i'm an engineer myself and the problem with consultant firm is the bosses knows that these fresh grads are out to learn from them. therefore, they will squeeze your pay and make the full use out of you. sad but true.

as for myself, i'm already in my third year in a consultant firm and my salary sitll doesn't go pass 2.5K. sad...

depends on the feild os specializaion n also where u work small companies 2k n below mnc sum offfer up to 3k++ for fresh grads

still in 3rd year lah bro...IR coming liao...eehheeh

consultant  firms hav low pay tillu get ur Ir mostly 1.8k-2k region
any vacancies in ur comp dualshock?i wanna join also hahha but i fresh grad nia

sure lah...it's a fact to me. associate member? u think so easy meh...as i said i'm in third year only...still long way to go. company? nolah..better keep it secret. else, if someone finds out, i die ...heheheheh

MNC = Multi National Company 

the funny one is when i was the first day in my training.. both my senior told me that i'm in the wrong line! muahahaha.. now they pass the job for me to tell any "newbies" that they're in wrong line! which area u people working now?

yalah can show off, but as you say, if something happened like wat happened in hulu klang, then die lorr...

my advice is, since you're still young, why not go for a try in a consultant firm. that would beef u up with some experience and if you don't like it, you have nothing to lose, just leave and find another...

lol gov red tape sux hahhaa
m & e also need mar
telekom n tnb freaking sienz wait for thier approval once during training my supervisor ask me go tnb office fark them coz so long no reply n the project urgently needed thier approval to go on went up saw them all goin yam cha ask them bout the approval letter they say thier fax machine down  i ask them then y never reply calls they say boss not in so they dunno wat to reply
wah so damn many excuse

lol wan $$$ go MNC comps
minimum u get 2.4k eg.motorola
max i heard 3.2-3.4k eg jaala

lol never kena inspection wif them
dunno
haha
i only know architects n contractors r damn  rich all wear kam lou (rolex) belanja makan also makan mahal one hahaha i like going site meetings hahaha (but as a trainee of coz) as the engineer in charge sumthing goes wrong kena shoot like machine gun hahah

yaya very true...sometimes i see them come to site, a while want drink, a while want cigarettes, awhile this, awhile that...really see them also sienz...

do you all agree that construction is the most "black" line of all?

lolz we same ler my cgpa damn low no mnc wan employ me   
hahaha
u grad mmu?o local unis??heard local unis grad also

i'm from mmu btw

anyways anyone know the pay for tech support engineer?

lolz of coz la if not how to wear kam lou n belanja u eat n also they minimum hav 2 cars 1 car 4wd prado,pajero,hilux the other if not a accord,cefiro,camry is at elast a benz

sigh...being contractor also not easy. always kena from consultant (because i do that to contractor often...hehehehe) once you screw up...

authority see contractor sure happy one cos can yum cha, but see consultant nia, their face also black, cos canot yum cha one....heheheheh

my advise it.. go for your dreams.. dont get "stuck" like us! just read the tucker max's speech http://messageboard.tuckermax.com/showthre...95&page=3&pp=10

i know! its for lawyers.. and lawyers rot in hell.. but its about living your dream. When I am a student, I thought when I work, I'm gonna buy this buy that.. but guess what?! i'm f***ing poorer than being in student time. hehe.

Btw.. jobs as consultick oopps, i mean consultants require constant dealing with authorities too... just as much as achitect do. and I REALLY is a pain in the ass EVERYTIME to meet them, unless they're the pretty clerk there.. IT SUCKS!

wow, you just spell out everything that's in my heart...let everyone knows how poor we are...

not really.. some people still 'wow!'.. think we very horseh! but we our own goes "chiu"! when going to get rich?!