both are important, in term of capability i think the airforce are up to date just lacking quantity.

i think for mrca we shud wait for su 35 or check on it simply because its cheaper then all the mrca contender except gripen and more advance

Both Mica Land System and Mica VL systems have been designed to offer a highly effective, rapid reaction, all-weather air defence against the widest range of threats. Both MICA air defence systems feature vertical launch, a very short reaction time and a high firing rate. In addition they can both engage several targets simultaneously and provide 360° defence coverage without costly dedicated tracking and guidance suites.
As with the air-to-air weapon, the MICA fire and forget missile features a thrust vector control system and two seeker variants, active radar or infrared imaging.
VL MICA (Naval)


Developed to provide the capabilities of a Point Defence Missile System (PDMS), an Inner Layer Missile System (ILMS) and a Close-In Weapon System (CIWS) to counter a potential saturating anti-ship missile attack.


The VL MICA (Naval) launch canister is key to the system. Canisters can be installed in machined and aligned slots in a silo structure, part or fully buried in the ship’s deck. Alternatively, the canisters can be installed alongside the ship’s hangar or any suitable vertical bulkhead. Installation in a wide range of either new or retrofit warships, from fast patrol craft to major vessels, is therefore relatively easy. The canister serves as the storage and transportation unit as well as the vertical launcher. Missile system life cycle costs can therefore be minimized.

Target designation can be derived direct from the ship’s Combat Management System (CMS) with target data from a 3-D surveillance radar. Systems integration is facilitated via an electronic interface unit installed below deck. Each interface unit links eight VL MICA missiles to the CMS. As the system does not require dedicated target trackers, it has a truly 360° engagement capability.

Source : http://www.mbda-systems.com/mbda/site/ref/...a-Naval_95.html

" Developed to provide the capabilities of a Point Defence Missile System (PDMS), an Inner Layer Missile System (ILMS) and a Close-In Weapon System (CIWS) to counter a potential saturating anti-ship missile attack. " Hmm 3 in one.

This post has been edited by Phillip_x: Oct 30 2013, 03:32 PM

the job of most shipborne SAM is more to shoot down incoming missile then to engage enemy aircraft. With the profileration of the stand off weapons in the market, the launching aircraft can stay well outside the envelope of most of the long and medium range SAM operational today.

If it's true, then our Navy can secretly equipped our Lekiu-class with MICA. Oh waiii....

This post has been edited by pcboss00: Oct 30 2013, 03:36 PM

to be precisely, to eliminate any flying/airborne threat within it range. asm, helicopter, plane, uav even witch on a broom stick.

This post has been edited by pcboss00: Oct 30 2013, 04:20 PM

VL Mica: Weight 112 kg, Length 3.1 m, Diameter 0.16 m
VL Sea Wolf: Weight 140 kg, Length 3 m, Diameter 0.18 m


"a vertical launching capacity already validated by several Mica ground-to-air firings, the mass-produced VL Seawolf modular container launcher fully compatible with the Mica "

Source : http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/wor...ope/mica-vl.htm

This post has been edited by Phillip_x: Oct 30 2013, 03:45 PM

Apparently the land based Mica uses the Seawolf launchers as well.



This post has been edited by Phillip_x: Oct 30 2013, 04:06 PM

then its understandable if we choose mica. Maybe people expect more since the price of single frigate quite high

then this role engaging enemy aircraft are solely the airforce which why mrca come to mind. Now i understand haha

that explain why Indo Nakhoda ragam replace seawolf with MICA.

somehow true..yet what better way to defend the ship from incoming air-launched anti-ship missile than to shoot down the platform from which it came from?

for 1+ billion/ship, we should be getting better stuff.

Also because MBDA will no longer be producing or supporting Seawolf in a few years time. Sea Wolf is scheduled to leave service about 2018 in UK and will be replaced by CAMM (Common Anti-Air Modular Missile) and in the Royal Navy it will be called the Sea Ceptor.

This post has been edited by Phillip_x: Oct 30 2013, 04:53 PM

for this debacle, someone is getting a better deal

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Yep, most of the people here dont like the value we get for the money. If its cheap then ok but this ? The ciws problem i dont mind since the 57mm gun can use the new ammo to shoot incoming missile, if lucky or get to hit one.

but Smart-s 3D radar not Support Aster....

its either essm or mica right? correct me if i wrong

yaya.....

Yes, you are right but we were talking of launchers / missiles compatibility .

This post has been edited by Phillip_x: Oct 30 2013, 05:30 PM