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gunzerdude
post Nov 15 2013, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 15 2013, 06:25 PM)
Yes, used one at RM3K is a good bargain, the accuracy and reliability is much better, especially critical for job, even a slightly better accuracy is important.
That said, really still depends on the purpose. The Tamron 17-50mm is still good enough for most casual use even for jobs, some profesional photographers used them; by merely seeing the photos, how many or who can tell which lens is used?
But a better lens, surely will benefit more especially for paid jobs.
Yes, you're right, they're stepping up their game. I'm not saying that 3rd party lens will not be better. Just like we can't say the Nikkor will always be sharper than 3rd party, so similarly, I can't say that the Nikkor will be more accurate or more reliable.
But I'm saying 'generally', the Nikkor "should" (or chances) be more reliable and accurate, as in, as a customer, the Nikkor should give more reliability for this. For more accurate, the owner needs to test and try out both lens to know, but from short testing usually you can't really tell (unless the difference is huge), and also one needs to test and make sure the lens has no problems like back-focus or front-focus, even slight, then it's unfair to compare.

For this, after testing, if there is "slight" difference, let's say the Nikkor is better "slightly" for the tester, but the price difference is huge. Then it's up to the person whether he/she feels it's worth paying more for the "slightly" better.
In some cases, a 3rd party maybe better or the better option, then it's a more easier choice since usually 3rd party is much cheaper.

I'm not aware of the buyer's budget, so I'm just suggesting. In the end, it's up to the buyer if he/she willing/wants to save more for it. I was also having budget constraint, but in the end I decided to save and get the Nikkor, but then back then there was no Tammy 90mm VC, the main reason I didn't get the older version is due to the lens extend during focusing, the slow and noisy AF.
If there is the VC version, I'm not sure if I would still choose the Nikkor or not, may need to try out both properly first  tongue.gif
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Hehe, normally I also expect the OEM to be the most reliable. But see the D600/610 fiasco and problems with other FX cameras la. Loosing hope in Nikon already. doh.gif
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post Nov 15 2013, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(copperwire93 @ Nov 15 2013, 06:57 PM)
This is true, there are times that it is still hard to frame even with 35mm, so usually I'll just estimate the shot and crop if it's within the frame, to get everything in the frame, well... rclxub.gif
Dunno, about 40mm but since it has macro I think it's suitable for food shots. Just my theory tho, not in practical.

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Wahh... learn so much from you guys. I'm aiming for older Tamron though, my goal only for portrait and botany macro or perhaps bugs macro just for hobby. Is the speed really slow for these purposes? I don't shoot for events too. Not sure anywhere in the future. unsure.gif

Want to share a photo of my online landscape sifu. It's autumn there. Really nice.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55858110@N02/10818261644/

Most of his photos taken with D90 and with the kitlens.
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If for portraits, then just set the limiter switch la. It'll prevent the lens from focusing all the way down to macro ranges. The speed then is actually quite ok, just don't expect instantaneous lockon la brows.gif

For macro leh, when I was using mine, the extending tube is a big problem. The length is one thing already, the extension during focusing can sometimes scare off more sensitive bugs.

Ehh, your landscapes are always so nice leh. notworthy.gif

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post Nov 16 2013, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(copperwire93 @ Nov 16 2013, 02:08 PM)
How to dismount my lens from the extension tube. lol!

I mounted it until the click sound, and now it's locked but how to dismount? It's Octopus plastic ET.

Got it. Followed this guide. http://www.wikihow.com/Remove-Your-Lens-Ex...on-Tube-Adapter
I was worried back then. doh.gif

I unable to focus on anything tho, no matter how much I rotate the focus ring. Any insights?
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If your lens is the 35mm 1.8G, with the entire set of tubes on, your focus plane is already inside the tube. That's why cannot see anything in focus laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Nov 16 2013, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Nov 16 2013, 10:50 PM)
who says events and street don't require patience?
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Both also need, but taking macro at extreme magnifications is very frustrating, especially when you're in a weird position and there's constant breezes.
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post Nov 16 2013, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Nov 16 2013, 10:54 PM)
yeah, but if you want to get good pictures during events, you also need to wait and always observe around, spray and pray won't really get good pictures.
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Yeah, but as I've said, the patience required is in a different context, not only you have to observe, but the process of getting the shot itself is really difficult at times. whistling.gif
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post Nov 16 2013, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Nov 16 2013, 11:06 PM)
Not just patience lo, courage is very important, which I don't have  cry.gif  cry.gif
Yo bro, you forgot one extremely important thing- mosquitoessssss!!!
There are the real test to a macro photographer (or landscape shooter) miahahaha XD

Hate them with all my heart, farking opportunists while people are concentrating haha  tongue.gif
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Female Aedes sp. mosquito by PF T.J., on Flickr
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Ehh, should organize a meetup soon. brows.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(dvdt24 @ Nov 22 2013, 03:42 PM)
I not so confident with Used units coz worry what if the history of the camera got drop before... i mean like once drop smth inside can be micro fractured or loose or smth. Only matter of time before smth breaks down if that's the case.

I missed out on a damn good deal recently sad.gif so burnt coz of that.. RM2600 for D7000 with 18-105 and 6 months warranty new in box. like wtf lol

So now continue hunting back for a place for a good deal haha..
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My friend got the exact same bundle + original battery grip for 2K, also 6 months old with around 3K shutter count laugh.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(dvdt24 @ Nov 22 2013, 07:12 PM)
sad.gif I badly want a D7000 but don't have more than RM2400. wah... so bad loh u...

U know what? The bundle i lost out on, the guy said the camera was NIB throughout it's lifespan. Imagine how frustrated i felt lol

Anyways i contacted most of the shops on lowyat, and seriously for import sets they keep on quoting me prices that are RM400 more than the lowest prices i got which not listed on lowyat.
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Is getting a new unit really of the utmost importance?

I understand your concerns about getting a faulty unit, but for a DSLR to take damage to the point where it's innards are compromised, there will usually be significant signs, nevermind the fact that you should have the right to test the body before you purchase. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

There are plenty of good deals below 2k, and if you insist on a new unit, the lowest price you can get for a local warranty body is 2.3K from digitalsmania. Have fun thumbup.gif
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post Nov 25 2013, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(copperwire93 @ Nov 25 2013, 09:24 PM)
Tonight spam. smile.gif
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Feeling blue by NurAzam, on Flickr
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Feeling Blue by NurAzam, on Flickr

Shame, cannot shoot lassies. unsure.gif
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Damn.... Such colors.... And I'm here revising 32 pages of notes for tomorrow's exam. Thank god it's the last tho laugh.gif
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post Nov 25 2013, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(copperwire93 @ Nov 25 2013, 10:08 PM)
Thank you, I like 2nd better too. Especially that sky burst.
Haha! Good luck, afterwards be like me, anxious of the result, the feeling will be escalated near the end of December. sweat.gif 
Before that, can have fun with the shooting.
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Haha, I gan cheong during the actual exam only. Results I don't care so much because can agak what I'll get already from my performance during the exam.

I find it really funny when my college asks me to go through so much trouble to learn stuff that is already obsolete and replaced by new tech. shakehead.gif

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