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SkyDriver
post Dec 16 2007, 04:25 PM

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just get the mx5021...

i will take some time to mod the cable later smile.gif
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post Dec 18 2007, 12:14 AM

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my DIY cable done tongue.gif
spent few hours for it sweat.gif

pic up later~!
SkyDriver
post Dec 18 2007, 01:27 AM

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** sorry for low quality picture tongue.gif

QUOTE(shinjun @ Dec 18 2007, 12:43 AM)
I must sound sweet than before. brows.gif
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Obviously improved!
very satisfy with the result...


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post Dec 19 2007, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(~@.@~ @ Dec 18 2007, 02:05 AM)
Hi, SkyDriver...could provide some tips on the cable modin to improve the sound....

could it apply to any 2.1 pc speaker system???
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just connect it with bigger speaker cable will do.

for the DIY stereo cable,
its easy, but if you want to make a strong and well cable, really need some skills (experiences)
ps : make sure the cable did not short circuit

depends on the input / output, if same then ok.


Added on December 19, 2007, 12:26 am
QUOTE(Faint @ Dec 18 2007, 08:25 AM)
The MX5021 stock cable sucks, but till now i haven replace it by other cable sad.gif  because dunno which brand to choose... SkyDriver can provide some information ?
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go to electronic shops and choose the bigger (thick) cable.



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post Dec 20 2007, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(TaQ @ Dec 20 2007, 01:19 AM)
sweet cables!! sky driver may i ask if the improvement comes from the stereo cables or speaker cables? i have not changed my stereo cables from sub 2 pc
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both i believe, but more on speaker cable


QUOTE(Faint @ Dec 20 2007, 01:51 AM)
Any brand ?
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no idea

QUOTE(~@.@~ @ Dec 20 2007, 05:28 PM)
the speaker cable is the cable connect to pc while the stereo cable is the one connect between woofer n the 2 speakers??? or versa vice???
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i dont get you =.=

anyway,

stereo cable = sound card to subwoofer (amp)
speaker cable = subwoofer to satelite speaker

SkyDriver
post Jan 16 2008, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(Faint @ Jan 7 2008, 06:13 PM)
http://jimmyauw.com/2007/03/15/inside-altec-mx5021/
Any Lowyat member did this before ? Where can do this or DIY ?
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i will try this out =)

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give up to mod the satelite, since its a cut cost product from AL =.=


compare the board

This is mine rclxub.gif
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lousy mod from cut cost product
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This is an old version...
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and this is moded from old version vmad.gif
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post Jan 19 2008, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(Faint @ Jan 18 2008, 09:23 AM)
Which speaker you mod ? MX5021 ? Any diff after mod ?
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Just finish it today...

need some time to test it, anyway its more powerful now.

pic up later....
SkyDriver
post Jan 20 2008, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(Faint @ Jan 19 2008, 06:56 PM)
Wow! So hope to see the picture after you mod ASAP  drool.gif  drool.gif  I can't wait anymore
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i posted in somewhere else...
pm me for the link.

hope i got time to post here too... tongue.gif
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post Jan 21 2008, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jan 20 2008, 10:27 PM)
just saw the skydriver MX5021 modding...I saw the removed dust shield of ur satellite, the shield was glued original,right? and wanna ask u whether got listened to the "original" MX5021 or not? How the sound compared to the so called "cut cost" version of MX5021? because sometimes said it is cut cost product just judging in term of the numbers of electronic component used inside is not fair(The earlier version is 3-way crossover, latter version 2-way)....because i saw the earlier version of MX5021 satellite midrange drivers are flat at center, the redesign of crossover maybe due to changes of that drivers...
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I did not remove the satelite dust shield, not sure either it's glued or not.

I dont have the old (original) version, but i read from a review claims that new version isnt THX certified.
still remember VS4121? (cut cost product from AL...)

the diff is not only the caps in satelite, but the outlook of the speaker inside (satelite and even woofer)
who know the quality got effected or not?
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Faint @ Jan 21 2008, 05:56 PM)
Are you sure the new version of MX5021 has no THX certified ?
What can i do to meet the THX certified ?
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i mean a review website claims that new version doesnt meet the THX certified level, im not sure about it (since we cant even measure it)

ntg we can do "to make" the speaker to meet the THX certified, since its certify by a company. (already certified)

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jan 22 2008, 12:14 AM)
no THX certified? U means the THX logo is "cheating" is it? sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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since the THX company didnt take back the title, we still assume the MX5021 is THX certified...

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post Jan 23 2008, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jan 23 2008, 02:57 AM)
RM400+? where u get that price?i saw the price list from pczone of lawyat, FX4021 cost RM595, 10 more than 5021....

MX5021 very good in low bass extension, and the mid range full and rich, but the high frequency a bit less...but it isn't problem for me, I won't trust any default sound on ANY SPEAKER, i only use WINAMP to listen song, i just tune the equalizer to compensate the lack of high frequencies, 12-16khz i raise 4dB, 3-6khz pull down 2dB, this adjustment is enough to reproduced the "crisp" treble...MX5021 is tunable, really....
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personally, MX5021's bass is very blurry, unlike klipsch GMX-A (the bass is punching clearly).

adjust the EQ means you spoilt the song composer's setting, who used few hundred thousands in editing equipment.

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post Jan 23 2008, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jan 23 2008, 02:11 PM)
"adjust the EQ means you spoilt the song composer's setting", this is common phrase i heard so much time...but please keep in mind that unless u are using the EXACTLY same speaker as the composer, if not equalizer tuning is unavoidable...of course must know how to tune, if not really will spoilt it (if u tried or saw the audio system used in performance purpose, NO ANY of them are flat in EQ, impossible)
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you got your own point, but i still prefer to keep the original sound for home use, and there's another story for those pro audio system.


QUOTE(hpares @ Jan 23 2008, 10:49 PM)
Btw anyone using MX5021 and change the satelite cable? Coz i can hear cracking sound, juz bought around 2 month, should not so fast spoil gua.
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what kind of sound card that you're using?
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post Jan 24 2008, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(hpares @ Jan 24 2008, 04:25 AM)
My is not hissing sound. It sound like "pak"  almost like Fm radio or TV when the are tunning. I deno how to explain. Juz sound like "pak" during movie or song. Pak 1 time only. Wont continous pak 1. But in 1 song should got 2 or 3 times . I deno how to explain. Juz hope changing thesatelite wire will help.
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This is unusual case, try to test your speaker with other input (such as dvd player, handphone, mp3player...)

btw, the "pak" sound came out from tweeter only? or?

i guess there's something wrong with your power board or sound card

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post Jan 25 2008, 08:59 PM

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personally, the subwoofer of MX5021 is totally suks when i compare it with klipsch gmx's subwoofer. (darn blurry bass from mx5021).

**i'm not comparing the power of the output, but the sound quality...

sound card : prodigy 7.1
front speaker : MX5021
rear speaker : GMX
setup (setting) : clone 4-way form out 1, 2
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post Jan 26 2008, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(TaQ @ Jan 25 2008, 11:12 PM)
skydriver: hm.... the bass feels like its seperated from the tweeter? ... maybe its d crossover .... cause it feels like dat on some songs 2 me ... i miss my creative FPS2000 hahahah

Added on January 25, 2008, 11:16 pm
on muddy bass ... yeah ... i feel it 2... but d bass sounds like d speakers from d huge system i mentioned earlier ... so maybe its jus designed like dat ....
not seperated from the tweeter, just blurry...

with GMX, i can hear the "bass hit" clearly, even i can count it... 1st hit, 2nd hit, 3rd, 4th....
but MX5021 just produce the continuous "bass hit", non-stop between two hit.

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jan 25 2008, 11:36 PM)
Blurry bass? Need Puncy upfront bass? Then i think other than klipsch GMX,  the bass from AL VS4121 should suit ur both taste...just guess only... hmm.gif
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VS4121? rclxub.gif
the bass make me sick.

QUOTE(Faint @ Jan 26 2008, 10:51 AM)
I think they means the MX5021's bass not tight enough ?! But VS4121 totally out of this, its bass seems like the woofer box got one big hole  sweat.gif
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tight? solid?
the bass is powerful, but sound flat...

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post Jan 28 2008, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jan 27 2008, 08:51 PM)
Yap, in the same hostel, vs4121 bass sound really can spread further distance compare with MX5021, but i don't feel that bass sound is better than MX5021..

personally i don't agree with lowering the treble furthermore because i feel that the treble "not so clear" or "not crisp enough" in default unless u are watching movie, but i do agree that the bass "thud(blur/aftereffect)thud(blur/aftereffect)thud" make the bass effect more depth and undirectional, with proper placement of the subwoofer and some EQ tweaking(i still stand on my point that EQ tweaking is unavoidable icon_rolleyes.gif ), u can't determine the bass direction precisely and the bass is just coming from all the direction, it is not "upfront", so it is not "puncy" for some people...

but for me the "muddy/blur/continuous" bass between two hit is somewhat a "connector" on it, the bass is continuous...so this is just the taste matter of different user, this is not because AL wrongly design this kind of "suck/muddy,blur" bass, i define it as "soft bass", many hardware review said it is revolution redesign of the woofer unit and totally different from previous model which well known as "bass boomer", so don't said MX5021 bass is suck just because compare to the puncy bass u like, is unfair, they are just two kind of totally different design...need puncy/upfront bass? just go for klipsch GMX or logitech Z-XX00 series or maybe...tight/solid/puncy car audio... sweat.gif
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maybe the VS4121 is designed for blurry bass too whistling.gif

well, the mx5021 really sound better with 2/5 (volume setting for treble and bass)...

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post Apr 24 2008, 03:01 AM

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the pic is in my directory (you can check it from the file path) sweat.gif
anyway, i found it from a reviews website which claims the new version isnt THX certified.
i have no idea since never comparing new and original version side by side...

personally, the bass is blurry and the treble is crispy (note : satelite caps is diff for both version)

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post Apr 24 2008, 09:29 PM

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@domo_kun
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coolkwc,
try to google with chinese
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post Apr 25 2008, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 24 2008, 11:18 PM)
i don't think same class as AegoM....Maybe AL FX6021 same class with it...

MX5021 same class as Klipsch GMX2.1 and Logitech Z-2300, these 3 all were THX certified, and the price also neck to neck
same class in price...

performance losing quite alot to klipsch gmx-a 2.1 (gmx not thx certified if no mistaken)...



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post Apr 27 2008, 01:19 PM

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vs4121 is ear killing speaker smile.gif
the bass is freaking blurry, and treble is suk (grating)

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