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post Oct 13 2013, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(roimekoi @ Oct 13 2013, 05:54 PM)
can 750w psu support 7950 overclock??
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Yes, that is more than plenty.
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post Oct 14 2013, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(djronzai @ Oct 14 2013, 10:24 PM)
Hi everyone, i m not sure is it the right place to ask about AMD CPU since most of the post i seen are about GPU only. Anyway, i would like to ask for your AMD expert opinion or piece of advices. Has anyone using AMD FX-8350 processor? Because i would like to save up my budget on buying Intel processor, so i was thinking to buy

AMD FX-8350 [RM665]
Power Color R9-280x [RM1049]
motherboard ASRock N68C-GS FX AMD AM3+ mATX Mainboard [RM138]

So far, has any1 faced any issue using this AMD processor? becos i never buy any AMD processor before, would like to hear some proposition before i make my final decision. Peace and thanks  smile.gif
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Bad combo on the CPU+board, get 8320 and up the budget of your board.. MSI 990FXA-GD65 maybe?
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post Oct 14 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Oct 14 2013, 10:46 PM)
Sabertooth better... brows.gif
...or the ASUS M5A99X EVO... Though it's only x8 x8 at PCI-E 2.0... (CFX/SLI setups)
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Budget bro budget. tongue.gif

x8 x8 is fine, but M5A99X is almost RM100 more expensive than 990FXA-GD65 and not a whole lot better.

QUOTE(djronzai @ Oct 14 2013, 10:52 PM)
Thx for all the reply guys... but what about this motherboard

ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 AMD AM3+ ATX Mainboard [RM205], i have to save up the budget on buying the R9 280x...
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Sry i don't have much experience about buying mainboard. My stand is firm, FX8320+990FXA-GD65. tongue.gif

QUOTE(-bLiZZarD- @ Oct 14 2013, 11:02 PM)
anyone know when msi version of r9 270x to hit malaysia store?

i choose msi for their low temperature.
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Does that mean other brand have high temperature? laugh.gif
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post Oct 14 2013, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(sasaug @ Oct 14 2013, 11:15 PM)
Is it really no difference between 8350 and 8320? I heard 8350 are those better chips, 8320 usually lose out in OC etc like a bad batch of 8350 which they make into 8320.
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There is a difference but not really noticeable. Indeed FX8350 is a better binned chip so you can overclock higher than FX8320 but YMMV and yes, that is how they make chip. Failed 7970 became 7950 and failed 7950 became 7870XT.
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post Oct 15 2013, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Oct 15 2013, 12:32 AM)
NDA lifts on the 15th? Been waiting to see some benchies
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Sorry i forgot to post this, not today bro.

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The new launch date

My yesterday’s post about the launch date caused a huge misunderstanding on multiple forums. So let me rephrase what I wanted to say and hopefully this will clear things a bit. The R9 290X will not launch tomorrow, instead it will launch around October 24th, while R9 290 should arrive on October 31st (both dates are just rumors, but a very good ones).

I was also told that October 15th, which was an NDA date in the slides leaked by Donanim Haber (and no, we didn’t made that up), was just a milestone, which was later updated by AMD during the GPU 14 event. Apparently they didn’t update it on time and it somehow made its way to the web. So technically it was postponed, but AMD will just say it was never meant to be launched on this date. Instead they will just claim it’s right on track and the schedule has not changed (of course it didn’t, but we never learned the official launch date).



Sauce: HIS Radeon R9 290X pictured up close
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post Oct 15 2013, 02:11 PM

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fresh from the oven.

https://twitter.com/AMDRadeon/status/389889549016391680
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Cont'd

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is a development environment that's *similar* to the consoles, which already offer low-level APIs, close-to-metal programming, easier development and more (vs. the complicated PC environment). By creating a more console-like developer environment, Mantle: improves time to market; reduces development costs; and allows for considerably more efficient rendering, improving performance for gamers. The console connection is made because next-gen uses Radeon, so much of the programming they're doing for the consoles are already well-suited to a modern Radeon architecture on the desktop; that continuum is what allows Mantle to exist. ^RH

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post Oct 15 2013, 05:29 PM

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AMD still hasn’t settled

We were concerned that AMD’s Never Settle bundle has met its maker and that it might be a thing of the past. Many have noticed that the new Radeon R9 280X and other Rx200-series cards are not coming with the well known Never Settle bundle. On AMD’s Never Settle Forever website we read that the bundle only covers Radeon 7000 series and not the new series.

The good news is that we got official confirmation that Never Settle is coming back to the Rx200 series. AMD Vice President of sales Roy Taylor went on the record confirming that AMD plans to reintroduce the bundles as apparently they get the job done. We lack many details about the bundle pattern as currently Gold reward means you get three games, Silver means two and Bronze is a single game and they depend on the card you choose. We expect a similar deal with future cards and on top of that there’s the limited BF4 bundle for flagship cards.

Despite a quite large investment in these bundles on AMD’s part, reports from Europe and the USA are suggesting that the bundles did help AMDs sales, especially in the higher end market, and the bundles definitely point to a wind of change in the way graphics card manufacturers are doing business.

Sauce: Never Settle coming back to Rx200 cards



QUOTE(nsiboro @ Oct 15 2013, 04:27 PM)
Ooooookay, time for 290X un-boxed & benchmarks from chiphell.

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http://www.chiphell.com/thread-878018-1-1.html

Go! Go! <gadget?!> tongue.gif
EDIT: OMG!  shocking.gif  X5728 ?!?!?

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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There's 2 scores there, X4580 and X5728. What is the different? I can't see it clearly because of low res. doh.gif
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post Oct 15 2013, 10:06 PM

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Moar leaked synthetic benchmark spams!

3DMark Firestrike Extreme
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3DMark Firestrike
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3DMark11 - Performance
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3DMark11 - Extreme
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Unigine Heaven 4.0 - Extreme (wish they did it in 1080p)
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Sos Kicap : More AMD Radeon R9 290X performance charts emerge - Videocardz.com

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post Oct 16 2013, 12:33 AM

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Radeon R9 290X Launch Date Revealed?

At a local press gathering in Turkey, AMD revealed the launch date of its next high-end product, the Radeon R9 290X. The press NDA over the card will end on October 15, 2013, at 12:01 AM EST (Berlin time). This NDA expiry time was disclosed in the slides that AMD showed the press. There's always the possibility that the NDA expiry date doesn't match market availability. It could merely mark NDA expiry for the press to post reviews of their AMD reference-design R9 290X (the only kind of R9 290X that will be initially available). AMD is handling R9 290X launch much in the same way NVIDIA handled the GTX TITAN, in that there won't be non-reference design cards in the foreseeable future, with the exception of cards with factory-fitted full-coverage water-blocks.

Sauce: Radeon R9 290X Launch Date Revealed?

So there won't be a Vapor-X/Matrix/Lightning/TwinFrozr/Ice-Q?? Or it will come later? hmm.gif

and leaked pricing on Denmark website for R9-290x & R9-290

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Prices:

MSI R9-290: 473€
PowerColor R9-290: 499€

MSI R9-290X: 603€
PowerColor R9-290X: 699€

Sauce: Grafikkarten » PCIe mit GPU (AMD/ATI): R9 290X/R9 290

RM2.5k for R9-290x
RM2k for R9-290

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post Oct 16 2013, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(ASUSmy @ Oct 16 2013, 02:09 AM)
hrm... i guess it would be great for us to send owikh both the R9 290X and Titan for him to verify it. after all, he's a local guru (non-bias). of course, still need to wait the sample to arrive. sad.gif
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Please do that. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Oct 16 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 16 2013, 10:31 AM)
Acid_RuleZz Looks like not just Mantle, OpenGL extensions too... that means future games do not need 'game optimized' drivers.

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/amd-aims-to-...the-bottleneck/

As for Nvidia, their business priority seems to be cracking the mobile business. I sure do not hope them to drop desktop GPU.
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Woot, big kudos to AMD if they manage to pull this off. Indeed about Nvidia thingy, that market bring more profit compare to desktop gpu i guess.


QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Oct 16 2013, 10:55 AM)
On second thought, there is something going on between nvidia and valve.  Steam machines are all nvidia based cards.

It is actually kinda weird when AMD introduces this new low level API and OpenGL extensions...  and nvidia is mum about this.  Probably, nvidia is actually ahead where valve got nvidia onboard with steamOS/linux.
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Only the prototype will ship with Nvidia GPU, they will release AMD GPU as well in the future, probably waiting to bundle all of the 290x. brows.gif
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post Oct 16 2013, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 16 2013, 11:35 AM)
Steam prototype machines are Nvidia, but they are not dumping AMD. News is they'll get there in 2014.

AMD/ATI won the consoles, too, landing XBox One and PS4, putting x86 into consoles. With that, PC-Mantle is just few more shorter steps away to getting early games. Not as easy as it sounds, but definitely better than legacy consoles IMO.

For Nvidia's case, I don't know what to look forward to.
Lately there's word that they are putting 64-bit into phone SoCs. Maybe that's something.
Maxwell? I don't see it.
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Wii U also use AMD GPU but not GCN architecture IIRC.

Nvidia gonna reveal probably a new GPU next month at Montreal Canada and there's gonna be a "Super Secret Meeting Livestream" with PCPER on 21st this month.

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post Oct 16 2013, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Desprado @ Oct 16 2013, 01:04 PM)
NVIDIA is developing something BIG and it's not a GPU
Read more at http://www.tweaktown.com/news/33025/rumort...KRBMKulaestZ.99
i giving ur answer.
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You mean the invisibility cloak for pedos? Nothing to see here. Ayam disappointed. sad.gif

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An impatient researcher is using NVIDIA GPUs to speed up his ability to model invisible materials.

These so-called “metamaterials” exist for now only on blackboards, as pioneered by theoretical physicist Sir John Pendry, of the Imperial College of London.

But the notion has Attique Dawood, an instructor at the National University of Computer and Emerging Sciences, in Islamabad, buzzing. And others are equally excited.


Sauce: http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2013/10/09/invisibility-cloak/
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post Oct 16 2013, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 16 2013, 03:57 PM)
Got hope:
Their new CFO: http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/NVID...fficer-a26.aspx

And she immediately got stock bonus:
http://www.nasdaq.com/quotes/insiders/kress-colette-917514
220k @ $15.41 = $3.39 Million
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Oh wow, i know she used to work for M$ before.
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post Oct 17 2013, 01:03 PM

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^ I don't think there will be any R9-280 with current pricing.

QUOTE(InfoO2 @ Oct 17 2013, 12:04 PM)
Which R series graphic card can beat 7850? value vs performance
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R9-280x. 270x is overpriced. ph34r.gif
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post Oct 17 2013, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(azsace @ Oct 17 2013, 01:21 PM)
the sapphire r270x range is quite reasonable.. but if for other manufacturer lke asus/giga.msi.. yep its overprice

anyway.. should i crossfire 270x or wait for one r9 280x toxic...crossfire this two card i can get a higher performance compared to single r9 280x toxic...

but issues is, one game im playing assassin creed 3 the crossfire profile still not good... anybody know a better way to increase fps using crossfire for ac3?
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Still ok for sub RM800 but over that is not worth it imo, the old 7870XT still give better price/performance compare to 270x and if you can get 7950 for around or under RM1k, better get that.
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post Oct 17 2013, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(azsace @ Oct 17 2013, 02:02 PM)
well.. if can get 7950 less than rm1k definitely a steal.. but the problem is i dont think u can get that price...
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I definitely saw Hikari85 and Zhen^Wei selling HD7950 Dual-X around RM950 and Vapor-X for RM980 before, but now both pushing the R9 series so i don't know if they still have it.

Lingloong still selling them though.
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SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X HD7950 GHZ EDITION 3GB GDDR5 = RM1015 
SAPPHIRE HD 7950 3G GDDR5 PCI-E  = RM985

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post Oct 17 2013, 03:13 PM

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News

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AMD's R9 290X will be shown off tomorrow in Montreal while NVIDIA host press.

Tomorrow while NVIDIA host many of the biggest names in tech media at an event in Montreal, Canada, AMD will be hosting a smaller event a at the Hilton Bonaventure hotel just down the road. The event will be based around the company's new Radeon R9 290X GPU and is open to the public.

AMD says that there is an open door policy for gamers to come in and check out the new GPU and play some games. The Event takes place between 3PM and 8PM. The game of choice will be Bioshock Infinite which will be displayed on 4K monitors. Sources say that AMD will also have systems set up beside the R9 GPU that will be running NVIDIA's GTX 780 as a comparison.

Sauce: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/33469/amd-wi...real/index.html



Public demo of the 290x tomorrow. Pretty ballsy move by AMD i say but they only compare it with GTX780, maybe not enough to beat Titan?
Will it become PR blunder like the Bulldozer? hmm.gif
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post Oct 17 2013, 03:39 PM

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Another news and this time for Linux user.

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AMD cards get an unexpected boost from the Linux 3.12 kernel

Phoronix had a very pleasant surprise over the weekend which was apparently also a complete surprise to the AMD Linux driver team; vastly improved GPU performance on the 3.12 kernel.  In tests on a dozen cards ranging from the elderly HD3850 to the HD6950 all cards showed at least some improvements and in some cases increases of 50%.  Keep your eyes tuned for updates as they work with AMD's Linux team to see where these performance increases originated from and to give Phoronix time to get their hands on new hardware for more testing.

Sauce1 = http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/AMD...inux-312-kernel

Sauce2 = http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=arti...312_major&num=3


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post Oct 17 2013, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(Puteih @ Oct 17 2013, 03:31 PM)
Is Sapphire R9 280X Toxic 3GB GDDR5 better than HD7950? Or is it still overprice?
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The price for 280x Toxic is still ok imo, to beat a 280x@1150mhz, you need to overclock HD7950 to around 1250mhz Very very few HD7950 can do that.

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