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thenoobone
post Feb 27 2018, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(limbie89 @ Feb 24 2018, 11:50 AM)
May i ask, if the nett (rental income - expenditures - interest) is negative, do i still need to file for tax ?

Appreciate some input

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Yes prolly still have to

the best to get a good accountant who always declare for his customer to do it for you .

Keep all resit , anything also can put under cash expenses , i didnt know bout this until recently i have to declare income tax for buying house
seems like i can declare alot so i wont be paying alot of sum towards LHDN !
thenoobone
post Feb 27 2018, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Feb 27 2018, 07:51 AM)
If the rental is non-business source, then you cannot claim losses or carry forward for offset in future years. Also there is no column to fill in negative numbers in e-filing for other income

Not “anything” can put under allowable expenses. Only limited expenses as determined by LHDN. You better be careful, as you may be penalized and have to pay hefty penalty if you simply claim expenses. LHDN is never friendly to people who claim money from them biggrin.gif

Refer to PR4/2011 for reference. http://lampiran1.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/PR4_2011.pdf
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Really?

wow then i have to discuss back with my account person , cause last time another account person randomly declare without proper documentation end up i have to pay RM22k , but already send letter to revise the account as miscalculation

But from the expenses categories being told to me is something like this

1) buy transport for business
2) staff leisure , food , etc
3) shop equipment renovation , machines etc
4) salary staff / director
5) printing accessories
6) petrol toll touchngo
7) advertisement , rental , bills
and few more

correct rite?
thenoobone
post Mar 1 2018, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Feb 27 2018, 04:45 PM)
You are talking about expenses related to a business. If your rental is considered a business source, Eg renting out a building like office tower or shopping centre, then it is a business source, you can claim those expenses you listed. Usually the business is run as a Sdn Bhd

However, for the masses who have properties under their personal name, the above expenses are not claimable because it is considered a non-business source

A lot of details and different treatment in relation to rental income in the Public Ruling 4/2011 I linked above. Including how to determine rental income is a business and non-business source
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Oh man thanks for the input

maybe thats what he meant , any resit but claim under business related spending


thenoobone
post Mar 2 2018, 04:37 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Mar 1 2018, 09:35 AM)
Not “any resit” also can claim even for business.

Be careful on entertainment, traveling, car, director’s expenses, BIK....

I am sure your accountant with experience will advise you on the proper way. Just don’t assume “everything” can claim even if it is under a business
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I just submitted to the account person

Directors expenses and car repair resit also he asked , and since i asked why he told me that can be declared under directors cash expenses ?

 

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