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 Proton PrevĂ© V19, Welcome our brother Suprima S

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danabu
post Oct 28 2013, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 28 2013, 08:34 PM)
I enquired directly to Kristof of Punch Powertrain about the improvements on the VT3. My questions were forwarded to his colleague Fikeri Yusof. the following is the email exchange.

Although the VT3+ is currently implemented on the Suprima and Preve LE only, future Preve models will adopt it as well. Something for future Preve owners to look forward to.
There was a couple of intermediate email exchange but due to irrelevance I will omit them here. The next relevant email is below
So as you guys can see the improvements is not only software, but also the mechanical parts. Kudos to the team for answering my questions so thoroughly when other carmakers will probably shrug me off.

Goes to show Proton is not ready to rest on it's achievement with the CFE+CVT powertrain design.
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Any news when will normal Preve CFE come with VT3+??
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post Nov 8 2013, 11:16 PM

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No news on normal Preve CFE come with VT3+??
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post Nov 8 2013, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Nov 8 2013, 11:30 PM)
I just quoted it just now. Tak pe , I quote for you again.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Sorry.. don really get u. U did quote me? blush.gif
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post Nov 8 2013, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Nov 8 2013, 11:39 PM)
ya. The photo with the link i quoted were regarding to the updated Preve information. The newly update Preve will comes with VT3+ and 6 airbags . The main thing is, the price remains the same.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Because the list got no mention on VT3+.

That is good news for the buyers.
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post Dec 3 2013, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Dec 3 2013, 03:12 PM)
So the public rather car makers don't add value to the cars for no added cost to the customer? It's good that the manufacturer puts in their commitment to improve right? There has been a lot of blame on Proton for adding more features, demanding for explanation and refund/upgrade, as if Proton is at fault. Generally the public is at benefit
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This is malaysian mindset. A car maker that using the same engine and gearbox for 3 generation and with 3rd world safety feature has the best resale value. And worst, some of the end users pay RM70k for 2nd hand also bangga like having god car....... rclxub.gif

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post Dec 14 2013, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 14 2013, 02:37 AM)
Tonite rode shotgun on mengsuan's Preve LE. As a passenger, I feel the power delivery is more similiar to Suprima S than the current/older Preve.

Didn't test drive though, so no comments on the throttle behaviour. So if you plan to get the Preve soon, make sure it comes with the VT3+ CVT.

Anyway, to identify the 5-star ANCAP Preve, look for the Airbag wording on the interior plastic trim on the A, B and C pillar.
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Considering to buy a new car in Q1-2014. But how to confirm VT3+ inside?? I don think p1 will make is very clear as the current owner will vmad.gif .....

and majority of the Sales Adviser is not technically known on the car.

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post Dec 14 2013, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 14 2013, 11:43 AM)
I forgot to take a look at his chassis number plaque last nite....maybe it's stated on it?

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Do you mean those normal CFE after Preve LE will be VT3+ inside?
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post Dec 14 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 14 2013, 04:29 PM)
I'm not sure if the normal Preve produced concurrent with the Preve LE or the batches immediately after Preve LE will have it, if not it is definitely in the works, according the Kristof of Punch Powertrain
Maybe allenultra have the latest answer to this question.
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Thanks dares smile.gif
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post Dec 29 2013, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(terryble @ Dec 29 2013, 12:00 AM)
I thought we have mentioned a trillion times already~~NO!! the ANCAP (6 airbag) Preve does NOT comes with VT3+ only the standard version of VT3~~the VT3+ (plus) only on the limited edition (i.e. Preve LE) >.<

Again VT3+ is an upgraded version of gearbox only for Suprima and Preve Limited Edition~~NONE other Preve variant to date has VT3+ (plus, the improved version)~

but confirmed EVP is available for the ANCAP version
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Many stories on VT3+ smile.gif Myself is also considering to buy car next year...

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3071070/+40
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post Dec 29 2013, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 28 2013, 08:48 PM)
Most SA doesn't even know the existence of the VT3+, as far as they know the Suprima gearbox is the same as the previous Preve.

Proton marketing continues to fail doh.gif
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I can think some reasons P1 does not want to disclose this or disclose this so early are:

1, They really failed in marketing. (which I always agree biggrin.gif )
2, Worried current owner claim CVT down and request upgraded VT3+.
3, Consider the 4 airbeg verson old stock need to clear.
4, To make Suprima and Preve LE look special.

But I do believe it is not wise for P1 to actually maintaining VT3 and VT3+ since both sales volume is not high. Really no point to keep both and VT3 still got some known weakness.



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post Dec 31 2013, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Dec 31 2013, 05:03 PM)
Can i ask that VT3+ apply to non-cfe version?
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em I don think so since VT3(+) is design to support higher torque. If not mistaken, non cfe is using IAFM+ with VT2.

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