Hey guy can your name me at least 5 players Jose mourinho bought & turn them into a world class player? Don't mention players he inherited.

with all due respect. who barged into who?

Crazy game. I admit that we got lucky for that penalty. It's 50/50 to me and the momentum was with us so the referee gave penalty. Or maybe it's just Mourinho effect at Stamford Bridge?

Lampard WAS TERRIBLE. As much as I love him, but it's clearly that we have better player than him in that position. Mikel has been pretty good and should really start ahead of Lampard.

Oscar was decent and I love him winning tackles, but I think we need to give this lad a deserved rest. Mata was pretty good when he came on. Linked up and speed up the pace.

Our fullbacks are not linking well like the past successful season. Remember how Malouda, Lampard and Cole linked up during Ancelotti reign? It was a nightmare for the opponent. During Matteo early reign and Benitez, we then have Hazard, Azpilicueta and Mata linking up very well and create chaos.

We have not seen this much for this season and I wonder is it because Mourinho order our fullbacks to stick to the position and not to bombard too much forward.

Speaking of fullbacks, Azpi did well in defense. but Ivanovic on the other side was awful. I think he had the most touches than any Chelsea attacking player in the first half, but he wasted too much of chances. West Brom knows that our fullbacks can't create anything so they would rather sit back and defend DEEP and NARROW, and waiting the player to send it the cross or cut in.
And obviously, our wingers and fullbacks didn't take advantage on that.

I think West Brom got the tactics nailed on but maybe Hazard punished them for giving him too much of space.

This post has been edited by ericling: Nov 10 2013, 09:29 AM

No offence but it was ramirez who bumped into the wba defender. He was running in a straight line while ramirez was running towards him

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This post has been edited by joe405: Nov 10 2013, 10:49 AM

why need to defend the dive act? just admit it guys. ramires made most of the simulation, and referee fell for it.

why this question come out of nowhere? related to yesterday result?

top of my list are Drogba .. and lazy to think about the rest

Steven Reid clearly knew what he is doing, he should go for the ball instead of running strait line and use his body, Ramires is taking the chance, for me its a soft penalty.

This post has been edited by bennyray: Nov 10 2013, 01:02 PM

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Reff changed his mind in 2sec..just i tot ramires kena yelowkad..

We got martin atkinson n now adam mariner .. woooohoooo...

they should be highly trained for this type of decision, in our view it may not look like a penalty, but in his view it could be. nothings make pundits, and fans "qualify" to comment on those decision (fans are biased all the time). is there any post match clarification by the referee? FA? only referees are paid to judge the situation, they should be able to handle it "professionally". this issue have been raise numerous time yet no concrete decision made by the FA to tackle it.

however, at least he gone down getting "nudge" by opponent, but was it literally a dive? not like those gone down without "contact" at all.

I don't think it was a dive, but it wasn't a penalty either.

This post has been edited by Alexdino: Nov 10 2013, 03:51 PM

Ramires tried to draw a foul from Reid. There was contact, and Ramires went down. Whether that was a foul or not is judged by the referee.
Personally, I think it's a soft penalty. It can be easily given outside the box.

We salvaged a point, but that doesn't change how I feel about the performance. Draw or lost, still disappointed on the result. WBA, however deserved more than a point to be honest.

We didn't manage to create many clear cut chances. WBA defended well and kept the shape organized. But we've been saying that about majority of the opponents we faced in the league. Therefore to be title contenders we shouldn't struggle to play against them. The worse part about the match was the fact even after we managed to get the opening goal, we still went behind.

There is a problem in the team; it's not just a matter of form, or team performance. Something has to change.

Its a penalty.
1. Ramires had the ball under 'control'. Reid never went for the ball.
2. Watch Reid RIGHT shoulder & elbow ACTIVE & swinging out towards Ramires to elbow him away from the ball. Ramires minimized the damage from elbowing nonetheless there was contact.
3. Professional Foul. Those who played football understand what Reid was trying to do. Watch Reid left shoulder dipped subtly for the 'elbowing'.
4. Ref Marriner was right there behind and saw Reid's shoulders & elbow ACTIONS.

Bottom line: Good Penalty Call for catching a professional foul.

we have been struggle play against these type of team this season, well organized, defend and playing for draw. but against open and attacking team, we will be better, looks how we play against MC, spur, aston, and UCL team, we have more freedom and movement, cant wait to see how we play against arsenal and liverpool.

Exactly, even in CL matches we played more convincingly. It's just that most PL teams will tend to defend more against us, we can't rely on them play openly for us to get points. regularly.

to me, it was a dived. player with such body muscle cant be fell down that easily with a soft barge.
thats why I said a successful simulation. and Reid body contact movement made it more realistic.

Exactly, if you play football you should know that was a professional foul, Reid should have go for the ball instead of blocking Ramires, soft penalty

and i also think the status of the player also contribute to the decision making. if let say dat one is hazard not ramires, i dun think we can get the penalty hehe..

Hey guys I wonder what is the cause of the so called "November Curse"?

Could it be

A) Old Guards getting tired?

B) Players getting unhappy

C) Other teams adapted to our playing style...

I don't see any of those 3 relevant, per se.

Heck, this curse is even non-existent!

Yeah, it happened so many times during this November (dang my birthday is in November too lol)

My point is, it's just something we look on to, without any backed up logic behind it.