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RokXIII
post Dec 9 2007, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 8 2007, 10:42 PM)
how to check that my ram is d9gmh?
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just look at the IC/chip on the RAM.... sweat.gif
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post Dec 9 2007, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(leslie0880 @ Dec 9 2007, 12:59 AM)
hi all,wht is the good oc chipset for the 2gb per stick?stil is the D9 chip?
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So far, still the D9 chips - especially the D9GKX (the best) and D9GMH...
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post Dec 9 2007, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Dec 9 2007, 12:59 AM)
just look at the IC/chip on the RAM.... sweat.gif
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im using crucial ballistix..cant read behind the heatspreader sweat.gif
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post Dec 9 2007, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Dec 9 2007, 06:50 PM)
im using crucial ballistix..cant read behind the heatspreader sweat.gif
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crucial ballistix is using D9GMH chip...
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post Dec 9 2007, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 9 2007, 07:23 AM)
So far, still the D9 chips - especially the D9GKX (the best) and D9GMH...
Dude, where got 2GB DDR2 single stick that comes with Micron D9GMH / D9GKX? laugh.gif

U go read leslie0880 question again lar. tongue.gif

Micron D9GMH / D9GKX has never been used on a single stick 2GB DDR2.
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 9 2007, 08:26 PM)
Dude, where got 2GB DDR2 single stick that comes with Micron D9GMH / D9GKX? laugh.gif

U go read leslie0880 question again lar. tongue.gif

Micron D9GMH / D9GKX has never been used on a single stick 2GB DDR2.
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Hehe....didn't see the 2gb PER stick...... sorry.... sweat.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 12:17 AM

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haha,so any idea for 2gb per stick?
coz i dun want run 4*1GB on OC......
so try to find which chipset hav good oc capablelity!!
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I just bought a pair of supertalent ram. The thing is, its default timing read from my mobo bios is 5-5-5-15 instead of 4-4-3-8. WHYYYY???

pls sumone help. icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Dec 10 2007, 02:48 PM)
I just bought a pair of supertalent ram. The thing is, its default timing read from my mobo bios is 5-5-5-15 instead of 4-4-3-8. WHYYYY???

pls sumone help.  icon_question.gif
That's because u need to adjust the timing by yourself. smile.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 10 2007, 02:55 PM)
That's because u need to adjust the timing by yourself. smile.gif
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I DID. and guess what, it wont boot. I add vdimm till 2.35V stil wont boot at 4-4-3-8. WHYY????
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QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Dec 10 2007, 03:11 PM)
I DID. and guess what, it wont boot. I add vdimm till 2.35V stil wont boot at 4-4-3-8. WHYY????
That's strange, last time i used the same supertalent ram as yours too, and it boot perfectly on DDR2 800 4-4-3-8 on 1.95Volts. hmm.gif
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post Dec 10 2007, 03:52 PM

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the kingbox ddr2 d9gmh using the 6 layer PCB, how if performance compare to normal 8 layer d9gmh ?

coz i Google all kingbox ddr2 800 d9gmh all using the 8 layer pcb

but this one using the 6 layer...

do it mean it lower performance by reduce the layer of pcb or lower the OC ability
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Dec 10 2007, 03:52 PM)
the kingbox ddr2 d9gmh using the 6 layer PCB, how if performance compare to normal 8 layer d9gmh ?

coz i Google all kingbox ddr2 800 d9gmh all using the 8 layer pcb

but this one using the 6 layer...

do it mean it lower performance by reduce the layer of pcb or lower the OC ability
You won't really see the differences.
It's just a little.

Eitherway, you're paying RM85 for a 1GB DDR2 667MHz that uses Micron D9GMH, which means if you buy two kits, you're only paying RM170 for 2X1GB what do you expect?
Even Crucial Ballistix DDR2 PC2 PC2-5300 667MHz 2GB Kit will cost you around RM300 & above.

Not to forget, Crucial Ballistix still use 6 layers of PCB, not eight. tongue.gif

Comeon lar, it's using 6 layers PCB mah, that's better than any valuerams that is on 4 layers PCB what? laugh.gif
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post Dec 11 2007, 12:33 AM

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bro shawty. I managed to boot at 4-4-3-8 after adding voltage sampai 2.45 V. This is strange.

Is there any foul play here bro. You know, perhaps sumbody sold me a faulty RAM? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Dec 11 2007, 12:33 AM)
bro shawty. I managed to boot at 4-4-3-8 after adding voltage sampai 2.45 V. This is strange.

Is there any foul play here bro. You know, perhaps sumbody sold me a faulty RAM?  hmm.gif
I don't know how to answer that question myself.
Perhaps maybe your motherboard vdimm vdroop is huge compared to the board i've tested. blush.gif
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After done some research bout this supertalent ram, now i know that it is an SPD ram. SPD stands for Serial Presence Detect, which is the firmware for a memory module. Basic information on the module like manufacturer, clock speed, latency values, capacity, and architecture are programmed by the module manufacturer in a small EEPROM chip on the module. When your system boots up, this data is fed into the brains of your system so it knows what memory you have installed. So bassically, this SPD will set the lowest value for the ram when it is initially installed so that it'll work in any mobos.

Managed to boot at 2.2V. smile.gif Now runnig at 962 Mhz with its default aggressive 4-4-3-8 timing. Very satisfied with it. It's not a faulty ram after all. biggrin.gif


Correction: Needed to boot at 2.4V tho to make its stable at 4-4-3-8. Running orthos 5 hours now and no error whatsoever. But still, the vdimm is quite high for my supertalent to reach 968Mhz tho. Most website reviewing this supertalent ram only used vdimm around 2.1 to achieve that speed using aggressive timing of 4-4-3-8. Stil makes me feel strange tho wink.gif

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post Dec 13 2007, 01:53 AM

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guys i wan to know if my RAM is at a suitable speed
i m using 2x 1GB crucial balistix PC6400 800Mhz
i managed to OC it to 932Mhz at 2.0v

should i make it 4-4-4-12 or 5-5-5-18?
is it ok?

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post Dec 13 2007, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(nadeng1987 @ Dec 11 2007, 11:54 AM)
But still, the vdimm is quite high for my supertalent to reach 968Mhz tho. Most website reviewing this supertalent ram only used vdimm around 2.1 to achieve that speed using aggressive timing of 4-4-3-8. Stil makes me feel strange tho  wink.gif
That's because those reviewers reviewed those supertalent while they are still using Micron D9GMH chipsets.
Yours is on ProMOS chipset, that's why u need higher vdimm's.
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post Dec 13 2007, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 11 2007, 12:39 AM)
I don't know how to answer that question myself.
Perhaps maybe your motherboard vdimm vdroop is huge compared to the board i've tested. blush.gif
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try maximus se...this board has no vdroop for vdimm...instead of that it overvolts ur ram brows.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 13 2007, 01:59 AM)
That's because those reviewers reviewed those supertalent while they are still using Micron D9GMH chipsets.
Yours is on ProMOS chipset, that's why u need higher vdimm's.
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How do you know mine is promos? Was the ram yours before mr.shawty? laugh.gif

Nway, I dropped a bit fsb, made my cpu running at 2.835Ghz no added vcore, and run my ram to 945Mhz 4-4-3-8-11 @ 2.2V. That's 0.2 of vdimm decrement. The performance dont really decrease that much tho. Only lost 0.05 seconds in super pi 1M compared to 968Mhz 2.9Ghz system.

Now im sticking with this setup. My ram wont go that hot la with 2.2V and it's stil in its recommended vdimm. smile.gif

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