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post Oct 10 2013, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Oct 10 2013, 08:06 PM)
haha XD
so just stick with the P and start shoot?
lol i try few pic nice may be need to go some nice environment only can start take new pic XD
change back to jpeg first XD
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Yes, shoot with P first since you are still very new nod.gif

And try shooting out in the sun (7-9am or 5-7pm are very good times for good photos), your photos will be better, with less tendency to become blurred.
With P mode, you will notice your photos will mostly be blurred under dimmed conditions (indoors/night shooting etc.), its normal.

From there you will notice that the DSLR is pretty "stupid" in P mode, enticing you to jump to S (shutter speed) or A (aperture) modes or even manual if you are a very fast learner haha XD but those are one or a few level up haha, don't worry about that 1st icon_rolleyes.gif

And yes, shoot in JPEG 1st, until you have some clue on what is post-processing haha!

Share your photos, and keep photos that you think are very good at that particular point in time. One day you will look back at them and feel nostalgic (and will probably laugh at yourself), its a very fun process, so remember to enjoy it thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Oct 10 2013, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(Reckoning @ Oct 10 2013, 09:16 PM)
haha  laugh.gif true. very heavy. but recently i went to a trip. i brought a cheap mirrorless cam. portable. but the iq. focus was awful. went back to malaysia, saw the pics. disappointed.

maybe my next trip to dubai this jan, i will try bring my d700 grip and 24-70mm. see how it goes. or myabe if i have my money, buy a 28mm and go with 28mm and 50mm only
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Curious, which cheap mirrorless you bought? hmm.gif
Recent cheap ones like the NEX3n can really perform very well in terms of IQ and noise performance; sometimes even better than my previous D90 I think. Time flies!

Wah, Dubai is very beautifullei!!
Looking forward to your photos brows.gif brows.gif
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post Oct 11 2013, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Oct 11 2013, 12:03 AM)
If I want a stylish compact camera, I think I will buy this. biggrin.gif, cheaper than DSLR. laugh.gif
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Awww.. so cute laugh.gif
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post Oct 11 2013, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 11 2013, 12:47 AM)
Nikon 1AW1?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Oct 11 2013, 01:42 AM)
Yeap, this would be the best underwater cam atm since noneed for bulky case. Just grab the camera and dive biggrin.gif
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Well, its pretty much the only one that doesn't need a casing haha XD
Sure expensive like hell laugh.gif

Anyone wants to try changing lens underwater miahahahaha XD

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post Oct 11 2013, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Oct 11 2013, 12:54 PM)
Hi, all.

Can you guys please give me advice on which camera to have? D7100 or D90?

And what about lenses? Is it advisable to get 18-70 and 70-200 or one shot 18-200?

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Or 18-105 and 105-300?
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The D90 is a bit too old tech for the price, not recommended laugh.gif
The D7100, on the other hand, is very new, but still quite similar in terms of performance (for normal photography) to its predecessor the D7000; get that one instead since its much cheaper. Leaving you with more money for other stuffs i.e. lenses, accessories etc.

If you are still new, just stick to the 18-105mm kitlens nod.gif
With its wide focal length and decent image quality, it will expose you to the fundamentals of photography, as well as different genre of photography e.g. landscape, portrait, nature, "macro" etc. After you have used the 18-105mm kitlens for some time, you will eventually know which genre of photography you like the most, and from there only you invest in better lenses specific for it icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(bb100 @ Oct 11 2013, 01:04 PM)
BOKEH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO BEAUTIFUL BOKEH!!!

How to make those bro??? Need very large aperture?
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Haha, thanks man, just the blings on my old notebook laugh.gif

In general, you will get more/better background bokeh by:
1) Using larger aperture (lower F value)
2) Focusing your main subject as close as you can i.e. minimum distance where the focusing still works icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 11 2013, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 11 2013, 01:45 PM)
D7100 is a huge leap compare to D90  tongue.gif

checked your post, seems like you never have DSLR before, i suggest get a body + kit lens good enough, after that you slowly will find what you need afterwards,  tongue.gif
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Yaya, listen to agito666 sifu rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Oct 11 2013, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(jepertine90 @ Oct 11 2013, 02:08 PM)
I start shoot with P last month, now I'm on Aperture mode.. take step slowly.. smile.gif
I totally can't function M mode now.. much to understand on the lightning condition.. tongue.gif
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Take it slow bro haha, these things cannot rush one laugh.gif
I shot in P mode for quite a long time before jumping to M haha, and I was totally confused that time too XD

Like what agito666 sifu mentioned, M mode is more for playing with lighting. I didn't understand this until very recently. Before this I was wondering why we even need to shoot in M mode when there's A mode LOL XD

Then I noticed many Westerners or pro strobists love to take artistic photos with little light, but ALOT of shadows, that's where M mode comes in since at that mode, the camera doesn't keep on wanting to properly expose the photo for you icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 11 2013, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 11 2013, 03:03 PM)
Hi, everyone here, any Sifu here can recommend me what camera I should buy? I wanted to start learn take good photo as hobby, but I'm new to photography. So any model you guys can recommend to buy? I prefer some basic which is no need to change lens, so that I can learn toward more before I move to the next level. Budget would be start from 1.5k and 2.5k range. smile.gif
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How about a Sony RX100 ii? brows.gif brows.gif
http://www.sony.com.my/product/dsc-rx100+ii

Or if want something cheaper, than the earlier Sony RX100 icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 11 2013, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 11 2013, 03:36 PM)
Welcome...
BTW, anyone here using Wacom tablets for editing? icon_question.gif
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I have a Wacom tablet but for drawing only laugh.gif
For me, the mouse is still faster to use, and quite accurate with auto-masking thumbup.gif
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post Oct 11 2013, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Oct 11 2013, 05:47 PM)
What if I buy both the 18-55 and 18-105 to add to my current 70-300? Does it sound silly? blush.gif
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Yes laugh.gif
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post Oct 11 2013, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 11 2013, 05:51 PM)
i want see your drawings  brows.gif
i want sexy one, not the watermark you draw  tongue.gif
show me show me  drool.gif
ya... unless you know what lens you will be using...

like PFTJ he got 24-70 and 50mm f/1.8.... it is overlap as well but 50mm f/1.8 can use for casual walking and light weight traveling..

so ya... if you unclear about that then i consider that is silly. tongue.gif
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Aiyo, my drawings cannot compare to yours at all sifu notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

My 1st drawing with the Wacom:
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Special Moments biggrin.gif by PF T.J., on Flickr

That girl is using a Nikon D3200, so still not off topic I hope tongue.gif
Drew too detailed already, even at 100% "crop" still detailed as hell doh.gif

Sexy ones cannot upload later I get permaband XD

Yeah, thanks to the 50mm F1.8 I was able to curi shoot a few sexy bars at Patong, Phuket lol
I also use the 50mm for better bokeh in tight spaces, and also macro shots, otherwise I would've sold it, love it so much wub.gif

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post Oct 12 2013, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(xeNOS @ Oct 12 2013, 12:15 AM)
to all sifus out there... jz wanna ask... i jz came bek from surveying shops in lowyat plaza for Nikon D3200 + Kit Lens VR 18-55 set

cheapest i found thus far was RM1600 comes with:

8GB SDHC
Bag
Tipod
D3200 body
VR 18-55 lens

shop owner claims that its ori Nikon Malaysia set, but i haven check the cam. what do i need to take note before buying ? is there a way to differentiate between new and refurbished ? hope to hear from you guys soon.

btw, fotokem and koolstuff on ground floor is going for RM1699. but no tripod included.

and is Desa Home Theater a reputable dealer ? tq!

cheers !
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If you take a look at the 1st post of this thread, you will notice it saying that original Nikon cameras will have the prints "NIKON MALAYSIA SDN. BHD" on the warranty card nod.gif

Just try and play around with the camera and make sure everything is working (they usually do) and that there are no physical defects.
Try taking a few photos as well, if there are any "Err" warnings shown on the screen, then return immediately.
Most of the time it should be alright one happy.gif
If you are worried about getting used unit, can request to check for shutter count too~
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post Oct 12 2013, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 12 2013, 12:23 AM)
Is that an entry-level dslr? I'm looking some entry-level dslr to start learn shooting. sweat.gif
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Hey man, nice to see you here brows.gif
Eh? I thought you were looking for cameras that are not-lens interchangeable? laugh.gif
Yeah, the D3100/3200/5100/5200 are entry level cameras, good for beginners since the interfaces are made in such a way that they are easier to understand thumbup.gif
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post Oct 12 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 12 2013, 01:51 AM)
Actually I really went to Sony shop today and look for RX100 but the boss over there said RX100 no longer sell, only RX100 v2, then the boss recommend me buy so len interchangeable one for more future proof. lol laugh.gif So now came check out nikon/canon/sony between this 3 brand got which best buck for entry level dslr tongue.gif

what are the different between "Compact Interchangeable-Lens Cameras" and "Digital SLRs"?
I read an article here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2369450,00.asp
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Mirrorless cameras, as the name suggest, does not have a mirror which reflects what the lens "see" and showing it to the user through an optical viewfinder. Because of that, they can be designed and built in a much smaller profile unlike DSLRs. With that, you get a lot more portability at a minor expense in terms of ergonomics and comfort, a compensation many are willing to make nod.gif

So I guess it all depends on you, if you like to keep things simple and light when you go out, then its definitely a mirrorless camera for you. Go for the ones with larger sensors like the NEX series for better performance icon_rolleyes.gif

If you are looking for a beginner level DSLR, then its usually: Nikon D3200/D5100, Canon 600D/650D, Sony a58 to consider icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Oct 12 2013, 10:34 AM)
Nope, I am a newbie. So thought of exploring the available focal lengths to know more about my photography preference.  blush.gif

Any advice? notworthy.gif
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My advice is, save the money laugh.gif
18-105mm is good enough for you to learn~
Save the money for the next lens (which will undoubtedly be more expensive) after you are done familiarizing with the kitlens haha XD
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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Oct 12 2013, 10:45 AM)
So your advice is get the 18-105 and forget about 18-55, 18-70 and 18-135?

But the 18-70 comes with a metal mount. So tempting.  drool.gif
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Most beginners started with 18-55 I suppose haha XD
18-105mm is already a relative luxury~

I started off with a 18-105mm, and managed to try alot of things with that lens alone nod.gif
Some might say the kitlens is not very sharp, but with a little bit of pp, that can be easily rectified laugh.gif

Its not until 1 year later that I get a 50mm prime brows.gif
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 12 2013, 12:07 PM)
oh man, that was nightmare for me. sweat.gif
it was like my first time bought my desktop/laptop 5years ago.
Hmm... I think stick with Nikon since here Nikon community more than Canon, easier to ask for help in the future.
I guess Sony Nex series is small compact len interchangeable type, while the below the Nikon model I talking about is normal DSLR(entry type), right? flex.gif

So few question in my mind, D3100/3200/5100/5200, by looking at the number of the model, I assume each of them are upgraded version according to their number, right?
what are the main differents between D3100/3200 to the D5100/5200. So is the price almost the same?

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No worries man, picking a camera is much easier than a notebook/desktop laugh.gif And they are much easier to maintain too~
I thought Canon's community is much better here in LYN, or even Malaysia? XD
You are right, Sony's NEX lineups consist of mirrrorless cameras; whereas Sony Alpha consists of their DSLR or "DSLR".

Correct again~
D3200 is the successor to the D3100, and D5200 to the D5100. But in the camera world, newer isn't always better.

Most of the time beginners compare D3200 with D5100 (assuming Nikon only lol) since they usually start with a budget of RM2k. If you need more megapixels and better recording capabilities, go for the D3200. If you need a flippable screen and slightly better ISO performance (better performance at night/dim conditions), then pick the D5100 nod.gif Most go for the latter happy.gif Since you have the budget, go for the one that comes with the 18-105mm kitlens (instead of 18-55mm)


QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 12 2013, 01:07 PM)
ah I see.. if is fix focal lens, then would it be hard that you can't zoom in or out to snap, so we have to take our camera to walk closer or further to snap our target?

Another thing I not quite understand between ISO and Aperture ( I read the guide from The Verge here) ISO is light absorb into the sensors, so the aperture means?? hmm.gif so the more the better or lesser the better or manual? holy rclxub.gif
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Yeah, with prime lens the user will be forced to walk around and compose their shots. And that is not exactly a bad thing, since most of the time, using a prime lens will get you better composed photos yo happy.gif Most users experienced an improvement in composition after using a 50mm F1.8 lens, most of the time the 2nd lens people buy after they have mastered using their kitlens and DSLR.

Higher ISO means higher "film" sensitivity = brighter photo, good when taking shots indoors or during the night. But higher ISO also means more digital noise in your photos. So have to learn which settings to use depending on location and available lighting. Noneed worry too much about these 1st, for a beginner, just go and have fun shooting under the sun and you will be alright haha XD

As what exquisite_markas has mentioned. THe aperture opening is indirectly proportional to the F value; lower F value = larger aperture, more light comes in = brighter photo. Larger apertures (low F value) will also mean better bokeh (blur) in out-of-focus parts; whereas smaller apertures (high F values) will ensure everything in your photo is sharp (like photos taken with compact camera/ handphones)

An example of bokeh (notice how only the eyes of the cat is sharp? Everything else is blurry):
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Cute Kitten 1 by PF T.J., on Flickr

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 12 2013, 01:25 PM)
Want to try prime lens but dk which focal length? use kit lens and put at that focal length. ta da! biggrin.gif
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Yeah, a good way to try out the "feel" of a prime lens haha icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 12 2013, 03:15 PM)
Nice pic bro...

Going to PC Fair later... Miri punya PC Fair no models... cry.gif  If got, at least can take pics...
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Thanks man haha, lucky shot laugh.gif
Can take photos of notebooks and tablets also yo, they can be very interesting also thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Pro3363 @ Oct 12 2013, 04:11 PM)
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Very interesting modification haha~

QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 12 2013, 04:22 PM)
Alright, so to cut it short, since I'm tight on budget, I think stick to D3200 comparing to D5200. I Google around I found that most of them compare D3200 to the Canon 600D, so this question would be just like Asus vs Lenovo brand. One thing makes me choose D3200 is, I heard you guys said that, there is a Beginner mode? so is there a similar feature in 600D too?

So, another question is, instead of picking the right DSLR(body), I should learn more how to shoot good photo and invest on good lens, right? hmm.gif

Ps. What other extra accessories I should buy for beginner? extra battery? what lens I should pick for beginner?
normally seller free memory card & bag or not? what is the common price selling now for the D3200 and 600D?
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Its usually D3200 vs D5100 (not D5200). Those who can afford a new D5200 can already buy an even premium D7000 XD

Both the 600D and D3200 are entry-level DSLRs which are beginner friendly, so both are good. Which one to choose from depends on:
1) Your personal preference. Like what 5p3ak said, test both units out, and see which one you like more, in terms of comfort, ergonomics, built, craftsmanship etc.
2) What most of your friends are using XD Its best to follow what the majority is using, so that you can learn faster, and also borrow lenses brows.gif

Yeah, a good lens will bring about huge improvements in terms of image quality, but that is something left for later after you are familiar with shooting nod.gif Even a kitlens can do wonders if you are good at composing and capturing the right moments icon_rolleyes.gif

For beginners, just stick to the normal package nod.gif And get a UV filter to protect your lens icon_rolleyes.gif
See here for prices and packages: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1578033&hl=

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 13 2013, 02:39 AM)
Aww...

Now I shorten the pick list of either pick below:

1) Nikon D3100
(because of cheap selling price now due to tight budget, someone I'm beginner to learn DSLR)
2) Nikon D3200
(slightly better than D3100 and a lot of positive review among 3 here but I still affordable to top-up)
3) Canon 600D
(I like the way holding it and the physical button layout, and I have more friend using Canon brand DSLR, since I can borrow lens or advice from them) So headache... hmm.gif
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Looks like Canon is the better pick for you man nod.gif
Its a huge advantage to have someone to guide you along the way with tips and advices as you will learn faster laugh.gif
But of course it also depends on how passionate you are la haha~

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