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 The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.22, NEW RUMORE Nikon DF!

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gunzerdude
post Oct 12 2013, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 12 2013, 04:22 PM)
Alright, so to cut it short, since I'm tight on budget, I think stick to D3200 comparing to D5200. I Google around I found that most of them compare D3200 to the Canon 600D, so this question would be just like Asus vs Lenovo brand. One thing makes me choose D3200 is, I heard you guys said that, there is a Beginner mode? so is there a similar feature in 600D too?

So, another question is, instead of picking the right DSLR(body), I should learn more how to shoot good photo and invest on good lens, right? hmm.gif

Ps. What other extra accessories I should buy for beginner? extra battery? what lens I should pick for beginner?
normally seller free memory card & bag or not? what is the common price selling now for the D3200 and 600D?
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If budget tight, go straight for D3100, save money for additional lenses. nuff said thumbup.gif
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post Oct 13 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 13 2013, 02:39 AM)
Aww...

Now I shorten the pick list of either pick below:

1) Nikon D3100
(because of cheap selling price now due to tight budget, someone I'm beginner to learn DSLR)
2) Nikon D3200
(slightly better than D3100 and a lot of positive review among 3 here but I still affordable to top-up)
3) Canon 600D
(I like the way holding it and the physical button layout, and I have more friend using Canon brand DSLR, since I can borrow lens or advice from them) So headache... hmm.gif
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Just go for the camera that feels the best to you. Since your friends using canon and you personally like the design elements of their bodies, I'd say go for it. Otherwise you'll end up like silverfire who's jumping to 5D3 for the button layout (only part of the reason la laugh.gif )
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post Oct 13 2013, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 13 2013, 12:27 PM)
silverfire sifu got girlfriend(s) using Canons?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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brows.gif I'll let him answer that himself laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Oct 13 2013, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 13 2013, 05:58 PM)
Please C&C... Still new into macro tongue.gif

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Snail by Pro3363, on Flickr
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Just change perspective can already thumbup.gif

This photo isn't about what's in focus and what's not, perspective is important even in macro, try to get down to their level instead of photographing them from above.

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post Oct 13 2013, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Oct 13 2013, 09:40 PM)
Tralala~ Just like a pro! Mintak pencerahan dari segi equipment boleh, boss? brows.gif
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Equipment not important lah. Just how willing you are to get the shot only.

tanji can get amazing shots with just a 50mm 1.8G + extension tubes, so no excuse to rely on better equipment unless you got specific reasons lah brows.gif brows.gif
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post Oct 13 2013, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Oct 13 2013, 09:46 PM)
Boss, extension tube is for what purpose ehh, boss?

You guys are really willing to splash the cash for lenses. Usually you all buy brand new ones or used ones?
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eh? noneed big capital for basic macro la dude laugh.gif

50mm 1.8D (RM200+ used)

Auto extension tubes (RM200+ also)

Extension tubes is used to move the lens further away from the camera body, increasing the native magnification of the lens.

Google if you want detailed photos and explaintion thumbup.gif
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post Oct 13 2013, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(gnome @ Oct 13 2013, 09:53 PM)
Went to KLPF earlier today and managed to get a chance to test a few lenses and body. Tested Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 and its really good i must say. Solid build quality with awesome optical performance. Got to try Sigma 35mm F1.4 aswell and wow this really the racunsssss laugh.gif

So anyways here's a related pic

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Taken with 35mm F2D tough and yes i know pic is noisy, old camera mah sad.gif
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Eh I just got this lens also (35 F2D) thumbup.gif

Rotating my kit to prepare for a FX body in the future biggrin.gif
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post Oct 13 2013, 10:07 PM

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Spending more money on photography is just you succumbing to your gear lust only laugh.gif (Not that I'm free of it lah, I'm upgrading to FX what brows.gif)

But yeah, 400+ for an autofocusing macro set that can reach lifesize is one of the cheapest combo you can get.

QUOTE(gnome @ Oct 13 2013, 10:02 PM)
Once you tried the new sigma 35mm 1.4 for sure you feel like wanna change. well i did laugh.gif
She's okay what, i'd say one of the cutest today. too skinny also not nice la tongue.gif
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I already used quite a few times before since silverfire has it before he jumped to canon laugh.gif

For a 2.5K lens it had better be good whistling.gif whistling.gif In fact it's better than both canon and nikon's own F/1.4 versions

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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Oct 13 2013, 10:09 PM)
Bro, takdak reply my question ke?  cry.gif
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Which Q? Lol sorry, I'm programming atm while browsing here, abit distracted sweat.gif

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post Oct 13 2013, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Oct 13 2013, 09:58 PM)
What kind of lens is suitable for macro photography? Is there any special signs? Like if the lens has a constant focal length, it is a sign of a prime lens, this kind of signs?

Macro photography sounds very interesting indeed. thumbup.gif
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Normally macro lenses have the words macro included with their specifications, but not all lenses are true macro ones lah.

Most macro lenses are primes, rarely are there zoom designs that can reach true macro ranges.

True macro lenses can reach lifesize magnification AKA 1:1. Just look for this denomination if you're looking for a true macro lens.

But really, for starters, just stick to the 50mm+extension can d. icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 13 2013, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Oct 13 2013, 10:20 PM)
Here got so many sifus, why wanna trouble Uncle Google?  laugh.gif

So in other words, any primes can be considered macro lens if their apertures are big? Sounds easy enough...  icon_idea.gif
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Google can give you instant answer la instead of waiting for us to do it laugh.gif

LOL, no, big apertures don't represent macro lenses.

Like I said, just look for 1:1 magnification, this alone will be enough to tell you that the lens is a true macro

For examples:

Tamron AF 60mm f/2.0 SP DI II LD IF 1:1 Macro Lens

Tamron AF 90mm f/2.8 Di SP A/M 1:1 Macro Lens

Nikon AF-S VR Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8G (Nikon's 1:1 representation is the word "MICRO")
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post Oct 14 2013, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(QiAnG @ Oct 14 2013, 12:06 AM)
Elo bro, how close do you have to be with your target with 50 1.8 and et mounted on?
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The distance between the front of the lens and the subject is a couple inches only sweat.gif

Another reason for getting a real macro lens is the increased working distance lah.

This should be able to illustrate the relationship between focal length and working distance

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QUOTE(silrave @ Oct 14 2013, 02:41 AM)
all si fu i wanna ask something is why today try take pic of my family member right i put P mode and take those pic bit dark
i try set iso to 1500-2000 also same ?
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Are you taking photos of your family outdoors? If so then it's because your camera is seeing too much light in the background, hence the underexposure.

Use this button to dial in exposure compensation ("+" to make the photo brighter, "-" to make the photo darker)

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post Oct 14 2013, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Oct 14 2013, 02:57 AM)
lol
i think put p mode just tune the iso only
i tune few times keep on fail
then change to potrait and landscape
take till nice nice ^^
o O exposure
learn a new thing ^^
like water right i put shutter setting i put 1/100 iso to 1000-2000
i set the pic wont too bright but.....
i go upload pic ^^
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It's not just ISO you have to worry about, changing the ISO to higher or lower values only compensates for the amount of light in a scene (so that the shutter speed is high enough to prevent blurring).
It still does not affect the camera's decision to take a brighter or darker photo.

The exposure compensation buttons is how you "tell" the camera that you want the photo to be brighter or darker.

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 14 2013, 08:02 AM)
You might need teach him to use metering as well XD
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He is a real newbie to this la, so one step at a time sweat.gif

QUOTE(jepertine90 @ Oct 14 2013, 11:31 AM)
I want to ask is a multi coated UV filter important??

I was told in the other day in some shop, that without that the sensor will be damaged.. also the UV coat on the lens will wore off easily.

Told by a sales person who claim himself 7 years experience in photo-shoot.

totally have no knowledge on UV filter.. any sifu can enlighten me?
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This is just sales tactic to tipu you into getting an expensive accessory, the UV filters in most shops have one of the highest profit margins, hence the encouragement by salespeople to get you to buy them.

A filter is mostly just there for protection against direct impact to the front element, while specialized filters like circular-polarizers and neutral density types are for certain types of photography uses.

Higher quality UV filters won't degrade your photo but personally I haven't seen a massive difference between a RM20 and a RM200 one yet (both multicoated btw).

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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Oct 14 2013, 11:42 AM)
full frame?  blink.gif
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Yes full frame nod.gif
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post Oct 14 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Oct 14 2013, 12:21 PM)
Yeah, the Sigma is slightly sharper than the Nikon wide open but in terms of bokeh produced, some prefer Nikon's smoother rendition.

No idea on Canon's one though. If I'm not wrong, Canon's version came out first very long time ago. Mark II should be in the works. Same like their 24mm f/1.4.
The world's first macro zoom lens...

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Though a very old lens design and not truly 1:1 lens, it's design truly put Nikon ahead at that time.
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Yeah, bokeh part nikon/canon smoother since sigma's optical designs produces onion bokeh for some reason hmm.gif

But that is really nitpicking lah, you won't notice unless you're a photographer also.

Of all macro lenses I only want two:

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One for working distance and another for ultra-high magnification

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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Oct 14 2013, 01:58 PM)
My partner has the MPE65... is very hard to use. hahah I only try it once
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QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 14 2013, 02:07 PM)
My friend has the 200mm... brows.gif
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Wah, bloody hell, I jelly brows.gif

My 90mm can do both lah, just need to add on extension tubes+teleconverter to make it go to 5x only laugh.gif

Can't beat the 200mm for working distance though, love the feel of the lens wub.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Oct 14 2013, 02:49 PM)
learn to use the exposure compensation and metering mode. the default matrix metering will always "see" the whole scene and decide the exposure balance, and backlight scene will guarantee to be overexposed.

you can either +0.7 ~ +1.0 ev, or use center/spot metering where it'll only achieve balance exposure on the center portion, or the area within the spot if you choose in spot metering mode.

however, if you shoot backlight scene, you'll need to over expose the background, means you won't be able to see anything on the background if overexposed too much. alternatively, use a flash to "fill" or light up the subject, hence it's called "fill flash".

if want to shoot silky water trails, use slow shutter speed like 1/10 (usually 0.5 sec or longer), but will guarantee some blurred image cause not possible to achieve perfect sharpness due to handheld - people usually use tripod. if want to freeze the water movement, need to use fast shutter speed - use S mode, set the shutter speed you want, and let the camera do the rest...
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Too much jargon and information for a newcomer to process lah sweat.gif

Like I said, one step at a time lol, he already pushed us to V22 because you guys keep overloading him with more info than he really needs. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 14 2013, 03:12 PM)
Back then I used Kenko (also known as Hoya) single coat on my 18-105, getting shit load of flare contributed by filter as compared to Hoya HD/B+W XS-Pro/B+W XS-Pro Nano at the moment.

My view is, either you go commando, or get a quality filter.
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Oh yeah, flare performance is one of the main differences lah. Forgot to mention laugh.gif
But better quality ones like JYC PRO1-D which costs around 50bucks can already match the flare performance of B+W filters, tested side by side brows.gif

Can see the cheaper quality filter's coatings are quite dull, while higher quality coatings have a glossy sheen similar to the coatings on the actual lenses themselves.

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