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stoopadity
post Jun 9 2006, 01:45 PM

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well, here's just a suggestion...

have trusted focal points in each location. this focal point will act as a middle person for both seller & buyer (if both r not located in the same area or unable to provide cod transaction), and this focal point will meet up wit the seller @ an agreed location convenient to both focal point & seller and the focal point will inspect the goods based on the seller's description & buyer's expectation.

oh yeah, of coz b4 the meeting / inspection point, the buyer will have to bank in the full amount of $ involved in the transaction + delivery charges $ and also a small amount fee (to be decided - either charged to seller or buyer depending on negotiation).

this would be an ideal safetrade for LowYat Sales... basically it's a win win situation for all, buyer get the goods (not cheat), seller get to sell the goods ($ received) and focal point earns (side income).

wat do u all think? maybe have trusted focal point in each state, and allocate area in the state the focal point would be involved.
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post Jun 9 2006, 02:15 PM

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deathbringer thumbup.gif thanks for bringing this up... and yes i do agree wit u the lack of manpower.

like i said, to get focal points, we need trusted members in every state. maybe wat we can suggest is an appointment from the moderators from the trading section, identify those trustworthy and give them an extra tag like mine "safe trader"... maybe put a new tag "focal point trader".

wit this new tag in-place, basically its up to the seller & buyer to decide if they wish to go thru this middle person aka focal point coz this transaction will be charged accordingly. so its still stand by Lowyat.net law of ...

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Lowyat.NET is NOT a trading site. There are trading sites around, such as Lelong or eBay who have measures in place to safeguard your transaction. Lowyat.NET is NOT one of them. The fundamental difference between us and them is that Lowyat.NET facilitates your trades by merely providing a platform, namely, a forum. We do not act as a party in any transaction. We have neither the manpower nor the intention to implement a comprehensive trading system.


basically, either the buyer / seller will have to pay $ to this focal point for this transaction depending on the deal arranged.

for example : abc wanna buy NokiAROla from def. abc offer rm100 n def agree. abc will bear the poslaju fees n def agrees to pay the focal point charges. so abc will bank in rm110 to focal point (nearest to def), and focal point arrange time to cod wit def, inspect the goods and pay the money to def. def will have to pay the focal point the transaction charges. focal point will then deliver the goods via poslaju. end of story... abc gets the good, def sold the good and focal point earns. icon_rolleyes.gif everybody wins!
stoopadity
post Jun 9 2006, 03:08 PM

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deathbringer i hear ur worries buddy... this is wat i can suggest...

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1) trusting a middleman to conclude a deal is still risky, and IMHO, no better than just settling everything via the good 'ol "bank-in and poslaju" method.


wit a trusted focal point, the risk is reduced! icon_rolleyes.gif and yes, there'll always be risk too, but in the real business, everything is a risk... no pain no gain, right?

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2) how much do u think the middleman would charge for his/her services?? too little and it wouldn't be worth the effort. too much and he wouldn't be much of a use. how much would u pay??


how much? well... i wuld say its a mutual agreement. if seller willing to meet at the focal point's preference (meaning, focal point no need to waste much petrol / toll / parking), exp : workplace, home, etc. i wuld say RM10? if focal point need to travel meet in the mid point convenient to seller, i wuld say RM20? and this focal point charges is a mutual agreement between the seller & buyer, whomever agrees to pay.

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3) this method is too troublesome, especially for the middleman. Eg. wat if there r 10 persons who can't meet on the same day @ the same place? or wat if the middleman can't make it on certain days??


well... this focal point aka middleman knows his / her responsibility. u wanna earn side income u gotta take initiative even if cant meet @ same day or same place. basically, weekend sounds good thumbup.gif , or maybe during office hour whereby focal point dont have to go out at all, or maybe night time at any nearby mamaks?

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4) who is gonna volunteer for the post? the mods most probably have their hands full at it is. plus we all have day jobs, ya know?


no volunteer pls... rclxub.gif later con-man volunteers and cheats how? this spoils the main purpose of having focal points... i wuld say the moderator chooses the best candidate from the trade zone and from various states. moderators themselves can be involved if they wan, coz this is an extra side income. and yes we all have day jobs... so do i... yawn.gif but i do trades a lot during office hour or after office hour whichever is convenient... this is just my suggestion.

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that's why LYN would never become the next "eBay" in the near future.


YES but it serves as an alternative portal to lelong / ebay. whistling.gif
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post Jun 9 2006, 03:16 PM

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stevanistelrooy bro... i believe its best if we can get ONLY local sellers, so which means we have ONLY local focal-points... buyers can be anywhere. from US, Aussie, UK... as long as they r willin to pay the $ 1st to the focal point to deal on behalf. then the focal point will deliver the goods accordingly...

meaning... if the seller & focal point are in the same state, the focal point acts as a middleman to complete the transaction... and wherever the buyer is, the focal-point will deliver the goods to him / her. this way, we can MINIMISE cheats (not fully 100%) and MAXIMISE our security...
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post Jun 9 2006, 03:49 PM

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stevanistelrooy well... i know its unfair, but how many oversea lowyaters who r always doing trading may i ask...? r they a frequent seller or just a 1mth 1 item kinda trader?

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And how you can trust a focal point? They can con also you know
When in desperate mode, human can do anything although he is known as a good..yada yada..


like i said... its just a suggestion to MINIMISE cheat and MAXIMISE security. yes, i agree when humans r in desperate mode, they wuld do anything... but this is a win-win situation for all, the focal point earns an extra side income. imagine every weekdays got 2 deal, 2 x rm10 x 5 days x 4 weeks = rm400. so imagine every month got extra rm400... its a lot ler (to me lar...)

 

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