help you have a bigger picture and understanding. Even there is some can assist you get free life/36/PA and medical protection.

If you decided to switch, make sure you only surrender after you receiving your protection and after the waiting period. Some provide 30 days waiting period and some 120 days.

If you don't understand or not so clear of what I am trying to say, do pm me for more clarification.
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post Oct 15 2013, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Oct 15 2013, 09:37 PM)
so what you are saying is terminate my current medical card? if i terminate, i believe i will get back rm7500 out of the 12k paid...

and get a better newer medical card?
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You should know what is best for yourself, bro.
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post Oct 17 2013, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(cwsimonho @ Oct 16 2013, 12:30 AM)
Agree on the part where insurance mainly is for protection. Do not think of any return because most of the cash value will be used to pay for higher insurance charges in the future due to increase in age.

Of course traditional plan is way cheaper but don't forget the insurance charges can go up to 10k when you are lots older. Still some find ilp a safer alternative by using the cash value invested. But of course we can't predict what's gonna happen in the future.
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That's why advised to review the insurance charges as per age 60,69,and 79. There are still some insurance company with great plan which is below 5k at age of 80 compare to most ILP which insurance charges are ranging from 8k-20k per year (Not the premium)
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post Oct 17 2013, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Oct 16 2013, 08:01 AM)
What if in ILP we withdraw some portion of the units  and invest in Unit Trust?
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You can withdraw some portion, but later years you will suffer in sufficient cash value to sustain your protection.

 

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