PS4 wired?

charging the controller la, its a mini usb cable. same with PS3

Bila z1 nk jual ni? Ada jugak terbeli note3 nti.

Next month..sabor..

already got seller taking orders in garage sales. nice price as well, as low as 2.1k but include the dock as well

next week get phone they claim

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 22 2013, 12:00 AM

I may not have been that clear with my statement, or maybe you missed the photo.

My comment has nothing to do with the shape, how round, how hexoganish etc. the bokeh is. Again, refer to the image below.



It is to do with the texture within the bokeh itself. Compare between the Tamron and the Nikon. What do you see? The Nikon's bokeh is smooth and milky. The Tamron's bokeh on the other hand, has a similar texture to that of a sliced onion, hence the term "Onion Bokeh". See embedded image below in the spoiler for that of a sliced onion to see the similarity.



Now, referring back to the image taken from the Vietnamese website, ignoring the shape of the bokeh (center bokehs are round, bokehs on the sides will be different).



Viewing the image in the spoiler, you can see especially in the center bokeh, there are clear evidences of the Onion textures.

I hope this is clear now. I understand the mechanics of bokeh, how round it is dependent on the aperture blades etc., which is a whole different issue. I am talking about the texture of it. Not its shape.

Actually, I would rather it not have the bokeh if it is going to be the onion ones. LOL.

It is one reason I ended up paying extra for a 24-70mm 2.8L even though the Tamron is much cheaper. It gets really messy and dirty. But of course that's subjective. One person's poison is another person's perfume.

Edit: To place the onion photo into a spoiler so as to not affect the post size.

This post has been edited by Areas Elysian: Sep 22 2013, 12:56 AM

oh. Ok, get it.

Smooth sure look nice and clean.

mmhmmm

Smooth would be preferable. I rather have no bokeh at all than to have one that's onion shaped, but gotta wait for someone to really test it. Could be an issue with the macro clip that guy was using.

Guys, what is the rrp of this in Msia eh? Any leaked news yet? I tried to search xperia z1 in lelong.my and mudah.my and the price ranges from 2199 to 2699....mudah.my got 1 shop at penang selling at 2199 with 1 year warranty...

official RRP - 2399 include charging dock as standard

any higher price consider as rip off


there's sellers offering lower price than RRP now for pre orders. but be careful don't get conned by tempting offers

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 22 2013, 01:19 AM

Ya, possible also.

Spotted two photography professional here!

Sony really should come out with a QX10/QX100 bundle man... LOL

I know lumia 1020 is very good in camera, but really the reviewer have to bash the xperia z1 so badly, at the same time praise other flagship like HTC one, s4, and lg g2 ? htc one capture great photo, but Z1 Not to mention that even the downsampled shots are nothing to write home about and the full resolution 20MP photos are lackluster

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_1020-review-989p13.php

this time gsmarena is really opposite from phonearena haha. this time round phonearena give Z1 a 9.2 / 10 which considered very high for a sony phone. well i guess different reviewers got different opinions

i pointed out that the conclusion is biased and not fair for z1, and my comment got deleted =.=
what should i say? a very trusted and fair website for phone now turn into what?

I really missed the photo.
Cheers.

haha gsmarena slowly biased towards samsung and lg maybe ? lg received good review as well

but reading back their Z review, it seems they do tht review just fine. maybe they expected way too much from Z1 like certain forumers here

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 22 2013, 12:25 PM

Well, samsung position this as Lumia killer

Well that's why we always read a few reviews instead of depending on 1 review. Reviewers are human also and everyone have different preference and expectation.