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post May 3 2008, 08:35 PM

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post with memset
easier to tell..
in diagnostic mode
everest set to priority high.

also use everest 4.5


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post May 6 2008, 02:25 AM

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some rams are just nuts the best of D9GMH's... d9GKX can go far far away tongue.gif and die there.. kekekek

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post May 16 2008, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(Vannus @ May 15 2008, 02:00 AM)
Compare Your Write Speed and Latency to the OCZ rm200 ram 2x1gb =) way faster. lol  icon_rolleyes.gif

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thats cause nvidia chipset

show how low ure write and copy is..

on sandra nvidia chipset scores are very low in comparison to intel.


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QUOTE(a1098113 @ May 14 2008, 11:08 PM)
hmm i have a noob question here, how does Vmch affect ram voltages and stability?
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ May 15 2008, 01:25 AM)
Don't affect but he is doing 500FSB which need a bump in vmch to be stable
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NB voltages are depending on bandiwth aka tRD's not on FSB...



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post May 22 2008, 04:01 AM

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400fsb 1:1 CL4 lowest trd is 7..not 6

7-4>2

6-4>2.. so cannot


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post May 22 2008, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ May 22 2008, 08:09 AM)
hmm, cannot means it'll not stable ka?

btw, to test trd is by using those cpu stress test or memtest?
thnx.

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here's wat i got from everest,
in bios, i set mem timing to 4-4-4-12 & trd=6.
other subtimings, all on auto.

tried 420fsb 4:5 trd=7 (or 6, if i got it wrong)... 
can't boot though.
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read anandtech review on rampage formula
they dedicated nearly 4-5 pages on this..

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post May 23 2008, 04:02 AM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ May 23 2008, 03:01 AM)
that's weird.

from the anandt,
counted the formula, 2>2 ? , should be = no.
which should results in either won't Post/operate.

heck, i ran stress test and folding straight till now.. seems no issue eh?

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show me memset..

me no trust everest..

but ure scores are similar to tRD 7 for DFI X48..
tRD 6 would be hitting 8-8.1k..
on 3.2

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post May 24 2008, 03:18 AM

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hmm thats a first i have seen
whats the strap btw??

333/667??

nah nothing to do with multi

nah the difference with G33/P35 vs x38/x48 is about the same.. neglible..
infact overclocking on 4 dimm slots is easier on the p35's even on 8gb's


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post Jun 2 2008, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ May 27 2008, 09:03 PM)
hmm, how to determine the strap ah? tongue.gif
afaik, dfi bios got options for manual selections on several straps in the menu eh?
i think i don't have it in my bios, and also dunno where the strap change for my mobo.
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jun 1 2008, 10:03 PM)
Team Extreem is guaranteed on their D9GMH chips.. and well strap of chipset can be determined by checking what the max fsb speed is for the board( NON-OC). For example, a P35 runs at 1333Mhz, so using the quad pumped FSB architecture, Intel Adopts, u divide that by 4 so u will get an effective 333Mhz on FSB. Now thats your Strap. For X48s the strap is 400Mhz

CSTKL is the man for this smile.gif
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eh i asked cause since most asus mobos even their p35's now have strap 400 with the new bios update..
so thats y i asked..

currently asus p35/x38/p45/x48 all have strap 400

mobo tested p5k deluxe/maximus/p5q3deluxe p5q deluxe/rampage

so was wondering whether did gay gay updated the bios for their boards..

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post Jun 9 2008, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Jun 9 2008, 02:27 PM)
but new batch Team Elite cant go over 900mhz on 5-5-5-15
i must set to 6-6-5-16 at least to clock over 1000mhz doh.gif
but my super PI test now 10++ sec, with 'relax' timing
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jun 9 2008, 03:22 PM)
i also had single-sided team elites which can do 1125Mhz on CL5.. miss those gems sad.gif
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depends on trd settings
prove the difference with bandwidth test..
till then all those numbers are just BS
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post Jun 12 2008, 04:28 PM

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2.3-2.35v for FSB 400... 1:1 tRD 5

did u know team xtreem used to sell PC2-8500 Cl4's.. its the same rams as the team xtreem PC2-6400 C3s but binned at Cl4
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QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ Jun 12 2008, 09:09 PM)
can sifu guide me which ram to buy for 4gb kit? team or corsair or crucial?

team = rm399
corsair = rm340
crucial = 389

dunno which one to buy.... i do oc my rig
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the best 4gbs are the PC2-8000 Cl5's

which are ocz reaper x PC2-8000 and the gskill PC2-8000
u better get them while they last cause heard going to eol soon


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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jun 16 2008, 12:17 AM)
kingmax puked out at cl4, at least in the 20 sticks i tested, max was on 9xx mhz 2.2v max, since further voltage destabilized it regardless of the speed
yeah, Gskill pc2-8000 was the one of first 4gb kit that did pretty decent few months back, sold mine off because needed rams that do 1200mhz minimum :S
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hahah only one 4gb kit that does that

ocz flex 2 PC2-9200
and its sold out everywhere


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QUOTE(ahsiah @ Jun 16 2008, 10:25 AM)
All all sifu, I am new to DDR2-RAM. Recently, my Crucial just gone down. I need to purchase a new kit 2x2gb. Not required must hit 1200Mhz. But most important is it is run not hot as Crucial RAM. Mind to give me some advise? Any performance RAM also can.
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my choice

1. OCZ Flex II PC2-9200
2. Mushkin Redlines PC2-8000
2. OCZ Reaper X PC2-8000
3. Gskill PC2-8000

the first one almost impossible to get
the second one is difficult to find
the third one is going to EOL soon
the fourth one got some ppl still bulking here.. but u better hurry..

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post Jun 17 2008, 08:00 PM

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hint hint 1200mhz at 400fsb. lowest trd is 5..
1200mhz at 400fsb tRD 6 is just slightly slower than 800mhz CL3 tRD6.. and slower than 1000CL4 trd 5


Added on June 17, 2008, 8:02 pmoh yeah coolice.. waiting for bios 0603..
got issue at 600fsb 1:1..



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post Jun 19 2008, 07:39 PM

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oh did i forgot to mention

the biostar tpower i45 has a inbuilt memtest86...at the bios

cool eh..

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post Jun 25 2008, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Archaven @ Jun 19 2008, 07:15 PM)
ok thanks alot a1098113 smile.gif.

i was wondering what RAM stress tool anyone use? memtest86+? prime95 blend test? OCCT RAM test? hci memtest?

i've seen many can achieve high RAM OC. but did it pass memory stress test?

i've tried OCCT stress test RAM for 2 hours and it passed certifying it stable but when i ran HCI memtest, it produce error almost instantaneously.

i'm currently testing 1000MHz at 4-4-4-8 with 2.3vdimm and hci memtest failed at 450% coverage. hmm.gif. is hci memtest is a reliable memory stressing tool?
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if u pass memtest..

usually ure scores are higher

for the biostar mobo since its inbuilt
all my voltages that are lower than 2.3
i ran memtest86...

those that are above i dont.. cause thats insane to do it...
but roughly from previous subtimings experience i can guess what will pass and what wouldnt.

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dude the good stuff for 4gbs are almost out of stock and soon eol

already told some of u guys its the PC2-8000 series

ocz reaperx PC2-8000
mushkin redlines PC2-8000
geil PC2-8000..

and the king currently is the ocx flex 2 PC2-9200 ( sold out everywhere)

heard from channel partners they are going to stop production as the cost of the micron chip is more expensive that pcp that can run PC2-8500 at the same voltage..

but not as overclockable
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post Jun 26 2008, 01:59 PM

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dude 4x1gb's are expensive..especially when u want d9gmh's

2x1gb is silly to buy.. cause ure just a pantsy if u do..
vista is the way

so its a 4gb clocking scene...
ppl want to see 4gb clocks.. whether its 4x1gb or 2x2gb..
cause thats the current need for gaming

for us who actually love online gaming for FPS and strategy..
need those 4gb's with vista.
ati HD3000 series and HD4000 series is made for vista..
they dont perform that well for xp..

so again i reiterate crucial rams are crap not because of the rams per say
we should blame ourselves for living in a malaysia..
the rams are not suitable for our climate for overclocking and 24/7 run.
the pcbs are too thin..
and was made that way to save electricity with those low voltages.

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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Jun 26 2008, 03:57 PM)
a1098113, 2 gb is definately not enough for vista especially in those FPS and strategy game. In XP u might survive with 2gb but in Vista u need more.

so far after i upgrade my platform to vista, average ram utilization is hitting 2.5gb during normal gaming session. I ran riva tuner side by side to monitor the resource utilization.

btw, ocx flex 2 PC2-9200 is da king as cstkl mention at the moment..... sadly all runnig out of stock
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jun 26 2008, 04:04 PM)
even the 32-bit vista basic? does it need 4GB? as well? Anyways, i do know that vista is a whore with rams.. but.. hmm 2*1Gb is still pretty useful and not as bad as purported by cstkl1... what i am trying to say is that, having 2Gb doesnt mean youre pantsy.. anyways lets get on with the topic... and be more productive smile.gif By the way, any 4GB kits that can hot 1200Mhz?
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dude even on dota if i the game takes like 45mins to 1 hour
will run with out of mem

thats how bad 2gb on vista is..
lets not even go to new games..

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post Jul 7 2008, 08:21 PM

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Some ReaperX PC2-8000 2x2gb Powah
1000mhz CL5 1:1 1.84v!!!
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