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SUSDavid83
post Feb 20 2019, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(mk92 @ Feb 20 2019, 10:08 AM)
Hi, I am new to the rental income declaration.

How much i would need to declare if my rented house is RM1900 per month starting from October 2018 and my house loan installment is RM2031 per month?

Hope to receive advises from anyone smile.gif

Thanks
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Please prepare a simple balance sheet to calculate how much you have to declare.
SUSDavid83
post Feb 20 2019, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 20 2019, 06:28 PM)
Prev gomen announced rental income for 2018 and 2019 only 50% subject to tax, trying to keep tab on landlords by stamping agreements.
i spent few hundreds RM on it. Is the  50% rental income tax on?

Anyone knows where to read more about it?
rental RM1000 a month just declare RM500 for tax.....?
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URL: https://kickmeaway.blogspot.com/2018/11/how...e-for-lhdn.html
SUSDavid83
post Feb 28 2019, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(utellme @ Feb 28 2019, 11:36 AM)
Hi Sifu,

I know it's small amount for the IWK bill,  Can we deduct IWK bill from the rental income of the tax return.

TIA
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Yes.
But shouldn't that bear or payable by your tenant?
SUSDavid83
post Mar 5 2019, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Mar 5 2019, 05:55 PM)
Hi,

If declare rental income thru efiling do we need to provide and calculation or evidence? Is it under pendapatan berkanun dividen dan sewa? Just fill in the amount based on own calcation will do?
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Just keep your calculation and evidence in the event of audit.
Yes. Under that section.
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post Mar 5 2019, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Mar 5 2019, 07:11 PM)
Thank you... wonder will it trigger lhdn fot audit if suddenly declare rental income.
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Not sure.
Just be ready since it's out from your normal filing trend.
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post Mar 6 2019, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(utellme @ Mar 6 2019, 01:18 PM)
Hi Sifu,

I've a appt in KL and can I claim the tax rebate for the agent fee for getting a new tenant and also appt refurbish expenses during vacant time.

I've tenant A shifted out in 31 Dec 2017 and my agent managed to get new current tenant B onboard from 1 June 2018.

Tenant  A - Mar 2016 to Dec 2017
Vacant  period -  Jan 2018-May 2018
Tenant B - Jun 2018 - Now

Can I claim the tax rebate on the followings,

- 1 month Agent fee to get new tenants  in Jun 2018
- Contractor Re-paint who appt - RM1200  in March - May2018
- Replacement of water heater due to leaking -  RM900 - Feb 2018
TIA.
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Read Page 18 onwards for Expense Relating to Income of Letting of Real Property

URL: http://lampiran1.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/PR_12_2018.pdf

Recurring expenses
(a) Assessment and quit rent
Annual assessment paid to the local authority and quit rent paid to the land office.
(b) Interest on loan
Interest paid on loan taken to finance the purchase of real property which is rented out.
© Fire insurance premium
Fire insurance premium paid in relation to fire insurance policy taken on the real property which is rented out.
(d) Expense on rent collection
Rent collection fee and legal expense incurred to enforce rent collection.
(e) Expense on rent renewal
Expense incurred to renew tenancy or to change tenant.
(f) Expense on repair
Expense on ordinary repair to maintain the real property in its existing state.

Initial expenses
Initial expense is not allowed a deduction from income of letting of real property assessed under paragraph 4(a) or paragraph 4(d) of the ITA since that expense is incurred to create a source of rental income and not incurred in the production of rental income. Examples of such expense are cost to obtain the first tenant such as advertising cost, legal cost to prepare rental agreement, stamp duty and commission for real property agent.

Expenses during a period the real property is not rented out
Expenses incurred in relation to a real property during a period it is not rented out are not allowable in calculating the adjusted income from the letting of the real property. However, if the period the real property is not rented out occurs after it has been let out and it is clear that it is ready to be let out, then expenses during that period are allowable subject to subsections 33(1) and 39(1) of the ITA.

This post has been edited by David83: Mar 6 2019, 01:51 PM
SUSDavid83
post Mar 16 2019, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(cckyew @ Mar 16 2019, 07:02 PM)
Thanks, roughly know what figure to put, but just need to find what is the interest for the loan installment.
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Go refer to your house loan annual statement.
It should tell how much of your monthly repayment amount goes to interest payment and principal deduction.
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post Mar 18 2019, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Mar 18 2019, 06:12 PM)
Did not see monthly maintenance fee in your list. For example for condominiums /apartment. Is it allowed expense/deduction?

How about sinking fund? Is it allowed expense/deduction?

TIA
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Yes you can for both.

According to this website:
https://www.liew.my/usr/pagesub2.aspx?pgid=264
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post Mar 19 2019, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 19 2019, 09:00 PM)
Thanks for the above info, what about stamping fees we paid? can claim also?

Previously i never had the tenancy agreement stamped.but now to entitle for 50% rentals declaration, stamping is a must

From 2018 i  got all agreement stamped, the fees  range from RM30-60 and penalties for late stamping RM25 each.

besides the RM400 per year  paid to agents( for sourcing new tenants, getting tenancy agreement signed  contractors to do repairs, collect rentals etc),
Can i claim as expenses, the stamping fees and late stamping penalties paid by me?

PS:

I was told, in order to be able to claim tenancy agreement expenses,
it must be a renewal agreement, ie new tenant, first agreement expenses cant claim.
Any confirmation?
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Isn't what you mentioned falls under Initial Expenses?

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Initial expenses
Initial expense is not allowed a deduction from income of letting of real property assessed under paragraph 4(a) or paragraph 4(d) of the ITA since that expense is incurred to create a source of rental income and not incurred in the production of rental income. Examples of such expense are cost to obtain the first tenant such as advertising cost, legal cost to prepare rental agreement, stamp duty and commission for real property agent.


This is also confirmed by a tax consultant in the other link shared

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SUSDavid83
post Mar 19 2019, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 19 2019, 10:44 PM)
Thanks to confirm for  First new tenant, expenses on agreement and stamp duty all cant claim.

and every subsequent new Tenant for that same old house,
is it the same? the  expenses on first agreement for every new tenant ,all cant claim?

SO if every year change new tenant, landlord lose out cant claim....
mine are all old tenants and the agreement there stated as renewal agreement,
must ask my agent to strike out that sourcing tenants...
Cant find any where above on stamping fees  can claim or not.
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Stamping fee and stamp duty not the same?

If for new tenant, cannot claim
If for current tenant via tenancy renewal, can claim.

As simple and straight forward as I believe.
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post Apr 9 2019, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(gc68 @ Apr 9 2019, 01:19 PM)
Hi, my brother and I share 2 properties @ 50%:50%

Both are apartments -
Property #1 - Has been vacant for many many years
Property #2 - it was cleaned up and rented out in Aug 2018, from Jan-Jul 2018, it was vacant.

For my rental income reporting :
1. Can I deduct the cost of management fees from Jan-Jul 2018 for  Apartment #2 from the rental income when I calculate nett income?
(The tenancy agreement was singed by tenant, me and my brother)

2. I hired come cleaning ladies and plumber to do up the place before I rent it out. I have receipts for the service. Can I deduct these as expenses?

3. Tenant wanted an extra queen size bed. So I went out and got a brand new one for his family. Can I deduct that furnishing as expense?

4. Apartment #1 is empty and we still have to pay the management fees. Can we deduct the management from the income of Apartment #1 when we report income?

5. I will be reporting my 50% portion of the total income from the rental, is that correct?

Thanks for your advice.
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If you got time, spend some time to do some readings:
http://lampiran1.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/PR_12_2018.pdf

It also lists down type of expenses: Recurring expenses, Initial expenses and Expenses during a period the real property is not rented out

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