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David_77
post Dec 26 2016, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(lamode @ Sep 30 2013, 03:53 PM)
Before I start, let's have this thread focus on strategies n methods instead of bashing others, I'm sure there are other taikor, leng lui, leng chai and smarter people with better strategy out there.  nod.gif

Saw some comments @ MOVE TO COOL OFF PROPERTY INDUSTRY COULD BACKFIRE, so let me share mine in here since I am 25 and I believe in knowledge sharing.

2007  - I had my first fulltime job when I was 19 with about 2k+ package in IT industry, renting room here n there. Prior to that I was a student with about 3 years exp in FX trading and fundamental of investment, played it on my own free time as an interest n source of money.

2009 - close to 3k package. I had enough of renting, after few month of searching, i bought my first property, a 3 rooms condo in cheras @ 210k. It wasn't easy to get a loan from bank, but it was do-able and I did it.  I used my savings + money from investment n trading + loan from my mother + loan from bank. Moved in with minimal reno n basic Cavenzi furniture, rented out the master room n mid sized room...

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2010 - Bought second property, 1120 Park Avenue, it was the HOT n affordable, so called high end flat at 265k. I shared name with my brother as we both wanted to invest, but lack of cash & borrowing capability, by joint name, we secured the loan. btw, we applied few banks, only one approved.

At the same time, I realized that I had to somehow increase my income to increase my borrowing capacity. Took some professional certs n started to job hop, by the end of 2011, my package was around 5k.

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2012 - Getting some side incomes, played around with 0% credit card balance transfer etc etc, nothing much to shout.

2013 - This is the year of reaping of what was sow rclxms.gif
- Planned to refinance my first condo, as the bank valuation is ~360k, but decided against it due to failed to get a loan with early exit penalty waiver.
- 1120 PA is completed, before the VP, I sold the unit to my bro at about 380k (market price was about 400k at that time tho), we will sort out the paperwork next year. He then rented out with our names in tenancy agreement.
- Just before CNY, I bought two units of SOHO in Cyberjaya, for a total of around 550k under commercial title. Managed to get loan by standard income docs, tenancy agreements and some FD certs.
- With package close to 5 figures. Now looking at EkoCheras which is less than 5 mins walk from my condo, the project priced at ~750k, hopefully it works out fine smile.gif
- For a better or worse future, now my debt exceed 1M, and for greater good, it might be 2M in 2014.

2014 - Refinanced at the first condo since bank value it at 480k.

2015 - Unloading and loading this year.
- Loaded 2 units Nidoz by Exsim in AUG, loan settled, SNP target End of DEC.
- Sold the first condo in OCT.

Think positive, learning, planning and actions are main drivers in my life over the years.  icon_rolleyes.gif

Prop   Location Purchase YR Sell-off YR
Awana Puri Condominium KL 2009 2015
1120 Park Avenue Condominium PJ  2010 2013
HYVE SOHO (2 units) Cyberjaya  2013 2016
Nidoz Condominium (2 units) KL 2015 N/A
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Good work! Hope you don't mind I use yours as basis for my strategy? 👍

David_77
post Dec 26 2016, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(BeastB @ Dec 26 2016, 01:42 PM)
Would've done better just holding on to them for longer. Seems like a lot of trouble to me, this strategy is like trading stocks. Except there are many other transaction costs to go through and not worth the hassle.

I bought my first prop at 24, 2nd at 25....just sold first one 6 months ago after holding for 6 years for gain of about 70% ROI not including any rental returns. 2nd one still holding since rental is good and area has potential.

Are you completely in the property game? If so, then your strategy is good but try to diversify a bit...property is not always up as you can see these days. They say 'diversifying is for ppl who don't know what they're doing' which is true to an extent....so its best to be good at at least 2 investment vehicles. Commodities? Stocks? Whichever you're more comfortable with. I stick to property as my medium/long term investments (5y holding period at least), commodities also medium/long term (physical silver bars, gold trading long term strategy) and 3-4 European/American stocks on my watchlist.

I feel putting everything into property is heading for a big problem sometime in the future, you never know when property is no longer a viable option. Especially with how developers are just building building building all over any free space, since the governments are getting a nice commission out of everything they dont give a damn about oversupply.
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This post I like. Laying down the reasons of your thinking.

For me, I'm heavy in properties because
1. I failed in stocks, big time
2. I don't get much results in unit trusts
3. Other investment types (option, forex, the sophisticated type) I have the gut of ayam 😅

Reason for 1 and 2 was due to itchy fingers, i.e needing to keep trading (kena burned big time).

My first property (not the one I am occupying) was make not really for investment reason but to stop me from quitting my job (yeah, it's kind of funny looking at it now). Good thing was that I did proper research, so even though the headline showed property was down, if I were to sell it now, my ROI is expected to be 55%. Not fantastic but considering I bought at the peak 2013, I'll take it).

So it's going back to each investor's purpose and with due diligence and foundation (I have a 25 months worth of emergency fund), am sure everyone who takes calculated steps will be in better position.
David_77
post Dec 26 2016, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(lamode @ Dec 26 2016, 09:26 PM)
bought around 435 psf and sold around 595.
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Do you have a target before letting go? Or rather, what are the factors?
David_77
post Dec 26 2016, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Asali @ Dec 26 2016, 10:56 PM)
I want to point out is that neither u r 1st or 2nd batch. I just want to says good luck to flipper.
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Any reason for the attack?

 

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