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post Oct 20 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Oct 20 2013, 09:22 AM)
The point of G-Sync is fluid motion.  Better monitor still have lock refresh rate. IPS panel still stuck at 60hz, there are some can be overclock.  120hz monitor still fixed refresh rate, but minimize the tearing effect. 

We pay graphic card more than USD100 to have fluid motion, not high FPS alone.  Having high FPS does not really translate fluid motion in these modern day because the bottleneck is current monitor technology.  Unlike old school days where 20-30 fps make big difference to give the fluid motion impression. GPU during those days still primitive and strugle to give at least 30fps at 800x600. Dynamic refresh rate is the future of gaming, and motion pictures.
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I don't think it's fluid motion as opposed to removal of screen tears and v-sync related input lag hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Oct 20 2013, 09:54 AM)
Nvidia demos at relatively 60fps.  The benefit of g-sync is to get match fps with refresh rate. The fluid motion is when the fps is higher than 60 and the refresh rate can match it.

I would rather spent moneys more on monitor that gives the feature, rather than focusing on upgrading gpu. This is long waited technology. Everyone is busy with 3d, and 4k.. but not variable refresh rate.

Refresh rate issue is long due problem since the introduction of motion pictures.
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That's not fluid motion, but rather the removal of screen tears caused by monitor already halfway displaying a picture and GPU generated a fresh new frame.
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post Oct 20 2013, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Oct 20 2013, 10:11 AM)
What is your fluid motion by your definitions?
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It's irrelevant.

http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/...d_other_things/

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Say, for example, that part of the image contains what should have been displayed at the 15 second mark and the other part consists of what should have been displayed at the 16 second mark. In the time between those images, your view may have veered slightly to the right, so part of the image will look slightly further to the right while the other part is still straight on. The image is therefore misaligned at parts, resulting in the tearing effect.

Another way to put this is to say the graphics card and monitor have gone out of sync: the graphics card is kicking out frames faster than the monitor can display them. This is where VSync enters the picture. VSync literally stands for "Vertical Synchronization." Its job is to make sure the images vertically align, and it does this by making the graphics card a slave to the monitor.
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/...nnounces_gsync/

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G-SYNC allows the refresh rate to be variable in the monitor. That means if your GPU is drawing 50FPS, your monitor will refresh at 50hz, eliminating the possibility that a frame will come in before the monitor is done refreshing.

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post Oct 20 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Oct 20 2013, 11:01 AM)
Smoothness/fluid motion is visible even at lower 60fps with g-sync.  Just like the old days gaming on crt low res with high refresh rate, even less than 60fps we can perceive the fluidness.
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Smoothness is generally attributed to framerate and lack of fps spikes, and slightly related is input lag. Even with G-sync, 30fps and below will still feel sluggish compared to 60fps.

CRTs have lower response time than TN which has lower response time than IPS.

What G-Sync solves is this:
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EDIT: do you mean less stutters?

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post Oct 20 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(azsace @ Oct 20 2013, 07:59 PM)
U can capped the frame to 30, 48, 50, 60, 72, 75 depends on ur monitor... and also how powerful ur card...
With this u can reduce the micro-stuter n reduce the screen tearing since the frame rate variance is minimal
For amd radeonpro.. nvidia nvidia inspector... u should play with these two great tweak apps
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or we just turn v-sync on, problem solved hmm.gif
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QUOTE(piskin @ Oct 20 2013, 08:50 PM)
when v-sync on it will introduce mouse lag too sad.gif
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depends on the game hmm.gif like how good is the engine
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post Oct 21 2013, 07:01 PM

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according to c-zone, orion pro is RM339 huh.gif

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We can expect Asus to sell for RM300-500 more than Leadtek/Sapphire huh.gif

BF4 bundle is probably unescapable these two months, then again it makes no sense to buy 290x and not play the game (BF4) which takes full advantage of Mantle.

Probably Sapphire will sell it for around RM2200.

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post Oct 22 2013, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Oct 22 2013, 02:33 PM)
recommend me a 1k watt psu  shocking.gif thxs for d site.
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WTF so ganas rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Oct 22 2013, 07:06 PM)
lowest = leadtek!

wait.. leadtek got do amd?
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i onli see they got NV GPUs sad.gif
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Oct 23 2013, 08:51 AM)
Well, Looks like 780Ti's price already revealed... 650USD!!!
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780...-radeon-r9-290/

R9-290X "should be" arround 599-649USD.
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I'm thinking both 780Ti and 290X will be same price: $650 hmm.gif

That leaves vanilla 780 and 290 at maybe $550 or $600, which is farking insane value.
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Oct 23 2013, 02:58 PM)
Hard to say... I feel like the NV & AMD going to "price fixing"...  hmm.gif
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unlikely hmm.gif since NV is dropping price of 780 and AMD was been gaining a bit of market share recently


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post Oct 23 2013, 04:01 PM

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290x - 12am 24 October
290 - 12am 31 October

I guess they are American time? huh.gif
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post Oct 23 2013, 08:29 PM

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RM2399 from Feiton

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post Oct 24 2013, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Oct 24 2013, 12:19 AM)
G-sync(sound gay sync)... no thank you i prefer V-sync... lol  biggrin.gif
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Or you prefer... N-SYNC?

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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Oct 24 2013, 12:23 PM)
How come NDA lifted but no videos about it? sad.gif
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Maybe it was in PST instead of EST laugh.gif
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post Oct 24 2013, 01:36 PM

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It's up!!! biggrin.gif http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon...eview,3650.html

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 24 2013, 01:45 PM)
wah asus sell 290x at rm2799? while at US sapphire r9 290x USD 549 only.. 290x on par with titan and smoke gtx780.. interesting.. but everyone say it is hot and noisy.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon...ew,3650-29.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon...ew,3650-30.html

According to Toms, lower power consumption than GTX780 and Titan during gaming, and also quiet in stock settings.
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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 24 2013, 02:23 PM)
- Unless you do gaming at reso above 25x16, R9-290x is overkill.

- I wish for a more linear price point for this card.
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1) GPU demands for native-resolution gaming increase rapidly during mid-cycle of console generation, nothing stays cutting edge forever. 8800GTX was considered overkill not long ago.

2) Expecting linear price increase for performance is generally unrealistic for single-gpu solutions, they usually curve.

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post Oct 24 2013, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(-=J4cKa5s=- @ Oct 24 2013, 09:10 PM)
Haha.. newegg start selling d... All reference cooler and start from USD550 to USD580.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....N=-1&isNodeId=1
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