The Shrimp Thing, All About Shrimp - Neocaridina & Others
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 Nov 19 2013, 05:17 PM
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You guys HAVE to congratulate me on this.. I've now got almost the entire collection of known bugs and critters in my small tank.
- seed shrimps --> checked - pest snails --> checked but under control. Occassionally see one. - nematodes --> checked but under control. Occassionally see one. - leeches --> checked - planaria --> checked but relatively under control. - hydra --> LATEST part of the collection  This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Nov 19 2013, 05:18 PM |
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Nov 19 2013, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 19 2013, 05:17 PM) You guys HAVE to congratulate me on this.. I've now got almost the entire collection of known bugs and critters in my small tank. - seed shrimps --> checked - pest snails --> checked but under control. Occassionally see one. - nematodes --> checked but under control. Occassionally see one. - leeches --> checked - planaria --> checked but relatively under control. - hydra --> LATEST part of the collection   wah thats very interesting man! what soil n fert did u used? |
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Nov 19 2013, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(lily64my @ Nov 19 2013, 05:30 PM) wah thats very interesting man! what soil n fert did u used?Admittedly I should've done more cleaning rather than letting all the crap accumulate. Only after noticing that the floating plants grows at a prodigious rate did I start cleaning. Now doing twice a week siphon and manually remove whenever I see a creepy crawly. This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Nov 19 2013, 05:42 PM |
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Nov 19 2013, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 19 2013, 05:17 PM) You guys HAVE to congratulate me on this.. I've now got almost the entire collection of known bugs and critters in my small tank. still got bacteria infection to add in.. ahahahhaha- seed shrimps --> checked - pest snails --> checked but under control. Occassionally see one. - nematodes --> checked but under control. Occassionally see one. - leeches --> checked - planaria --> checked but relatively under control. - hydra --> LATEST part of the collection -Seed shrimp & nematodes - can vacuum substrate to reduce. (harmless but just ugly only) -Planaria & hydra - Just use biochem no-planaria powder , dose 3 days - all settle(confirm), Biochem no-planaria is from Taiwan anyway. -Leeches- No-planaria powder may work. -Pest snails - No-planaria sometime kill them too else get some snail trap to reduce it or employ assassin snail. all those pest come from the plants and shrimp purchase that hitchhiker on the plants and water, nothing to do with your setup unless you use second hand soil. Taiwan imported shrimp here are notorious to giving free planaria pest as bonus. That how i got my first planaria infestation last time. This post has been edited by arrow: Nov 19 2013, 07:22 PM |
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Nov 20 2013, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE(arrow @ Nov 19 2013, 01:06 AM) ADA Tourmaline? if you want to reduce ph the safe and long lasting way, use plant or shrimp soil, if really Tourmaline can reduce ph! how many you need to dose and how long can it last? Actually it was call JBL Tormec Activ, I got the name wrong. I am going to get some CRSs next week, and I am worried they might be dead or infertile because of the PH problem...Unless you are into keeping CRS , no need to worry much about PH especially for neocaridina type shrimp like fire red etc, they only require stable ph of range ph5.5 -8.2. I have seen people on internet said that their CRS breed normally even in PH 7.x tank, but I don't wanna take any chances. Are there any "natural" ways to reduce water ph and has long lasting effect beside using soil and driftwood? I was tempting to use PH down product. |
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Nov 20 2013, 03:56 PM
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Hi guys,
I see that Doom Guy also come to this thread ady... Guess I also gona start playing shrimp... |
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Nov 20 2013, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(bg2014 @ Nov 20 2013, 08:05 AM) Actually it was call JBL Tormec Activ, I got the name wrong. I am going to get some CRSs next week, and I am worried they might be dead or infertile because of the PH problem... although JBL Tormec Activ like sera super peat can reduce ph when use as filter media, it is not a long term solution as it effect only last 3 to 6 mths and there is fluctuation when near end of his lifespan, which make it not that suitable for CRS tank which need constant stable parameter, shrimp soil can provide that stable ph buffering for at least 1 to 2 year. I have seen people on internet said that their CRS breed normally even in PH 7.x tank, but I don't wanna take any chances. Are there any "natural" ways to reduce water ph and has long lasting effect beside using soil and driftwood? I was tempting to use PH down product. Don't ever use Ph down products for shrimp tank especially for crs as this ph down only provide temporary effect. Any fluctuation in water parameter is proven fatal for sensitive shrimp like crs. There is no shortcut in keeping sensitive shrimp like crs. |
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Nov 20 2013, 04:26 PM
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Yo,
Arrow bro, or i should say arrow sifu. I see you pro shrimp breeder... Am reading your threads n pet shop things  Good info, n thanks for sharing. |
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Nov 20 2013, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(qz4eva @ Nov 20 2013, 03:56 PM) Hi guys, Welcome I see that Doom Guy also come to this thread ady... Guess I also gona start playing shrimp...  to shrimping!This post has been edited by lily64my: Nov 20 2013, 05:32 PM |
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Nov 20 2013, 05:14 PM
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Haha...
Thanks bro/sifu... varialmctwist is the doom guy. Always forget his name so call him doom guy... Anyways, Ive ordered some items for my shrimp tank: Gona start this project in mid December like that. 1. 1x1x1ft tank. 2. LED Lights 3. ADA Amazonia soil from my planted tank mix with some new soil. 4. Sponge Filter 5. Marimo ball. 6. Java moss or something. 7. Cube Ceramix houses. 8. Am looking to try Orange Rilli Shrimp. This is my checklist. I guess I am missing some Bacter Bacter right? |
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Nov 20 2013, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(arrow @ Nov 20 2013, 04:23 PM) although JBL Tormec Activ like sera super peat can reduce ph when use as filter media, it is not a long term solution as it effect only last 3 to 6 mths and there is fluctuation when near end of his lifespan, which make it not that suitable for CRS tank which need constant stable parameter, shrimp soil can provide that stable ph buffering for at least 1 to 2 year. Thanks sifu~ XDDon't ever use Ph down products for shrimp tank especially for crs as this ph down only provide temporary effect. Any fluctuation in water parameter is proven fatal for sensitive shrimp like crs. There is no shortcut in keeping sensitive shrimp like crs. Can I buy Amazonia Soil and pour them on top of my current substrate about 1 - 2cm? |
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Nov 21 2013, 07:11 PM
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Hi everyone, I got another questions about shrimps.
It's it true that Red cherry shrimps won't breed in high PH? Or high PH would greatly reduce the productivity of them? And has anyone tried to keep Crystal red shrimps in high PH tank before? Did they thrived? |
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Nov 21 2013, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(bg2014 @ Nov 21 2013, 07:11 PM) Hi everyone, I got another questions about shrimps. Rcs can breed in high ph, in fact im breeding my blue rili in a 1ft tank with ph8.2 with under gravel filter and sponge filter. It's it true that Red cherry shrimps won't breed in high PH? Or high PH would greatly reduce the productivity of them? And has anyone tried to keep Crystal red shrimps in high PH tank before? Did they thrived? Crs is very different. They need special requirements just for them to survive, not to mention breeding them. If you really into crs really need to invest in soil. Ada amazonia soil csn be use. But make sure to throughly cycle it and do few large water change few days apart in 2 werk prior to adding the shrimp. |
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Nov 22 2013, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 19 2013, 05:17 PM) You guys HAVE to congratulate me on this.. I've now got almost the entire collection of known bugs and critters in my small tank. Congratulations bro!!! - seed shrimps --> checked - pest snails --> checked but under control. Occassionally see one. - nematodes --> checked but under control. Occassionally see one. - leeches --> checked - planaria --> checked but relatively under control. - hydra --> LATEST part of the collection   Hope you'll get to eradicate those pest soon... somehow...  QUOTE(qz4eva @ Nov 20 2013, 03:56 PM) Hi guys, 'Doom Guy' ... lol I like that! I see that Doom Guy also come to this thread ady... Guess I also gona start playing shrimp...  QUOTE(qz4eva @ Nov 20 2013, 05:14 PM) Haha... Yes he's the doom guy alright... Thanks bro/sifu... varialmctwist is the doom guy. Always forget his name so call him doom guy... Anyways, Ive ordered some items for my shrimp tank: Gona start this project in mid December like that. 1. 1x1x1ft tank. 2. LED Lights 3. ADA Amazonia soil from my planted tank mix with some new soil. 4. Sponge Filter 5. Marimo ball. 6. Java moss or something. 7. Cube Ceramix houses. 8. Am looking to try Orange Rilli Shrimp. This is my checklist. I guess I am missing some Bacter Bacter right?  As arrow mentioned above... and basically you'll see this pop up very often - 'cycle'. Tank cycling is the most important of all. I used Prodibio Digest to quick-start my cycle. Alternative you can also get the Prodibio Start Up Nano. Some test kits too if you've got the budget? Good luck!  |
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Nov 22 2013, 09:44 AM
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I am very interested to start a shrimp tank. Unfortunately, too many resources i read, and it make me confuse.
Humbly, i would like to ask shifus to advise me what i should have to start it. no idea on the budget, bcz 1st time. Hope to get a very clear info in here..sobz... |
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Nov 22 2013, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(qz4eva @ Nov 20 2013, 05:14 PM) Haha... Thanks bro/sifu... varialmctwist is the doom guy. Always forget his name so call him doom guy... Anyways, Ive ordered some items for my shrimp tank: Gona start this project in mid December like that. 1. 1x1x1ft tank. - ok 2. LED Lights - ok 3. ADA Amazonia soil from my planted tank mix with some new soil. - ok (cycle and large water to cllear out excess nutrient) 4. Sponge Filter - good 5. Marimo ball. - good to the eyes but not that suitable as they like high ph water) 6. Java moss or something. - grow more of it. Shrimp like and use them as hiding spot and feeding field. 7. Cube Ceramix houses. - ok 8. Am looking to try Orange Rilli Shrimp. - orange rili not begineer shrimp. This is my checklist. I guess I am missing some Bacter Bacter right? |
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Nov 22 2013, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(william1120 @ Nov 22 2013, 09:44 AM) I am very interested to start a shrimp tank. Unfortunately, too many resources i read, and it make me confuse. The uncle fish shop fella always say... you can do it expensively or you can do it cheaply. Humbly, i would like to ask shifus to advise me what i should have to start it. no idea on the budget, bcz 1st time. Hope to get a very clear info in here..sobz... |
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Nov 22 2013, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 22 2013, 10:22 AM) The uncle fish shop fella always say... you can do it expensively or you can do it cheaply. Well you always start cheap and before you know it it starts getting more and more expensive... william... you can use qz4eva's list as a guidance for a simple setup. Or perhaps if you can state your approximate budget the it would be easier to make recommendation. Also, it depends on what shrimps you'll like to have eventually. Cost can/would increase as time goes on..... well at least for me it did... Good filtration is of course, important. The key is more on taking care of the water parameters than your fauna itself... |
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Nov 22 2013, 10:35 AM
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filteration: Hang on back filter 2biji (forget how many litre/hr, but its big)
problem is: some said need to put the powder before apply the soil. some say no need. then some say can use normal sand, some say use gravel, and some say use soil for shrimps. so blur now. and as the question wht shrimps to keep, any recommendation with a room temperature about 27~! |
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Nov 22 2013, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(HuorEarfalas @ Nov 20 2013, 12:37 PM) u beli apa until 4k expenses? House ke? any house loan minus the interest should be seen as a saving, not expenditure QUOTE(william1120 @ Nov 22 2013, 10:35 AM) filteration: Hang on back filter 2biji (forget how many litre/hr, but its big) Red cherry should be fine.problem is: some said need to put the powder before apply the soil. some say no need. then some say can use normal sand, some say use gravel, and some say use soil for shrimps. so blur now. and as the question wht shrimps to keep, any recommendation with a room temperature about 27~! Start with some java moss and maybe a few anubias nana. I've always used ADA soil, no regrets there. |
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