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 University of Malaya PhDs and in general; CRAP!, My Reasons ...

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azarimy
post Sep 28 2013, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(xenotzu @ Sep 28 2013, 01:13 PM)
Let me elaborate my experience with MU or Malaya U. In the early 80s, I studied mechanical engineering in a Polytechnic in London. Later, I went on to study Law in a university in Wales. In the early 1990s, when I was back in Malaysia, I visited MU during an open day there. Out of curiosity, I checked out their engineering stand and talked to the students manning the booth there. I was shocked to discover that they had no training or access to CAD/CAM programs and worse still, no access to computers. They told me that they had to group together to buy a personal computer to be shared amongst the group and buy pirated CAD/CAM programs to learn on their own. 10 years previously, in a polytechnic (not a University mind you) in London, I was already proficient with CAD/CAM programs, with access to dumb terminals connected to a mini computer, where we learned to write programs in machine code and Fortran.

Surprisingly enough, a few months later, still in the 1990s, during a radio interview with the secretary of the Institute of Engineers Malaysia, I managed to get through and asked him why was it that our so called premier university, Malaya U, were so backward that they could not provide or train their engineering students in CAD/CAM programs, when 10 years earlier, I was already being trained to do so in London. That stupid secretary's reply was that MU was training their students for local Malaysian conditions and standard, which were not as advanced or required to be as advanced as Western countries!

When I informed an uncle of mine who was a London graduate from the 1960s and had had his own civil engineering firm in KL since the 1970s, he was shocked and said what absolute rubbish! All the main engineering firms during the 1990s already had computers running CAD programs and were hiring engineers who knew how to use them in order to stay on top! Our Malaysian engineering firms are quite capable and can compete on the international stage, given the opportunity. My uncle was absolutely pissed off and had a word with the secretary. Considering he was one of the senior civil engineers in the country, who had designed some of the iconic landmarks in KL, I think the secretary lived to regret his reply.

In the late 1990s, I applied to do a law PHD at Malaya U on a part time basis. Two things surprised me. Firstly, there were only 2 PHD students. Me and another student, who happened to be a law lecturer at MU. She went on to head the law department after obtaining her PHD at MU. Secondly, during my interview and subsequent time at MU, everybody, from the Deputy Dean of the Law Department who interviewed me, the librarian, my PHD supervisor and a few others, asked me why I didn't do my PHD at an overseas university. They said that overseas universities had better lecturers, research facilities and prestige, compared to MU. That was what they told me. 

In other words, they were running down MU even though they were worked there.  Shows you the confidence that they had in MU.  They were so surprised that I wanted to take my PHD at MU. I told them that I had a legal practice to take care and I couldn't spend 3 years overseas to do a PHD which I only wanted to do for interest.

So, you can see, my bias against MU. Things may have changed a lot at MU since the 1990s. Or it may have not. All I know is that MU during the 1990s were not as up todate as my poly in London, 10 years earlier in the 1980s. Further, their own staff considered their own qualifications, well at least at PHD level, to be inferior to those of overseas universities. Well considering, the consistent drop in ranking of MU in QS world rankings, I am not surprised!
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okay i've read this somewhere. was it u?

was it here?
azarimy
post Sep 28 2013, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 28 2013, 03:34 PM)
I need to agree with you.
conclusion:quota system is the main problem here.
Merit system is the way to go if we want to improve I ranking.
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ummm... assuming we're still talking about PhDs (or postgraduates in general), there should be no quotas. this have been outlined in a circular by MoHE around 2004 i think. that's why there are non-bumis doing postgrads in UiTM.
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post Sep 29 2013, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(xenotzu @ Sep 28 2013, 04:06 PM)
You are right, the quota system was actually lifted almost 10 years ago now.  Theoretically, there are no education quotas any more.  However, our universities seem to keep slipping in international education rankings.

It takes years to build something of worth and quality but only a day to destroy it. 
 

Yes, I've raised the point before and I will probably keep raising it to keep the debate on our education system.  The reason that I do so is because I am passionate about our Malaysian education system.  Something that was inculcate in me by my mother.  She was one of the last batches of teachers trained by the British and taught for some almost 40 years in some of the top schools in PJ and KL.

She and her colleagues, saw the deterioration of the primary and secondary education system, from meritocracy and quality, to mediocrity and quantity.  Finally, in the late 1990s, she and many of her colleagues, took early retirement because they said that they were spending more time filling in forms and dealing with administrative matters, than actually teaching, which was their reason for being teachers in the first place.

It wasn't helped that the new generation of teachers and headmasters seem more keen to toe whatever government line was going around, rather than to ensure that children were being taught and taught properly, regardless of race, religion or creed.
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wait till your mother sees PBS. she'll scream bloody murder.

i'm looking into the new non-exam based assessment system currently in place in schools. they amount of loading they put on the shoulders of teachers is a nightmare. no teachers, old or new, would ever wanna be in this situation right now. and all i can say is "good luck, dear children."

and i havent even begun to look at tertiary education.

 

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