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roimekoi
post Apr 17 2015, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Apr 17 2015, 06:53 PM)
for the formation, night battle should use what?
How to avoid damage on night battle before boss stage?

単縦 ダメージ特化型(対潜除く)、砲撃・雷撃重視
複縦 砲撃命中重視。水上、潜水(1~2隻)混在艦隊の掃討用等
輪形 航空戦防空向き。旗艦保護向け。雷撃命中低
梯形 検証が進んでいない陣形。夜戦用?
単横 対潜特化型。
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Ladder formation+ flare to avoid cut in only.
2-hit cannot be avoided
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post Apr 17 2015, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Apr 17 2015, 06:59 PM)
1) meaning of sortie?
1) how to know what is red status? where to check?
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Avatar with dark red kanji taiha
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post Apr 17 2015, 07:46 PM

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post Apr 17 2015, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(air @ Apr 17 2015, 06:09 PM)
Ship damage status is quite different from fatigue.
Damage status seems wont affect accuracy but only max damage dealt to enemies:

小破 Shoha =>
- Your ship max damage will be nerfed by a small portion
- Battleship still can deal tons of damage, usually still 1 shotted most enemy ship
- Heavy cruiser starting unable to 1 shot kill enemy ship

中破 Chuha => can start sortie/go any node/Enter Night Battle without risk of being sunk by enemies
- Your ship max damage will be nerfed by almost half
- Battleship still can deal heavy damage to enemy ship, but most likely enemy wont be sunk from full HP
- Carriers/Light carriers will be AFK at Shelling stage, but still can send plane at Opening Aerial stage
- Heavy cruiser damage basically cant do much on enemy ships, suggest repair CA at this damage state.
- Any ship with launching torpedoes ability will be unable to launch torpedoes at Torpedoes Stage, except Torpedo Cruiser.

大破 Taiha => retreat is your only option, DO NOT ever click anything at formation selection screen, just reload the game page, Sortie/moving to next node in same map, got a huge risk to get your ship sunk.
- Your ship max damage will be crippled a lot, basically left like less than 30% of max damage
- Pretty much your ships can only do little damage to enemies.
- Entering Night Battle with Taiha status => AFK turn BUT WILL NEVER GET SUNK
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thanks for all the detail info notworthy.gif
for me, never continue if the ship is red 大破 Taiha biggrin.gif
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post Apr 17 2015, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Apr 17 2015, 06:59 PM)
1) meaning of sortie?
1) how to know what is red status? where to check?
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simple, whenever you see this on your ship's picture, its time to head back home to the repair docks
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there are 3 status as air above described, light, medium and heavy. all easily noticed by the color getting darker (yellow to orange to red)
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post Apr 18 2015, 01:43 AM

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For fatigue/morale:


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Green Circle: Slightly Fatigued (40-49) and the words flashing
- accuracy and evasion slightly reduced, but in map 4 onwards, your fleet will take quite some damage from enemy fleet if unlucky
- If you see the flashing and if you want to grind with efficiently while taking least damage from enemy, you should let your fleet rest about 5-15 mins till the "給" word stop flashing and fade off.
- For TT who want to power-level their Flagship while not really worry about buckets and resource spending, they may sortie their fleet under this status.

Red Circle: Moderately Fatigued (39 and below)
- At this state, unless you very desparate or you are grinding a very low level map with huge level gap, Mostly not recommended for further sortie.
- Accuracy and evasion of your fleet ships can consider halved. Will suffer a lot of damage from higher level map enemy fleets.

Yellow Circle: Sparkling (any morale value above 50)
- Normally this effect will happen on any ship who got MVP more than 2 times.
- It is possible to make your whole fleet sparkling, by using 演習 with other player and win rank S/A more than 2 times(practice war, only cost fuel and ammo, no damage, rarely fatigue even lost)

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post Apr 18 2015, 09:49 AM

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uuu fatigued system already uh? i guess they really want u guys to use all of em ships biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2015, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(air @ Apr 18 2015, 01:43 AM)
For fatigue/morale:
user posted image
Green Circle: Slightly Fatigued (40-49) and the words flashing
- accuracy and evasion slightly reduced, but in map 4 onwards, your fleet will take quite some damage from enemy fleet if unlucky
- If you see the flashing and if you want to grind with efficiently while taking least damage from enemy, you should let your fleet rest about 5-15 mins till the "給" word stop flashing and fade off.
- For TT who want to power-level their Flagship while not really worry about buckets and resource spending, they may sortie their fleet under this status.

Red Circle: Moderately Fatigued (39 and below)
- At this state, unless you very desparate or you are grinding a very low level map with huge level gap, Mostly not recommended for further sortie.
- Accuracy and evasion of your fleet ships can consider halved. Will suffer a lot of damage from higher level map enemy fleets.

Yellow Circle: Sparkling (any morale value above 50)
- Normally this effect will happen on any ship who got MVP more than 2 times.
- It is possible to make your whole fleet sparkling, by using 演習 with other player and win rank S/A more than 2 times(practice war, only cost fuel and ammo, no damage, rarely fatigue even lost)
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thanks for detail explanation notworthy.gif
and i like your 提督 name thumbup.gif

now i using CV for training, keep on continue even red face tongue.gif

BTW, how u all choose plane for CV/CVL?
i know green plane for enemy CV/CVL but how about the red plane or blue plane? is it by situation/what enemies ship type?
i mixed it about half/half biggrin.gif

is there something like red/blue plane good/bad against certain type of ship?
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post Apr 18 2015, 03:26 PM

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You can try using this http://aircalc.net/ to do your air superiority/supremacy calculation
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post Apr 18 2015, 05:08 PM

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I personally recommend go read the English wikia for beginners or people that dunno the in game mechanics it covers everything u need to know after that if you still have question only then we can easily discuss about that
QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Apr 17 2015, 06:59 PM)
1) meaning of sortie?
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Sortie is u send ur ship daughters out to 1-* to 6-* dating with deepsea girls

This post has been edited by kenjixx: Apr 18 2015, 05:13 PM
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post Apr 18 2015, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(roimekoi @ Apr 17 2015, 07:41 PM)
Avatar with dark red kanji taiha
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 17 2015, 08:26 PM)
simple, whenever you see this on your ship's picture, its time to head back home to the repair docks
user posted image

there are 3 status as air above described, light, medium and heavy. all easily noticed by the color getting darker (yellow to orange to red)
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Thanks a lot, last time I always bath my girls when chuha or medium damaged, I remember I read a lot japanese player said go back when chuha

QUOTE(Zackler @ Apr 18 2015, 09:49 AM)
uuu fatigued system already uh? i guess they really want u guys to use all of em ships biggrin.gif
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They want you to spend increase ship space
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post Apr 18 2015, 06:37 PM

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Based on official wiki
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轟沈の条件  Edit
全く無傷の状態で(戦闘参加前/中破未満は基本大丈夫)
全く疲労していない状態(出港時確認でOK)で夜戦含む「戦闘」に臨んだ場合は、
「基本的には轟沈を回避する」仕様となっています。
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昼戦で中破、大破し夜戦に突入した場合轟沈することはありますか?  Edit
攻略情報/仕様詳細につきまして、基本的にお伝えする事ができませんが、
場合によっては轟沈する事もございます。
(尚、大元のソースは雑談掲示板への書き込みである。スクリーンショット等は一切確認されていない。)
中破未満は基本大丈夫- I suppose this statement means " it's ok to proceed next battle if not yet medium damaged or chuha"
Anyone good in japanese can confirm? I remember japanese forum got said very low risk if continue when chuha, but your guys experience no sank even when chuha?
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post Apr 18 2015, 06:48 PM

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Best fatigue explanation notworthy.gif

For me I never go battle when 給 word flashing
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post Apr 18 2015, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Apr 18 2015, 06:37 PM)
Based on official wiki
中破未満は基本大丈夫- I suppose this statement means " it's ok to proceed next battle if not yet medium damaged or chuha"
Anyone good in japanese can confirm? I remember japanese forum got said very low risk if continue when chuha, but your guys experience no sank even when chuha?
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=73982988

Kindly read my explanation on damage state mentioned in previous page. Not even Kancolle english wiki able to provide decent explanation on Damaged status, which all beginner TTs are worrying about.

TL DR;

Small: can sortie as usual

Medium:
- Can sortie and move to next node under this status. Of course its safe to enter night battle. BUT it is recommend to repair heavy cruiser/Battlship, other ship can still proceed sortie as normal to save bucket

Heavy:
- If under this status during day battle, 100% safe to proceed to night battle. Will be sunk if start new sortie/move to next battle node


Source: gathered from google, proven from my side(0 Kanmusu sunk so far, 7th week TT exp)

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post Apr 18 2015, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(zemperor @ Apr 18 2015, 10:54 AM)
thanks for detail explanation notworthy.gif
and i like your 提督 name thumbup.gif

now i using CV for training, keep on continue even red face tongue.gif

BTW, how u all choose plane for CV/CVL?
i know green plane for enemy CV/CVL but how about the red plane or blue plane? is it by situation/what enemies ship type?
i mixed it about half/half biggrin.gif

is there something like red/blue plane good/bad against certain type of ship?
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Aha my TT name cause I love many of em~

Training you mean grinding? Using more than 2 standard carriers in your grinding, will exhaust your bauxite reserve pretty fast...

Grinding: 2 light carriers full with bombers(3 blue 1 red), 2 Torpedo cruiser with Type A hyoteki
Result: ENemy fleet wipe even before Shelling Stage

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Note:
Best pure air-to-air fighter ==> Kaga(put her full fighter plane and 1 type 62 plane, she is basically a semi-"Taihou")
Best full bomber ==> Taihou(only can get from LSC)
Best evasion ==> Shoukaku sisters(the one being called Flight-Deck chest by Ooi at Episode 5), Hiryuu(the one look like minori from Log horizon)
Akagi ==> eat a lot but very bad in air control, but too expensive as bomber.

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QUOTE(air @ Apr 18 2015, 07:56 PM)
Aha my TT name cause I love many of em~

Training you mean grinding? Using more than 2 standard carriers in your grinding, will exhaust your bauxite reserve pretty fast...

Grinding: 2 light carriers full with bombers(3 blue 1 red), 2 Torpedo cruiser with Type A hyoteki
Result: ENemy fleet wipe even before Shelling Stage

user posted image

Note:
Best pure air-to-air fighter ==> Kaga(put her full fighter plane and 1 type 62 plane, she is basically a semi-"Taihou")
Best full bomber ==> Taihou(only can get from LSC)
Best evasion ==> Shoukaku sisters(the one being called Flight-Deck chest by Ooi at Episode 5), Hiryuu(the one look like minori from Log horizon)
Akagi ==> eat a lot but very bad in air control, but too expensive as bomber.
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thanks for the guide notworthy.gif

sorry for confusion laugh.gif
training mean repeating same level again and again to level up the ship... or grinding i guess tongue.gif

is your picture world 3-2 1st node?
this is my attemp with your guide biggrin.gif
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i use carrier instead torpedo cruiser because carrier still can continue with red face icon_rolleyes.gif

BTW, 2 light carrier instead of carrier is it because of resource usage?
and your note is it mean Kaga all slot green fighter, taihou all slot bomber...?
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QUOTE(Zackler @ Apr 18 2015, 09:49 AM)
uuu fatigued system already uh? i guess they really want u guys to use all of em ships biggrin.gif
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huh? fatigue system exist from the beginning of the game, not just recently implemented..
and zemperor no spoiler tags on signature

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Feb 2 2014, 02:40 AM)
; w;

i saw a level 38 teitoku with level 60 taihou in duel today..
much jealousy so...
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can't believe it been a year plus,


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HQ level 99

had some down time but haven't claim the ''kuso teitoku title''.
Still single married to Hiei

need to get 5-8 more rings .__________ .


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post Apr 19 2015, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(air @ Apr 18 2015, 07:39 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=73982988

Kindly read my explanation on damage state mentioned in previous page. Not even Kancolle english wiki able to provide decent explanation on Damaged status, which all beginner TTs are worrying about.

TL DR;

Small: can sortie as usual

Medium:
- Can sortie and move to next node under this status. Of course its safe to enter night battle. BUT it is recommend to repair heavy cruiser/Battlship, other ship can still proceed sortie as normal to save bucket

Heavy:
- If under this status during day battle, 100% safe to proceed to night battle. Will be sunk if start new sortie/move to next battle node
Source: gathered from google, proven from my side(0 Kanmusu sunk so far, 7th week TT exp)
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Thanks, now I know how to proceed when night battle, last time I always retreat when medium damaged..., wasted
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post Apr 19 2015, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Apr 19 2015, 05:38 AM)
can't believe it been a year plus,
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HQ level 99

had some down time but haven't claim the ''kuso teitoku title''.
Still single married to Hiei

need to get 5-8 more rings .__________ .
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i still dont have Taihou ;__;

lvl 73 TTK here

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