This thread is dedicated to all Shrimp lover. The most commonly sold freshwater dwarf shrimp in local fish shop are those from the Neocaridina and Caridina family/genus.
Neocaridina type consist of the most common Cherry shrimp, Fire red, Yellow, Blue Jelly, Palmata etc.
Caridina type consist of the Crystal Red/Black shrimp, Green shrimp, Malaya, Sulawesi shrimp, Tiger shrimp etc.

You can house shrimp from different genus in one tank but not shrimp from the same genus else interbreed will occur, result in inferior color especially
in the neocaridina genus.
Sometimes, but not always shrimps with the same genus name will interbreed. example Malaya are known will not interbreed with any shrimp in the hobby.
Feel Free to ask/answer questions , share knowledge and tank picture with us here.

Below is one of my previous tank that house both Neocaridina (Fire Red) and Caridina (Crystal Red Shrimp).
After re scape found 200-300++ fire red in the moss.




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Shrimp Water Paramaters Requirement:
These data just act as a basic references as some shrimps can adapt to different water parameters.
Credit goes to shrimpkeeping.com , full list here ->http://shrimpkeeping.com/water-params/





This post has been edited by arrow: Oct 6 2013, 12:42 AM

Shrimp Tank setup:

1) Basic shrimp tank setup using shirui sand as substrate:


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A simple guide in making for your shrimp some Boiled Organic Spinach.



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Pest / Bug you may encounter In Shrimp Tank

Credit Source: www.plantedtank.net


1) Planaria, flatworms (Dangerous - should be eliminated asap)


Size: 0,3 - 1 cm, 0.1 - 3/8 inches

Non-parasitic flatworms. Crossed-eyed grossness, just pure yucky! The only small creature I dislike (I get shivers down my spine even thinking about them). If you split it, it will regenerate and you will end up having 2 planaria. There seems to be several different colours in the common ones found in aquariums, transparent, white, brown and red. There's actually nothing really horrible about them, but they can bother small shrimp and snails and might eat fish/snail eggs.

They love shrimp pellets, pieces of meat, dead fish/shrimp and they will also eat small live creatures if they can catch them. They move on the surfaces, even under the water surface and are most active by night. If disturbed, they will retract themselves (shorter and wider), let go and drop down to the bottom.


2) Hydra (Dangerous esp to Shrimplet/fish fry- should be eliminated asap)


Size: 0,3 - 1,5 cm, 0.1 - 1/2 inches

Hydra are beautiful, but a wee bit annoying creatures. They spend their life attached to surfaces (plants, glass, filter, decoration), they can move a bit, but usually don't have the need to do that. If disturbed, they will retract their tentacles and body to small buds. They catch small creatures (copepods, Daphnia etc.) with their tentacles which can sting, making it easier for them to haul the pray in to their mouth opening. They pose no threat to adult fish, shrimp or snails (might cause some irritation if they touch the Hydra), but newborn fish and shrimp fry are in danger.

Control - (Use at your own risk) Attach a wire to each pole of a 9 volt battery. Place the ends of the wires into the tank water, as far apart as possible. If the setup is working correctly, a fine stream of bubbles should be seen from one of the wires. The Hydra will start falling after about 20 minutes. The treatment should go no longer than 3 hours, keeping an eye on conditions the whole time. A daily 50% water change for 3 days is recommended since Copper leaches into the tank via one of the wires.

3) Dragonfly (Dangerous - should be eliminated asap)


4) Damselfly (Dangerous - should be eliminated asap)

They use these like spring-loaded catapults to capture their prey at lighting speeds...looks kinda like an arm with mean jaws on the end and the whole contraption is tucked in nicely waiting to pounce...pretty cool...

Dragonfly and damselfly nymphs look rather similar... the main difference is that dragonfly nymphs do not have external gills...while damselfly nymphs do...
So after you look at the mouthpart to determind that it is one of these.. check to see if you can find external gills at the end of the abdomen... if you can.. then its a damselfly nymph..if not, then its a dragonfly nymph..

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you sell moss?or shrimp breeding tube?

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Reserved***Shrimp Acclimating & Food

Reserved******Shrimp Disease

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Reserved for my tank pic!

Early morning you're up reserving a place, Sis?
Btw, is that OEBT in avatar yours?

Should we get a mod to merge this and the previous thread?

Here's a better tank shot with clean pipes



Pics from previous thread:




This post has been edited by GTBlackIce: Oct 2 2013, 09:11 AM

tank pic coming later.

fire red first



This post has been edited by youliang: Oct 3 2013, 11:00 PM

It'll be messed up if mod merges.

Edit: Added tank photo.

My tiny office tank. Increased population and added a floating plant to cope (hopefully) with nitrate removal. The end goal is to have a self sustaining tank like my collegue





This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Oct 2 2013, 11:40 AM

No. its not mine...cant get clear pic of my blue velvet yet....however, got few blue shrimplets around the tank with fire red and yellow...

Oh wow...nice moss.....what is under the moss?

Lol...seems everyone is excited on a new thread & getting our photos up on 1st page hurry up with the pics!

Nice! Finally I could see a shrimp in there!

Best of luck in getting it self sustaining

Oh ok thought you've gone into OEBTs as well now. Future addon perhaps?

Wow you've really got a healthy breeding population in your tanks! Hope mine's that way too soon

Not worried about crossbreeding?

I detect a sarcastic tone there

It's more than one in the pic but crappy camera.

One observation though, when I bought the latest batch... they look relatively decent in the LFS but looking at it in the bag and even until this morning, most of them are quite transparent. Some even look closer to rilis than cherries.

Now it seems some of the color have came back? Is this even possible?

The shrimplets still cant breed....but the blue and yellow in separate breeding tank though in the same tank...
going to do another tank..got leftover of soil.

a bit lo...

Just that your previous shot... really can't see any that's why I'm happy to see it now...hehe...

Yes, I believe that's possible when its stressed out. Saw the same happening to all the shrimps I bought (incl. crs)... heck even the otto I bought turned completely pale like ghost! But all turned out well after some hours or the next day onwards. Nothing to worry about

Yeah, not now but once they mature then there's the possibility. But since you're planning to set up another tank (envy envy) I'm sure you'll get a large colony soon enough. Congrats again!

Have 2ft tanks with cherry and malaya. Seems cherries never stopped breeding. Have about hundreds of shrimplets now with plenty cherry too...Cant wait to see my tank is full with red cherry.
Another 2ft tank is with Fire Red just around 20 with malaya. Plenty shrimplets also maybe around 30 or 40 of fire red and maybe few of blue and yellow. Hanging 2 breeding tank with 3 yellow with golden stripe and 3 blue velvet.
New tank most likely going to be the blue velvet....

im interested with shrimps...which species is good for beginners?

Cherry shrimps

no need chillers and etc? hehe...

as long as your tank is stable.. with a proper filtration.. =) . 28degs ~~ should be fine

Under those moss are driftwood branches, those moss long gone after i re-scape into open concept, as you can see in the picture , shrimplets really
like to hide in those moss, after i clear out the tank, i discover i have 200++ fire red in there. That was 1.5 yrs ago.

Very nice Sis... keep up the great work!

Haha... bro... going into shrimps now too huh? Come come join the club!

Yeah, like what cloveryen mentioned RCS would be any beginner's choice. I took the risk and dived in directly fire reds (still a hardy one but supposedly RCS is easier).

200++ fire reds?! Holy... that's a lot!

No wonder you have enough for sale...

ya lorh..i need another 1ft tank probably for shrimps...hahaha..RCS is easier eh? what happened if my tank reach 30++? all die arh? hahah...

Send some to me...i have 2ft tank... lol

I was wondering how many tanks do you have anyways?

30++ or 300++ ? i once keep 500++ Malaya in an 50cm 57L tank, no problem at all. It depend on your filtration power and provide more o2 when
shrimp population is high, o2 not only for the shrimps but also for the beneficial bacteria in the filter to utilize, healthy and stronger BB to handle the increased bio-load.

This post has been edited by arrow: Oct 2 2013, 05:38 PM

Any alternatives that doesn't require an airpump?

They're too noisy (bubbly) and water splashes for the office environment.

In fact, have, this , Provide O2 with no airpump. Can't find in malaysia, only in singapore. anyway know where to get in Malaysia, let me know.
Link here -> http://www.aquariumoxygenator.com/

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ctrl with valve? still bubbly?

my god...u r truly God of Shrimps....

Well.... one of us here would've misunderstand your meaning of '30++' bro... if you're referring to shrimp load you've had your replies. But if you're referring to temperature... then that might be a different thing altogether. But then again since you have plants I guess you won't let temperature go to that level?

Then again... I might've just misunderstood you...

Err... have more plants? Or alternatively try to have more surface agitation?

I'm only having slight surface agitation from my outflow... but thus far no issues (I hope) on O2 in water... likely coz the plants are still doing a good photosynthesis (riccia especially).

EDIT: OK... posted reply too late as I was engaged in a call. Sifu has spoken....

This post has been edited by GTBlackIce: Oct 2 2013, 05:54 PM

that blue shrimp (avatar) is urs? nice la dat one...

Thanks.. will try to find

Bcos my tank very tiny. Control valve and ceramic airstone still got splash

2 only...might do one 2ft.more for blue velvet and 3ft for malaya...

Nice but i have similar...n expensive too...got 3 only with some shrimplets...

I'm officially launching war with the seed shrimps in my tank. really getting too many already. now manually filtering the "bugs" out and they don't seem to be getting lesser, the next day, a lot back. lol.

Keep us updated on the war status bro.

I'm sure you'll have a lot of 'fun' filtering it out. Good luck!

How to do that?

Wanted to know about it as well, the damn bugs. Currently quarantine container with shrimplets and the bugs. time to move in to bigger tank.

Can invest in this , won't total remove them but will reduce their number significantly
Gush Catch Pen > http://www.gush-aqua.com/product_v.php?g=1&c=0&p=20


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Bought something at fish depot. Only catched few. Some knew its a trap! Damn..lol
Now i only fed them over the leaves of the plant...lol

siphon the bugs that I can see into a container.. then pour the water though the white filter gauze. luckily the gauze actually manage to trap these bugs. then pour it back into the tank. Very time consuming but managed to reduce quite a lot..till the next day when they reproduce again.. and the cycle continues

I tried this during my nematode infestation... continued doing it daily for a week. Caught a gazillion of them but one day don't do.... population goes back to normal.

Maybe use salt?

then how? the only way is to restart the tank?

actually those seed shrimp they help in cleaning up diatoms and unfinished food in your tank,
the only bad thing about them is the ugly look.

Yea they are pretty effective, all the alage near my substrate cleared by them, even now I don't have to scrub my tank walls for a few weeks already still clear thanks to them i guess, clean. But too many of these seed shrimps really look ugly

I restarted but for the wrong reason.... my tank got WMD attacked when office was spraying disinfectant.

End up killing every non-plant living organism in the tank.

What you do every weekend now? without aircond?

Now I turn on the tank fan before leaving the office.... put on my auto top-off contraption and that's it.

Weather getting colder here now so I think this weekend no need to turn on liao.

Do you guys vacuum your gravel/substrate or just leave the shrimp poo to sink and decompose?

I don't vacuum the soil coz if I do the soil gets vacuumed too...

Just let nature takes it's course... since shrimp bioloads are small... the poop even smaller. Still need it to generate BB

Btw, did you have any shrimp casualty today as you think you would? Hope not.

Thanks. Must not be too paranoid then.

So far so good for the tank newbies... all accounted for + 1 successful molt.

Interesting, where you get that genie bottle from ?

Very difficult to.download pic!

i do occasionally , it can be useful during new tank setup by vacuuming to release air bubble form soil.

Do you guys leave the molts in your tank indefinitely or remove them after a while.

leave them there , shrimp will eat them, no harm done.

Same with arrow.... just leave it as it is... before I know it it's gone.

Good source of calcium for those shrimps...

If more than 48 hours and its still there.. keep or remove the residue?

What a sad day. Woke up to find 4 dead Malayan shrimps in my tank, then only realized I forgot to switch on the air pump the night before

You must've been feeding your shrimps too good they don't show much interest in it
There's no harm in letting it be bro... chill...chill... doubt any harm would come from that small shell

Maybe you don't have many shrimps in there hence it's being consumed slowly...

Oh my... sorry to hear that bro.

But, just curious... you turn on air pump every night? I don't have any air pumps whatsoever... just position my outflow pipe high enough to create surface agitation. It's still under the water, not above or mid water level.

I guess with plants in it too... air pump's not required. At least for me...

Only thing is if biofilm develops on the surface I'll just 'clean' it up a bit so the outflow can create vortex again, coz at times I could see quite a lot of CO2 bubbles on the surface.

Beside that. Anything you done to your tank? Co2 on 24hrs?

have a same situation with you, 4 malaya shrimp dead 2 days, but not because i forgotten to switch off the co2, is i increase co2 to kill BBA. Seems i've accidentally increase it too much for the shrimps to take. Fishes are ok...

I need air pumps because bio load in my tank is high as I keep 5 guppies in a 30cm tank and about 8-9 Malayan (totally no idea why everytime I notice fewer and fewer Malayan shrimps )

Haven't noticed any bio film lately

I usually on before lighting period and off after lighting period. Or I'll make sure CO2 indicator turns lime green before turning it off.

IIRC your CO2 indicator is orange in colour right?

Scared of CO2 now!

If 5 guppies in that tank is high bioload, then you've never seen overload the pico tank I had was smaller than yours & had 3.5x more than what you have now (extreme, I know) but those guppies just can't stop breeding!!!

Nothing to be scared of sis...just make sure all is setup properly...then you'd have nothing to worry about

I'm sure most if not all of us here has got CO2 in our shrimp tank(s)...be it liquid or diffused.

Not Orange, is yellow in the morning. lol

Haiyah... I thought this time can have zero casualties when adding new shrimps but one just expired in front of my eyes. It was motionless between rocks for the whole morning then just fell sideways. Was barely alive when I picked it up.

So frustrating, I use drip method to acclimatize for almost 6 hour still like that. I even tested the difference between the water and its just like ~20 TDS different niah... other perimeters same. The bag water got even higher nitrate levels.

Haha... I witnessed similar thing just recently on the CRS. At least yours was barely alive when it was picked up... mine was a total goner...

Wow... you acclimate for a very long time even for RCS! My max thus far was only 3hrs. But of course if I happen to get a more sensitive species I'd likely to acclimate longer. Also doing drip method @ +/-1dps

For me I think sometimes it depends on luck as well... the shrimp may not have been so strong even @ lfs or wherever we buy it. Just tough luck we got a weak one(s) sometimes. Same for my fire reds... got 10... 1 died the next day but the rest are doing well still. Only on malayans did I not encounter any casualty *touch wood*

No choice.. noob like me have to do what it takes to minimize loss. Already loss waaaaay too many shrimps.

But you're right about the LFS thing. Between me and my collegues, we find that the shrimps from those chainstore high volume fish shops have a higher death rate than those ah pek shop. But the ah pek shop's quality quite terrible.

That makes 2 noobs here then...

Yeah, and apart from that... different tanks have different water parameters. So what works on one may not work for all. Oh well... can't help it since we're into this hobby... we chose one that's not easy to rear...

Speaking of which, I'm only feeding half the "recommended dosage" on the label and saturday/sundays are puasa days.

Yeah... that's why its so :

6 hour is way too long. 1-2 is enough unless tds different too wide. For prolong acclimating consider supply o2 to the shrimp be acclimated.
The safer is get shrimp that are already 2 week been in the lfs tank. Any early casautly already occur. What left is mostly the strongest. However shrimp just be snapped too fast by keeper like us.

Last time I don't do so long but casualties alot.

Btw.. this is my nearby chainstore lfs fire red tank... this is only half the tank.

U only have 2 shrimps...nobody else eating them...lol

lol..

Had

Already add liao!

Got more than 2



This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Oct 4 2013, 10:46 PM

where is this shop locate..all LFS at seremban they don't sell bcos no demand..need to go to kl..

Taiwan... sorry.

i thought at malaysia..hahaha..so you are from taiwan or working there?

Been living here for 10 years .

oic..thats nice..got other lfs picture..that picture make me addict

Newbie here, share some of my shrimp tank set up.

Omg......great great..welcome...get stock from shrimp gallery...

Hehe....ok...

Jealous! Gorgeously seductive fire red shrimp!...GT....want to try this out? lol

This post has been edited by lily64my: Oct 5 2013, 10:40 PM

lily , go buy 200 , you will get the same effect, but those are temporary holding tank, you may not know how many are dead everyday before
it sold out at the LFS.

Lol...yes of course the dead ones are not known. I have had big casualty after got it from mr park too..if lesser than 1 ft tank or desk top type can see a lot. My tank is 2ft....i see there are plenty in my cherry tank...easy a hundred but only found them when feeding time. Plenty hiding place. Plenty mossess n plants...
Btw...is fire red shrimplets is lighter red in the beginning?

This post has been edited by lily64my: Oct 6 2013, 09:46 AM

Aiya....now got to start 2 new tanks! Planning to give a nice home for blue velvet and yellow golden back as now their shrimplets are together with fire red too. Only have half bag of ADA soil! If buy another bag...got half bag remaining! i have 1 tank 1ft and 1 tank 2ft..
Need to get soil..filter media..mineral rock mosses....lol..not fun...
I have one tank with orange soil and another with black. 1 bag remaining is black. Not sure which one i should get now?

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