me also c&s. really depressing! pay like sh*t. TOO much liability and TOO LITTLE pay! need to offset my depression with my blogs

sigh...wat to do. i don't know about other ppl but us, as engineer, we have BIG responsibility and paid in NUTS.

sighhhh...why this line in the first place?

yeah jus grad but i had my training in a m & e firm yup gain lotz of knowladge from tat training so kind of hoping to join the consutling field n not others

ur Ir getting already? o stll need another year?
from wat i inquired 3-4 years ehhehe buck up

still need one more year...hopefully by then, pay will be good...

ur pay little coz the boss makan alot
for a building project iirc
30-40% goes to the architect
30-40% c & s
10-20% qs
10% only to m & e
but m & e hav the least liabitiy
hehe

lol after tat u can start showing off ur signature hahahaha
but if the building falls down get ready to be shot hahahha

the funny one is when i was the first day in my training.. both my senior told me that i'm in the wrong line! muahahaha.. now they pass the job for me to tell any "newbies" that they're in wrong line! which area u people working now?

lolz me too the fella say i studied the wrong course haha asked me to take arcitechture if i wanted to get rich in the construction feild

yalah can show off, but as you say, if something happened like wat happened in hulu klang, then die lorr...

yeah lo, my 1st day of training also same... they just said "god bless you" haha... then i thought just blessing... but who knows it was a begin of nightmare... 3 months, never eat, sleep, play, properly one.. i m going to grad soon... now looking for jobs, either sales or consultant... <----- advices needed...

hahaha...true true...but architecture hoh, you have to deal with all the authorities, tht one i hate the most...bunch of morons sitting in the office doing nothing but chit chatting...

hey, are we going off topic here?hehehe...

my advice is, since you're still young, why not go for a try in a consultant firm. that would beef u up with some experience and if you don't like it, you have nothing to lose, just leave and find another...

you are right, dual_shock.... haha, if the building collapsed, u will be jailed...wash ur back side, and sit inside like a bird in a cage for years.... or pay money until you bankrupt... pity also... engineer nowaadys not like last time anymore..

maybe lo.... see how 1st la... i just wan work for $$$.... the higher the better...

wahliao.. dind't know it was so bad in this industry..
thanks for the info.
i would like to tell those just starting uni , give financial engineering/ financial mathematics a try..get phd better still.. definitely very good prospect anywhere in the world.

lol gov red tape sux hahhaa
m & e also need mar
telekom n tnb freaking sienz wait for thier approval once during training my supervisor ask me go tnb office fark them coz so long no reply n the project urgently needed thier approval to go on went up saw them all goin yam cha ask them bout the approval letter they say thier fax machine down i ask them then y never reply calls they say boss not in so they dunno wat to reply
wah so damn many excuse

ya ya, but i do have to say that last time, engineers can be very powerful but now, they just have to work to the demand and leisure of the clients. sighh

lol wan $$$ go MNC comps
minimum u get 2.4k eg.motorola
max i heard 3.2-3.4k eg jaala

this is so called authority ma... if u spend them 'yum cha', u will get approval very soon... pandai pandai lo... i like thier 'show' when site inspection.... haha...can give them oscar award.... they can act super well.... very serious... but, 'yum cha' a lot also...

hard to get in la.... i m not genius also... i hate working is factory also, they say like robot... haha...