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Engineer's standard salary, you think how much??
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 03:26 PM
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i'm an engineer myself and the problem with consultant firm is the bosses knows that these fresh grads are out to learn from them. therefore, they will squeeze your pay and make the full use out of you. sad but true.
as for myself, i'm already in my third year in a consultant firm and my salary sitll doesn't go pass 2.5K. sad...
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 03:28 PM
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still in 3rd year lah bro...IR coming liao...eehheeh
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(k_kokkhin @ Jun 9 2006, 03:28 PM) sure or not? last time i had training at one of the consultant firm, the salary is ok lo... but if once you are the associate member, ur salary wil shoot up... anywhere, why dun u try sales? mind to tell which company u working in recently? sure lah...it's a fact to me. associate member? u think so easy meh...as i said i'm in third year only...still long way to go. company? nolah..better keep it secret. else, if someone finds out, i die ...heheheheh
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 9 2006, 03:29 PM) consultant firms hav low pay tillu get ur Ir mostly 1.8k-2k region any vacancies in ur comp dualshock?i wanna join also hahha but i fresh grad nia so far i didn't hear any news from my boss whether he wants to employ ppl or not. you know lah...nowadays not much project, have to cut cost mah...maximise your worker...
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 9 2006, 03:33 PM) dual u working in a M& E or a civil consulting firm?? mine is C&S
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(k_kokkhin @ Jun 9 2006, 03:33 PM) maybe u can tell me personally by senidng me message ur company name... then i can recommend some better one to u...  nvm it's ok. thanks for the help though. i still have lots to learn from this company. although the pay is little, but i do learn alot. seriously...
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 9 2006, 03:37 PM) haha i'd say gain xp in the consulting field 1st know more ppl then can jump to sales if u dun like consulting consulting onc eu get ur Ir can open own liao hahaha sales as i said earlier unless u r damn good in selling if not like my fren everymonth need find excuse to cover up hahaha.1.8k good lo my palce there 1.6k after prob 1.8k damn kiam siap i hav fren working in both fields at hometown i can get a job there but wanna try out the working life here b going back hehe lol poor u ahah are you an engineer as well?
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(aLittleMisfit @ Jun 9 2006, 03:39 PM) me also c&s. really depressing! pay like sh*t. TOO much liability and TOO LITTLE pay! need to offset my depression with my blogs sigh...wat to do. i don't know about other ppl but us, as engineer, we have BIG responsibility and paid in NUTS. sighhhh...why this line in the first place?
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 9 2006, 03:42 PM) yeah jus grad but i had my training in a m & e firm yup gain lotz of knowladge from tat training so kind of hoping to join the consutling field n not others  ur Ir getting already? o stll need another year? from wat i inquired 3-4 years ehhehe buck up  still need one more year...hopefully by then, pay will be good...
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 9 2006, 03:47 PM) lol after tat u can start showing off ur signature hahahaha but if the building falls down get ready to be shot hahahha  yalah can show off, but as you say, if something happened like wat happened in hulu klang, then die lorr...
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 9 2006, 03:50 PM) lolz me too  the fella say i studied the wrong course haha asked me to take arcitechture if i wanted to get rich in the construction feild hahaha...true true...but architecture hoh, you have to deal with all the authorities, tht one i hate the most...bunch of morons sitting in the office doing nothing but chit chatting... hey, are we going off topic here?hehehe...
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(k_kokkhin @ Jun 9 2006, 03:55 PM) yeah lo, my 1st day of training also same... they just said "god bless you" haha... then i thought just blessing... but who knows it was a begin of nightmare... 3 months, never eat, sleep, play, properly one.. i m going to grad soon... now looking for jobs, either sales or consultant... <----- advices needed...  my advice is, since you're still young, why not go for a try in a consultant firm. that would beef u up with some experience and if you don't like it, you have nothing to lose, just leave and find another...
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(k_kokkhin @ Jun 9 2006, 03:57 PM) you are right, dual_shock.... haha, if the building collapsed, u will be jailed...wash ur back side, and sit inside like a bird in a cage for years.... or pay money until you bankrupt... pity also... engineer nowaadys not like last time anymore.. ya ya, but i do have to say that last time, engineers can be very powerful but now, they just have to work to the demand and leisure of the clients. sighh
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(k_kokkhin @ Jun 9 2006, 04:03 PM) this is so called authority ma... if u spend them 'yum cha', u will get approval very soon... pandai pandai lo... i like thier 'show' when site inspection.... haha...can give them oscar award.... they can act super well.... very serious... but, 'yum cha' a lot also... yaya very true...sometimes i see them come to site, a while want drink, a while want cigarettes, awhile this, awhile that...really see them also sienz... do you all agree that construction is the most "black" line of all?
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 9 2006, 04:06 PM) lol never kena inspection wif them dunno haha i only know architects n contractors r damn rich all wear kam lou (rolex) belanja makan also makan mahal one hahaha  i like going site meetings hahaha  (but as a trainee of coz) as the engineer in charge sumthing goes wrong kena shoot like machine gun hahah AHAHAHHAA...true true. but i think why contractor so rich is because, they always make profit one. so they can be very accomodating.
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(k_kokkhin @ Jun 9 2006, 04:11 PM) yes... like what i said, they wan yum cha.... everytime say this cant, that cant... but give them money, they never say cant also... really kanasai... but sincerely, they earn a lot... side income.... enough for them to yum cha until get diabetes... haha hahahahhha...diabetes...hahahaha. they deserve it..hahahaa
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(k_kokkhin @ Jun 9 2006, 04:17 PM) agree.... but then, why dun u all be contractor? then can 'contribute' more to the authority people...sure they will give u a big kiss...  sigh...being contractor also not easy. always kena from consultant (because i do that to contractor often...hehehehe) once you screw up... authority see contractor sure happy one cos can yum cha, but see consultant nia, their face also black, cos canot yum cha one....heheheheh
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dualshock
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Jun 9 2006, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(aLittleMisfit @ Jun 9 2006, 04:20 PM) my advise it.. go for your dreams.. dont get "stuck" like us! just read the tucker max's speech http://messageboard.tuckermax.com/showthre...95&page=3&pp=10i know! its for lawyers.. and lawyers rot in hell.. but its about living your dream. When I am a student, I thought when I work, I'm gonna buy this buy that.. but guess what?! i'm f***ing poorer than being in student time. hehe. Btw.. jobs as consultick oopps, i mean consultants require constant dealing with authorities too... just as much as achitect do. and I REALLY is a pain in the ass EVERYTIME to meet them, unless they're the pretty clerk there.. IT SUCKS! wow, you just spell out everything that's in my heart...let everyone knows how poor we are...
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