Lol... I think this way... It doesn't really mean paying more equals to better quality especially when the difference is so much. I may spend more to hire an ID that is more in sync with what I want but certainly not twice the price of the average..

I also think that ultimate decision always lie with the owner which will be me and my family. So we got to also do our part to contribute to the final design. So, cost is not the only factor in the final quality.

I believe in moderation p/s: I drive a toyota! haha...

This post has been edited by irenelck: Oct 14 2013, 09:21 PM

Btw... to answer your previous question. The quotations I get are 3.5k, 7k, 9k, 10k, 12k, 16k, 20k, 40k...

Thanks,

If we disregard the RM3.5k and the RM40k as outliers, which they clearly are.

The average becomes Rm12.3k (Rm2.9 /sqft) with a Minimum of Rm7k (RM1.6 / sqft) and max Rm20k (Rm4.6/sqft).

So it would seem that you should be able to easily get what you need for around 10k-16k


I'm also a firm believer in moderation, so my ID budget for 2200sqft is RM6-9k.

Cheers & Goodluck

My experience of engaging an ID, they did not charge me a fee for ID if i opt to engage them as the main con.

Agree with u.... same for me.. for a 1300 sqft condo... i am will to paid max rm 5 k for ID

I am considering that too.. But I am just afraid that since its tied to the main con, I will have lost the power to choose. Does that mean that the price may be higher than if I choose my own contractor? So, I am not sure if in the end this will be more economical or will end up with a higher price to pay...

You never get anything for Free. They are discounting there ID fee and making it back PLUS MORE in the profit from the complete Reno. So it will definitely cost you more since you have no freedom to shop around for the best price.

Of course on the other side of the coin you are getting a complete hands-off service where everything is taken care for you with no stress for you.

Cheers

IMHO，

"Many rumors said that, engaged ID must be expensive" - this is for ancients story.

If you wanted to spend 100k for your home, take out and 5% for your ID. it just RM 5k.

FOR the 95K, I think you will fully utilise it . WHY?

1st,Because ID already take profit on it. So they will bring you more choices. Because no matter which choices it is, they already gain their core profit. Others is a bonus.

2nd,Some ID will teach you a lil bit of cost calculating . So when you know the cost bottom line of the contractor. You can easily gain some discount from them.

Example,

Interior Wall Painting including plastering. Not skim coating.

Materials =10 tins Pentalite RM 90-150 / 5 liter(2 tins per room,4 tins for living hall and kitchen),3 tins Maxilite for Ceiling RM less than RM 80 per tong/ 18L .1 tong patty filla RM 80 also. Totall up RM 2,000 +-(Assume 1500+240+80)
Manpower = 2 foreign worker (2 FW RM 60 each, it takes 5 days.) so is RM 600 *Earliest can be 4 days gao dim.
Overhead =RM 200 for those acc like paint container,roller, brush + petrol.
Profit = RM 1000(35% profit)

So Total Cost here is RM 2,800.00 , Profit RM 1,000,00 . Total Amount would be RM 3,800.00 . Normally market price is around 3800-4500.

If When Invoice out, is RM 4000. and you expect to get 5-10% discount (Remember, if 100k, each contractor discount 10%, already 10k .)

So you already know the cost is 2,800. You direct bargain to him said. RM 3,600,I wanna discount 400. Thats all. So it still within their 30% profit. Both win win situation.


*Please bare in mind, not every interior designer able to help you on this. This require some on site experience and professional skills.
** Some ID more powerful, might teach you better skills to maximise out your budget. I had learn some, that some skills are even more SHOT TO KILL!!!

yea... thats the 3rd category of ID charge... Will they also design furnishing of the space?

of courses.

but still the words, it not a compulsory .

So I assume you charge 5% and does furnishing planning as well?

Yes. This is my practice .

bro interior design is very subjective, as long as u like the designer concept & taste, just negotiate for the best price from him/her and go ahead let him/her to handle. I believe every disigner are diff and price comparison is always no way ending.

they take more than 5%......

Hi again Irenelck,

how did your ID sourcing work out? I'm interested to her your tales of final selection of your ID and the end result.

Cheers

LOL decided to wait... Since my house haven't vp... Sigh... renovation is a big headache.

There is one thing you got to take note, ID who only provide ID service, some of them are really good in drawing but very weak in make the ideal to real, what i mean is, you can get a perfect drawing, but when come to real life, once you ask a contractor to make their ID to real, some of the thing are not "doable" coz those ID may not have a real experiance to study how to make those thing come true, just a silly example, they can draw a pcs of cabinet in the middle of house without touching any ceiling, floor or wall, but this is not able to work in real life (of coz i know none of the designer will do that) or some of the Ideal cost you a huge 1 to make it, eg he is actually proposing a really expensive material to do that thing but you may not know until contractor side.

So, before engage an ID, must knowing them well, not only in term of how good is their drawing and ideal, but also their experience and knowledge of material.

Price for interior designs is really subjective. However, most of the time the younger/inexperience ones will charge cheaper and more established ones will charge more expensive (just like buying a pair of NIKE shoes). However, that doesn't mean the designs from the more established ones suits you. Every designer has their own style. Even in the same designer firm, different designers have different style. So I agree to one of the LYN members who said....choose the style you like most and bargain.

I also agree to eleganz concept who mentioned that some interior designers may design something which is not practical, whether or not they are established. if you are getting the design from a designer and source another contractor to do it, perhaps you can get the contractor to look at the design and tell you upfront if it's not practical, and perhaps you can try to negotiate with your designer to amend.

If you are getting the sub-con from the interior designer, then you would save your headaches as the interior designer is responsible to make his/her drawings to reality.

There is no specific % that an interior designer will earn. So just follow the design style that you like, get that particular designer and try to bargain till your budget.

Good luck!

The question is, how do we know whicih ID syle meet your taste? Is the ID normally show you their idea first or confirm the job (some payment) first?

To me , Normally the designers have thier own styles . Dont engage someone that doesnt suit you style and try to change them. Choose the one that suit your taste by looking at portfolio and if can , the finished works . Normally ideas and layout are free i think . You only pay when they start drawing