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post Nov 25 2015, 11:21 PM

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OK done with E4-EASY mode:

3th BOSS run => Tokitsukaze

< 20 BOSS node runs => Graf Zeppellin!!!~~~

14th M node run => Prinz Eugen!!!~~~

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post Nov 26 2015, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(Ryutaro @ Nov 25 2015, 11:30 PM)
congratz i will be at the corner drawing circle....
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Later will post out my fleet setup for minimum repair and 100% S rank.

Roughly 800 ammo per run X 14 run => 10k+ ammo, fuel maybe 30% more due to repairs
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post Nov 26 2015, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(sI Taufu @ Nov 26 2015, 12:33 AM)
You very very lucky man.
Others  farm eugen and zippellin like more than 50 times still never get a trace of her.
I felt you gonna get more rare ship later on during e5.
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Need your advice in clearing E4:

1. Should I clear E4 EASY/Medium? Currently 25% BOSS hp left(EASY mode)
2. Should I remain E4-EASY for U-511/Roma/Akitsumaru? (not yet obtained these girls)
3. So far I checked, E5 only have Arashi/Noshiro/Sakawa/Yahagi, are those girls rare enough compare to Graf/Prinz/Roma/511/Akitsu?

Now I am struggling between limited resources/Rare girls/E5 Kou Medal =_=

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post Nov 26 2015, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(zemperor @ Nov 26 2015, 08:58 AM)
drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
i'm still looking for the german carrier biggrin.gif
please share your fleet setup notworthy.gif
i still looking for a balance point between anti-submarine and anti surface laugh.gif

yesterday i use:
main: 3BB 1CA 2CVL (full anti surface, CA = maya kai ni anti air)
escort: 1CL 5DD (full ASW)
for me, carrier have better chance to reach M node than STF...
sometimes RNG, my ship red health before M node cry.gif
it just carrier need to bring akitsushima which not much help tongue.gif
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Which node farming punya setup you want to refer? Prinz or Zeppelin?

For M node (D E F I K M):

Combined Fleet: Surface Task Force

Main Fleet
1CV (Zuikaku Kai with 2 Reppus + Egusa red bomber + Saiun)
4BB (Red gun + Yellow gun + 1 seaplane/bomber + Type-3-shell)
1CA (Maya full gear AACI with best anti-air radar, last slot should be Type-3-shell)

Red gun => any red gun which adds Accuracy, firepower is not really needed in combined fleet. EG: Prototype 41cm +2 accuracy.
Yellow gun => Literally yellow color gun, such as OTO cannon/15.5 yellow, which add decent firepower and accuracy
Type 3 shell => Crucial for installation boss AND wiping PT imps with scratch damage easily(about 50-75% hit rate)

Note 1: Why use Red+Yellow cut in setup?

Normal cut-in setup is far more accurate than Day-DA setup in combined fleet due to Overweight penalty on > 1 big red guns is being amplified in Combined fleet setup.

Note 2: Why red bombers than Torpedo bombers on CV?

CV with red bombers will auto ignore installation-type BOSS and wiping the small ships, even PT imps(with about 50% chance during Shelling-stage, or during Aerial Stage)

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Escort Fleet

1CL (Abukuma is best due to requirement fulfilling + launching pre-shelling torpedo ability)
1CLT (Ooi/KTKM best due to their insane torpedo stats)
2DD (Requirements, and for 100% countering PT imps)
2FBB (Requirements, and dealing 100% KO damage to Hime)

Equip setup:

Abukuma & CLT ==> 1 HYOTEKI + 2 SECONDARY cannons (No OTO as this weapon got penalty on any CL-class ships), best choice: 8cm green/90mm green/10.5 cm green/15.5 yellow/15.2 improved +6
DD ==> 2X main/secondary(green) cannon for each DD, for their last slot, 1 search light & 1 rocket launcher on your choice, 100% kill on PT imps
FBB => Normal cut-in with Type-3 shell as describe above.


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Estimated bucket cost on EASY => 1-3 depend on morale, please make sure rest your fleets 5-8 mins between sorties, do not repair and quickly send out again for sorties, even the mamiya word not flashing, some ships within the fleet still not recovering their morale back to normal.

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post Nov 26 2015, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Ryutaro @ Nov 26 2015, 11:48 AM)
air-senpai u freaking lucky lah just looked at the stats at wikia, apparently on 1.36% chance of dropping prinz if u scored S==
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I just did whatever I can to improvise from the wiki suggested build and tips + my own feel on damage management, then luck will be coming to your side very soon, since every run is 100% S rank kill + minimum damage although 0 drop.

Main factors on M node: Yellow cannon + any accuracy-based equips(except Radars are useless in this map due to Type-3 shell needed) + rocket launcher

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post Nov 26 2015, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(newuserex @ Nov 26 2015, 02:36 PM)
Cleared E3 yesterday so I want to try my luck on E4, should I hunt for Prinz or Graf 1st?
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As both are very rare waifus, but Prinz's equips and her peculiar drop rate and farming mechanism, is making farming Prinz as top priority if you got enough resources/buckets to burn.
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post Nov 26 2015, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(sI Taufu @ Nov 26 2015, 05:13 PM)
Farming no need debuff in easy mode.
Also no need debuff in hard mode.
Carrier mode in e4 is asking for trouble IMO as those light ship are not able to withstand few hits from the boss n their bodyguards.
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Formation on BOss node still 1st formation as usual?
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post Nov 26 2015, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(sI Taufu @ Nov 26 2015, 06:05 PM)
For grinding, 2nd formation.
In final kill, 1st formation n boss support. By hope it will silent Wo-kai and sink the 2 DDs in hard mode.
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I see so 2nd formation use for knocking BOSS hp (medium), until last dance then use 1st formation + boss support...
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post Nov 26 2015, 11:43 PM

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Final Dance E4-Medium

I combined S1 Taufu's setup(HARD) and my own setup(medium), because he got a hella tons of better equipments than me~
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Support Fleet
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Somehow I survive till BOSS node with a Chuuha'ed Hatsushimo

A bit over kill though:
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A perfect balance point between firepower & ASW ==> Day battle finished off the SS-HIME
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Of course this is the reward which everyone advised me to clear E4 for MEDIUM:
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post Nov 27 2015, 08:26 PM

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Anyone got idea how rare this ship is?

I got her during my 2nd run...

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post Nov 27 2015, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(sI Taufu @ Nov 27 2015, 09:01 PM)
You are bona fide Europe Admiral.
Meanwhile we, the Africa Admiral, still struggling to get even an A rank.
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After my 2nd run on E5-HARD without sparkling & without support fire, all I can say is battle between DDs is super crazy & risky...

My current fleet

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Supply sent : 22

How can you finish the TP bar faster?

Getting A-rank is not really big issue provided all other ships is destroyed except the DD-demon
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post Nov 27 2015, 10:12 PM

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double post.

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post Nov 28 2015, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(sI Taufu @ Nov 27 2015, 11:49 PM)
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Each time this setup will bring 43 buckets, 47 if giv up 1 slot in low level DD.
Sendai, shigure and kawakaze is compulsory for least battle. (Just notice i bring ushio instead of shigure in this setup)
The main thing is.....your DD must be as high level as possible for higher evasion.
2nd: without gun, CL and DD still CAN SETTLE PT Goblins and DDs in night battle and day battle, it is pure matter of RnG; Equip gun or not, if taiha still need to retreat, better gamble for more bucket so that they can reduce more greenbar IF they manage to get pass through.
3rd: DO BRING most night battle equipment EXCEPT search light unless equip with emergency response team. Focus fire on 1 particular ship in night battle is not something we can taken lightly
4th: do equip emergency repair team for the low level DD as chance for her to be taiha is very high in night battle; I equip double emergency repair team to ensure less retreat due to her. Also here is the chance to spam those hammer.

Last: Bring your BOSS SUPPORT all the time. Since the ship are not gonna in good shape most of the time, use boss support to increase likelihood for getting A rank. How much you try depends on your luck.

Oh yeah, sortie formation: line-ahead, double-line, line abreast and line-ahead.
Line abreast do increase likelihood to survive in goalkeeper-PT node
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4th run ==> A rank ==> 36 supplies => dropped ISE

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I have revised your build a bit, since I don really have more than 1 Daihatsu, nor Night Flare.

But I have Searchlight + Ar196 plane + RPG on Flagship Sendai kai only, 2 X Engines on Fubuki + Hatsushimo and place them on hot-spot(4th-5th slot)

Overall the rest all equip at least 1 RPG + 1 drum, just in case to handle any PT imp

Kawakaze: 2 repair crew as you suggested.

Formation:

If start with Day battle: Line ahead
If start with Night battle:

J node: use double line formation
L node: mostly use line abreast to avoid PT imp torpedo attack if cant wipe

Final Boss node:

1. Because I am still in TP fuel gauge phase, so I learned a hard lesson: Never engage DD-demon during night
2. A rank condition: enemy fleet all ships wiped except DD-demon flag, then can retreat during the day.



Erm, need your advice:

What support fleet you using?

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post Nov 29 2015, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(sI Taufu @ Nov 28 2015, 09:04 PM)
Hasta la vista babe.

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On my half way to clear the TP bar.

Although a bit slow, but at least now my fleet can smoothly transport supplies without being taiha'ed.

So far 2 runs without sparkle pretty safe till BOSS node then Line Ahead all out damaged for repairs(since all enemies except BOSS, must be sunk to reach A rank)
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post Nov 30 2015, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(sI Taufu @ Nov 29 2015, 10:54 AM)
I do notice that but for unknown reason, that boss use to chuha/taiha shigure and/or kitakami in night battle; so i fit the torpedo in shimapan instead. hmm.gif  hmm.gif
DD can't do much damage to the Final-Form boss in cut-in/double attack setup in night, so i simply campak the stuff i had to fill in the blanks once i apply radar and type 98 night plane to fill the LoS, then gamble for kitakami to survive in night battle and crit the boss.
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Which formation you guys use to handle:

Night battle with DD?
Night battle with PT imp?
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post Nov 30 2015, 11:13 PM

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Finally BOSS HP stage:

Recently 2 days attended AFA langsung no time rushing TP bar...

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post Dec 1 2015, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Nov 30 2015, 08:40 AM)
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E-5 Hard clear!
it s actually easier than I thought because I dont do debuff for HP boss bar and dont send support expedition

seems like CG boss changed when last HP bar not after debuff, stupid wiki mislead me with "weakening" word which I thought after debuff
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1. OTO always have penalty for CL-class/CLT ships
2. Searchlight at a lvl36 Kawakaze??? super risky without DameCon

Just to let you know, since you already cleared E5-hard...
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post Dec 1 2015, 01:55 PM

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You got Prinz too?
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post Dec 1 2015, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Dec 1 2015, 01:57 PM)
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Okie now next is Arashi~
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post Dec 1 2015, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Dec 1 2015, 02:16 PM)
1. Oto have extra boost stats than normal 15.5cm athough lost some accuracy, but night battle boost effect such as star shell and searchlight save it
2. Kawakaze only chuuha not taiha at 2 night battle mode, sometimes not at all, though I have problem when still clearing PT gauge due to she still underlevel

You should try my setup, most admirals at wiki used similar setup with mine, not risky at all

It is weird because some admiral from wiki reported no CG change even for last HP bar(easy mode)
I guess the previous debuff for PT gauge counted and not reset or either the difficulty they choose
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Tried your setup everything, in the end:

1. Weapon-wise still need to rely on own sense with RNG-sama
2. The only thing I can benefit from your setup is: your ship arrangement order, my KTKM instantly at safe from DD-demon DA/Pre-emptive and do a full damage Yasen DA.
3. In the end, my Hatsushimo with 1 Quint 1 Oxy-triple with Night crews finished the Demon off~ (Got blinking signal before insane cut-in)

But ultimately, is RNG-sama pull all kinds of stunts that helped me to finished her:

Day time:
1. Aerial support fire => 2 enemy ships sunk
2. Oni-DD Open Torpedo => only chuuha my Shigure
3. Oni-DD shelling phase => never hit anything
4. Oni-DD Closing Torpedo => chuuha my Sendai K2
5. Oni-DD hp reaching 50% before entering Yasen

Night battle:

1. Searchlight deploy by Kawakaze, Night Flare deployed by Fubuki
2. As usual Kawakaze aimed by Oni-DD, taiha'ed
3. Last Dance HP bar destroyed~

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