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 Honda Jazz 1.5 CKD, Official thread!

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post Sep 8 2015, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(jannah_adnin @ Sep 6 2015, 07:29 PM)
Sorry for my mistake.its jazz gk.i am still using samsung s4.android said can be used to connect to hdmi to use the waze.but mine cannot and dunno why.heard few frenz using iphone 5s also having same prob.so not sure if anyone here ever used the hdmi port to connect the phone for waze.interested to know which model of phone.
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honda city thread
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post Sep 13 2015, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Sep 13 2015, 04:25 PM)
I read somewhere that mirroring does not work when the car is in motion, is that true...?
Everyone's into Jazz GK nowadays, my car GE old liao... nothing much to share...  cry.gif
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I don't know, as you can see from the Honda City page. Someone seemed to have made it work and it stays on even after shifting to D. Or does it turn off once the system sense speed?

Me too, got something to share also become irrelevant dah.

QUOTE(chnwng @ Sep 13 2015, 03:41 PM)
This thread seems like dying.. why nobody wants to share ur experience with ur ride?
Anybody out there have changed their std rim to after market? Enlighten me with the suitable offset on 16" rim with wider tyres...😊
I'm with e spec changed to v spec rim n tyres.
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What to share? Everything is just standard stuff la, bodykit, rims, DRL. Same topic, same car, different day and different page only. Even the rim topic already mentioned a few pages back.

Unless someone planted a K20AR or swapped a 6 speed mission from a Fit RS into their GE or GK. That would be an interesting topic. But for those, we have MYJFFC la.

To be frank, what sort of offset can you find for a taiwanese 16" rim? Except for those ROTA rims la. I don't think you have much choices lo. The standard +42 offset on a 7" with no wheel spacers should fit without issues on a stock car.

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post Sep 14 2015, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(jannah_adnin @ Sep 14 2015, 12:14 PM)
i have been given understanding that even video also cant be play when car in motion unless we install tv free hardness where it allow video can be play while car in motion. it works on mine but i am still having problem with the waze to be used through samsung s4 to my hdmi.its just blank display  cry.gif . really interested to know if anyone here ever use that hdmi port to connect their phone and use waze happily
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You do need the handbrake bypass at least to prevent the screen from going off when driving.
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post Sep 14 2015, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(jannah_adnin @ Sep 14 2015, 12:32 PM)
yes already bypass the handbrake system.can view the video but nothing to use waze. not sure is software prob from phone or what. still trying to make it work
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If you run into a dead end. Should try and get some other phones to try. The pic sure looks like some android phone to me
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post Sep 16 2015, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Sep 14 2015, 09:13 PM)
does anyone feel their jazz is quite lethargic at low rpm ?

i've ge8 for 1 year++ , noticed that from 0-2k rpm, i felt it is kinda "dying", gota pedal more to get decent acceleration(affect FC). i think it maybe the engine is as such or the auto transmission is upshifting way too fast. Noticed the differences after i drove my father's 8 years old vios.
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I mean, what basis as in low rpm? How much throttle is fed? I guess at 10 to 15% throttle (i have an OBD II monitor showing the relative throttle position), the car would not really be haulin' ass. But, it is moving. If you want it to accelerate faster, then it makes sense to feed more throttle which it then kicks down a gear or two and send it moving.

If you've driven a City GM3 and above. You will understand how the econ button plays with the throttle curve and shift programs. The good thing on the City GM3 is that you always can have the gear lever put in "S" and then use the paddle shift to keep it in manual mode and stick it in any gear you want. It sort of helps in some way but isn't really solving the problem.

Partly it is the shift program, partly the way the throttle is mapped, delays, lags and whatever from a DBW.

QUOTE(cracksys @ Sep 15 2015, 10:38 AM)
even on the new GK.

probably its the CVT.

coming from ex-e36 325.
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GE has an ATF vs the CVT on the GK

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post Sep 22 2015, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Sep 22 2015, 08:35 AM)
As stated, my low rpm is 0-2k rpm.
Sorry there, not familiar with city and my jazz doesnt have econ button.
Maybe need 3rd party device to adjust the throttle response?
Probably it is still new. Weird to see GK jazz has somewhat similar problem, thought different engine with cvt will have better power delivery than GE.

I should try to drive GD and GK jazz to get a feel about them.
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If it can stay within 2k revs. I believe you are not putting in much throttle at all. The car won't be accelerating fast at this much throttle opening. Anything past 25% throttle feels quite acceptable by me for city driving.

You just need to get used to how the throttle operates and the transmission shifts. It is sometines hard to relate how the throttle corresponds to the acceleration rate. But, i would say it is fairly simple to command by just lightly touching the throttle pedal giving 10-15% and the car would stay constant at city cruising speeds or it will slowly accelerate from standstill. If you need it to accelerate harder, speed up and then back off when your cruising speed is reached.

For an idea of how much throttle i need when cruising around 120kph on flattish expressways. I only give around 15 to 20% and it stays there.

Throttle controllers in the market is useless. It just gets signal off your sensors and fool the ecu into thinking that you have actually given it less or more throttle than what you have put in based on selected modes. Might as well you just press harder with your right foot and save the couple hundred bucks. The throttle is only going to open so much and those controller still works within the physical constrains of the throttle. It also does not reduces the lag introduced by DBW either.
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post Oct 2 2015, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Sep 28 2015, 02:55 PM)
I went over once, no problem regarding the service.
In another matter, has anyone able to dig more about the L15B engine details?
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What is there to dig about? It's all on the internet.
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post Oct 3 2015, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 2 2015, 01:30 PM)
The type of vtec it uses
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It has direct injection, twin cams.

This is a true i-VTEC where there is a valve timing and valve lift involved compared to the previous generation L15A which has a very confusing i-VTEC which actually has a very different meaning to the ones most people relate to on the K20AR.

This one according to the parts listing seems to shows different camshaft on both sides meaning it is most likely to have VTEC activation on the intake side of things.

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HondaPartsNow Honda Fit 2015 assuming this is the L15B earth dreams that is available in the US.

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It looks to have potential where i think i read somewhere that some tuners have gotten it up in the regions of 160ps which is almost B series range of power output. How much work and money that has to put into it is a topic for another day.

I guess, what this new earth dreams motor has is with the direct injection on it's side allowing it to run higher compression compared to previous B and K motors. So, it should be a base for the introduction of turbocharging into Honda's line up in the future.

There you have it.
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post Oct 4 2015, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 3 2015, 11:01 PM)
i agree this is the true ivtec  = vtec + vtc .

thanks for the infopictures , from the intake/exhaust graph , it seems like the vtec implementation is 12v/16v operation , but i can't read japanese, so can't confirm it.
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It is not a 3 stage vtec.
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post Oct 4 2015, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 4 2015, 08:14 AM)
I didn't mention 3 stage,  only 12v/16v operation
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3 stage or vtec-e. It does not close one intake valve. There is no hints that it does that as the intake cams have 3 cam lobes.

This is how 3 stage vtec looks like.
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It has 2 pins pushed by hydraulics to each activate 1 valve and valve lift function instead of the conventional 1 pin design of normal vtec.

The only one that does it in the L series line up is the l13 i think.

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post Oct 4 2015, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 4 2015, 09:48 AM)
3 stage is 12v+16v+high cam, with 2 vtec points, combinations of vtec-e and power vtec,example of such engine is d15b.

Vtec-e is used in l15a1
asia.vtec.net/Series/FitJazz/lseries/

Power vtec is used in l15a7
asia.vtec.net/Engines/LSERIESG2/

Latest gen of local city use vtec-e
asia.vtec.net/Reviews/4GCityLaunch/index.html#.VhCFueewrqA

not sure what kind of vtec implementation in local gk5, trying to find info on it, maybe it is using same engine from latest city
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3 stage or vtec-e. Both has valve deactivation which is my point since you are asking about l15b.

As for the local GM city and GK based Jazz, they are using the L15Z engine codes last i saw on the chassis plates. But, what it does doesn't matter at all. There is not much you can hope for if you are looking for performance. Furthermore, we don't have the 6MT option here and the halfcuts are now at extravagant prices which you can surely look into alternatives if you want speed. Hondata pub tarak support.

So what is the intention for knowing?

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post Nov 2 2015, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Oct 29 2015, 03:31 PM)
Has anyone compared the rides between GK and older GE, izzit stiffer on the GK...?
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Nah. Feels the same.
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post Nov 2 2015, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(farghmee @ Oct 29 2015, 07:13 PM)
Jazz ge 60k km just now
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Horee shiet. 3 years worth of mileage adi.
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post Nov 2 2015, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 28 2015, 06:49 PM)
Hi which dealer is that?
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U mau tukar kereta ke?
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post Nov 2 2015, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Oct 29 2015, 05:48 AM)
Wow Honda is really getting desperate, sales must be bad. I got RM5.5k discount with Kah back in June, not including my NCD. OTR for the Jazz V was RM80k after discount + NCD.
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Despo or not. We only know price will increase next year as confirmed by what we should not link to. 2 or 3% increase.

So, that rm5,500 might sound tempting now if you ask me. Especially if one is lookin to buy in 2016 with additional factors on discount uncertainties by 2016 after price goes up
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post Nov 4 2015, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(chnwng @ Nov 3 2015, 11:52 AM)
Hi.
I have 4 pcs for sales. Still with 75-85% tread. Tyre is yr2014. Interested whatsapp me at 0122828545.
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Tyres only or entire wheel? {with rim}
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post Nov 4 2015, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(farghmee @ Nov 4 2015, 09:26 AM)
Sy ada 1 kete je..fuuuu
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Still.......
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post Nov 11 2015, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(JuneSeptember @ Nov 9 2015, 11:34 AM)
Hi guys, is it cheaper to buy during year-end promo, or buy 2015's old stock in early 2016? I wonder when will Honda's pricing be most aggressive.

Any sales agents here? Pls PM me you best offer, I'm based in KL/PJ area.
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Let's jus put it this way. Honda already confirmed price to go up next year. Is it immediately after 1 jan 2016? I am not sure. It depends if you want to chance it.

I think it is as aggressive as you can get now since only a month left considering no amount you get next year will cancel off the price increase and make it cheaper than what you can get now.
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post Nov 11 2015, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Nov 10 2015, 06:26 PM)
I thought last month got forumer said 6.5K and this month 7K?

Dont expect free gift though.
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7k is kinda hard. Honda official promo now i think is 4k discount in cash. Heard some dealers go up to 6k with additional rebates la. That is almost 10% of the car mind you.
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post Nov 11 2015, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(Xefron @ Nov 9 2015, 05:36 PM)
I am planning to buy the S instead of E ,mainly will be use in the city.

The main lacking features will be the traction control and multiscreen info.

Should i go for E instead?
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Most of the stuff is either not available as an add on option later or costs a bomb. You sure saving that amount is a wise choice?

Only you know what you want, no one can give you an answer.

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