the uniform doesn't look like atm punya
and the askar look like thai/myanmar/cambodia

The m16 was too long for jungle and vehicle based operations so they found a shorter rifle but not compromising range.

But the a-holes at SMEO couldn't build a proper AUG so the army found a carbine that unsurprisingly is now manufactured by the same geniuses behind the Malaysian Steyr.

So now the army now have a shit rifle made by a shitty company that also made the previous shitty rifle.

Two types of ammo, two training modules, two rifles and zero sense

Welcome to Malaysia

That picture has more Chinese looking guys in it than the whole of tentera darat.

the shift from conventional to bullpup back to conventional layout is the part that makes no sense for me, as you mentioned two training modules to confuse everyone.

ammo not nato 5.56 for both? or you mean magazine?

good kill !!! good kill !! good killl !!!

This is pinoy marines, includes also some female recuits





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The steyr uses a 62 grain bullet. The majority of army supply is 55 grain. Hopefully with all the bullets fired during Lahad Datu, they replaced it with the standard SS109

this Tango Foxtrot Lima Two-Two, good impact,
negative on any movement at ground zero

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Difference between AH-1 Cobra vs Ah-64 Apache





The AH-1 and AH-64 fit the differing needs of the respective services. The AH-1 might be an older design and have less sophisticated electronics, but its slimmer profile makes it easier to operate from ships. This enables the AH-1 to provide support to Marines staging amphibious assaults and operate from smaller forward operating bases. Also, the AH-1 shares many components with the UH-1 Huey, a helicopter used by the Marines for transport and other missions.

The AH-64 is a larger helicopter with more sophisticated sensors, etc... The big drawback when compared to the AH-1 is size. The Marines would have less helicopters to provide close air support from ships if they had AH-64s. Also, the AH-64 fulfilled the Army's requirement to fight a mechanized war in Europe better because of the more advanced sensors and longer range. The Marines did not plan to get into a fight with the Soviet armored units in Germany, but to storm ashore somewhere in the world. The AH-1 can hunt tanks well, but the AH-64 is designed to do it better.

The Apache is a true attack hellicopter, with a full compliment of Hellfire missiles, FFARs, a 30mm cannon, and Stingers for self-defense... the exact things you need to raise hell in an enemy armored cav division. Its big and has 4 rotor blades, armor and sophisticated avionics. In the Army it replaced the Cobra back in the 80's. It is a formidable, maneuverable, and tough anti-tank and close air support weapon.

The Marines, on the other hand, still operate the Cobra, but their current model is the AH-1W SuperCobra, a twin-engine variant of the original. Its more powerful and a lot more capable that the original AH-1s. The Marines still use it because, like many things in the Marine Corps, it is steeped in tradition and hesitant to change. Thats the same reason the Marines still use the M-16 even when there are newer, better weapons out there. The Marines still use the AH-1 because it takes up a small area on their amphibious assault ships and they claim, at least, it can carry a wider variety of armament. It is also an awesome piece of hardware, but it is primarilly used for close air support of Marine amphibious landings.

The Apache and the Cobra are two different beasts. While both attack helicopters, they each effectively fill each branches's individual niche.

another reason is that unlike the army (which has bottomless coffer), the marine are quite cash-strapped(since their budget comes from navy instead of directly from DoD). they already have established logistics for the likes of huey and cobras and it would be ridiculous to retrain personnel and replace all them logistic supply chain just to induct a system.

when the Army gets their garand, the marines are still with their springfield and brodie helmet. when the army gets them M1, the marine are still with their M60A1 (A1, not A3). in a sense, most of marine equipments are hands-me-down from the army

the 4 US services all have the "not made here" syndrome.

Never thought it was possible for a passenger to ride outside a AH 64 before.. searched and found this:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showt...64-Apache-Style

Seems it's doable on a Super Cobra too

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I was wondering the same thing..nasib baik no missile there..

Asalkan bukan cam ni.....

So back to my question, how do we dispose our steyr since we adopt M4 as our standard rifle?



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This post has been edited by kinabalu: Oct 20 2013, 12:06 AM

iinm no. of M4 in ATM disposal is only 10,000..and mostly used by Paras and spec ops element..regulars still use steyr and M16..and in the future, those Steyr would most probably given to Wataniah and other agencies like PDRM, APMM, Imigresen..

where did we dumped our SLR and HK33? (and most of them reject M16 guns)

i guess the same thing can be said to them Steyr in the future. well we aint gonna give them to pinoy again fosho

Whose aircraft (or maybe drone?) TUDM shot down ?



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