QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 15 2013, 05:53 PM)
17-55 dont la say rm5k++.
buy used at rm3k, that makes it seem more affordable...even that also i still see a few trying to be sold...like no more demand already.
Yes, used one at RM3K is a good bargain, the accuracy and reliability is much better, especially critical for job, even a slightly better accuracy is important.
That said, really still depends on the purpose. The Tamron 17-50mm is still good enough for most casual use even for jobs, some profesional photographers used them; by merely seeing the photos, how many or who can tell which lens is used?
But a better lens, surely will benefit more especially for paid jobs.
QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Nov 15 2013, 05:57 PM)
Of course Nikon will state so since buying third party lenses will not line their pockets.
I do realize you are not against third party lenses, merely advocating them based on user preferences.
What I'm trying to point out in particular is that newer third party lenses are stepping up their game when it comes to reliability. Specifically from my own uses, the 90mm VC is equal to the Nikkor as I own the tamron and have access to the Nikkor as well.
What I'm suggesting here is not about ignoring Nikon's options either. The nikkor is fine, but here, with the only differences being build quality (90 vs 105), which at most is superficial when it comes to durability. Both can be scratched, and drops will probably kill either.
For almost RM1000 difference in price, and considering that the buyer is budget constrained, it is only logical to recommend the tamron from my perspective.
That being said, I respect your opinions as well, so no offense dude.

Yes, you're right, they're stepping up their game. I'm not saying that 3rd party lens will not be better. Just like we can't say the Nikkor will always be sharper than 3rd party, so similarly, I can't say that the Nikkor will be more accurate or more reliable.
But I'm saying 'generally', the Nikkor "should" (or chances) be more reliable and accurate, as in, as a customer, the Nikkor should give more reliability for this. For more accurate, the owner needs to test and try out both lens to know, but from short testing usually you can't really tell (unless the difference is huge), and also one needs to test and make sure the lens has no problems like back-focus or front-focus, even slight, then it's unfair to compare.
For this, after testing, if there is "slight" difference, let's say the Nikkor is better "slightly" for the tester, but the price difference is huge. Then it's up to the person whether he/she feels it's worth paying more for the "slightly" better.
In some cases, a 3rd party maybe better or the better option, then it's a more easier choice since usually 3rd party is much cheaper.
I'm not aware of the buyer's budget, so I'm just suggesting. In the end, it's up to the buyer if he/she willing/wants to save more for it. I was also having budget constraint, but in the end I decided to save and get the Nikkor, but then back then there was no Tammy 90mm VC, the main reason I didn't get the older version is due to the lens extend during focusing, the slow and noisy AF.
If there is the VC version, I'm not sure if I would still choose the Nikkor or not, may need to try out both properly first