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 [V1] Nokia Lumia 1020, most powerful cameraphone in this planet

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post Sep 20 2013, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(arbelnox @ Sep 20 2013, 04:49 PM)
To be honest, I kinda doubt its battery life. As you all know, battery life on specs sheet is always boasted, real life battery life is usually about 80% - 85% of specs sheet.
So, I guess your safe bet will be wearing 2 WATCHES on your wrist everyday in case your Galaxy Gear battery is flat before end of the day.

But then, many people still think that Galaxy Gear is more useful than camera grip, so... just let them enjoy their galaxy Gear then.
I rather have Pebble as smart watch... BUT it doesn't support Windows Phone. So another weakness of Windows Phone, no other accessories partner aside Nokia's partner.
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It act as a multimedia devices if necessary I dont think ppl will play 24/7 on the watch screen.
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post Sep 20 2013, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(arbelnox @ Sep 20 2013, 05:06 PM)
Exactly. If that 25 hours is for continuous usage, then it still can works as a watch at least, BUT if this 25 hours is only standy hours, god can only hope how many ACTUAL hours that this Smart Gear can last to be functional as a watch.
It is quite embarrassed for me if someone asks me for time and I have to tell him that my watch battery just flat cos it is too smart
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hahhahahahah yea indeed. But its quite cool to read your text on your watch and also take photo.
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post Sep 21 2013, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(weirdguy @ Sep 21 2013, 10:26 AM)
Yeah, can say that Lumia 1020 is really such a special phone and user just couldn't wait longer to get hold as soon as possible

stringfellow, care to share the total amount how much you purchased? Inclusive all related fees.
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Not special enough for ppl to camp 1 week earlier outside the shop or fight over it
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:28 AM

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Getting one but of course not at the pre sale price. I will consider when it reach half.
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post Sep 23 2013, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(KoYuKii @ Sep 22 2013, 09:22 PM)
L1020 selling for RM999. wahahahaha...

http://www.mudah.my/Nokia+Lumia+1020-23421097.htm

alert: not promoting, im just sharing.
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hahaha 1.2 megapixel camera
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post Sep 23 2013, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(Che Guevara @ Sep 22 2013, 11:40 PM)
Xirality,

Totally agreed. Lumia is good but it is not suits me well. Sold Galaxy S4 and bought 925. Used it for 2 days and sold it. Buy S4 again.

I have to be very careful deciding a phone next time smile.gif
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Sound like you a rich guy thats the benefit of do not know what you want in life. Like said to alot WP phones are 2nd phone not 1st
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post Sep 23 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Sep 23 2013, 02:07 PM)
buy 1st , think later
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2.5k for a camera phone that will depreciate within 6months or less better caution. That price u can get alot better phones.

U can even combo a nokia 808 purewiew with an android phone biggest concern is battery life
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post Sep 23 2013, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Sep 23 2013, 04:13 PM)
Right now Note 3 also RM2,399 which will also depreciate few hundred after few months like previous Sammy phone, lol...
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If u done your research nobody can beat nokia deprecating value.
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post Sep 24 2013, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(monocle @ Sep 24 2013, 08:47 AM)
In Malaysia, everybody will go crazy when Note or S series launch the next model..
They don't bother about specs, do they even use the functions, as long as it is a Samsung..
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But before you say that do you know why?

With android u have choice to choose which feature you want to use or not.

On windows phone you dont even have a choice they tell you what you should need and charge you higher than everybody.

Its alright for fanboy worship it but at least make it clear why you worship it.

Many of us are nokia users please think why most switch. Nokia spec since symbian always the lowest android start with 1ghz nokia still 480mhz to 600mhz. When android go to dual core nokia still 680mhz I was there my nokia n8 and nokia c7 and x7 was there. I remember leo the lion show me his brand new samsung galaxy S2 .We told nokia so many times the OS is unstable and lag due to spec even ram is ridiculously low.

When android comes quad core nokia still 1ghz. Only nokia lumia 920 is dual core. Keep telling user you dont need high spec.

Talk about spec nokia killed their OS

1st they kill meego
2nd kill symbian

Now windows phone will it get killed nobody knows

While android 1.0 to now 4.3 still upgrading

Apple from first ios now ios 7

Many ppl tried to give windows phone a try but end up tons of limitation and disappointments. I recommended 3 lumia to my friends all end up complaining to me. Even my own lumia suddenly died cant turn on.

If you follow nokia trend you watch them kill themselves stage by stage from most successful until they sold off the company. Even that time I was using skype on windows phone .It keep crashing when I initiative a voice call. Then got WhatsApp problem and etc its endless that why ppl switch.

The friends I recommend nokia lumia they complaint is after switch to android complaint stops.

Even my buddy that first phone is nokia until last year nokia also gave up and switch to iPhone 5.

I am just sharing the history we been with nokia products and not for fanboy to show off they support brand blindly okay.

The downfall of nokia is cause by them and not the users.


Android does lag but since jellybean heck its smooth and real time multitasking unlike windows phone u cant and it still lags. Wtf

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post Sep 24 2013, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(weirdguy @ Sep 24 2013, 01:08 PM)
I know. I know and I know.
I grew tired of your continuous voicing of Windows Phone Limitation and others. I truly understand that you have every right to voice and inform others.

You are very correct over the limitation.
If you wish express your regret and embarrassment using WP and introduce it to others, kindly express it in a understandable way so others whoever wish to get into WP bandwagon understand the risks, pro and cons. 

I have been with WP since Mozart and then now Lumia 620. Windows Phone serve me alright. I am happy with it so far. Yes, sometimes I get tired of slow updates and some of the basic features. Once in a while, I envy of some features in Android or iOS.
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I did previously but a fan boy got so piss and angry. Try search for my reply on that
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post Sep 26 2013, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 25 2013, 06:03 PM)
Actually they can price it much lower. As I said previously, there maybe a team which do price survey and they may also check how much people are willing to pay... so if they see many people mentioned they willing to pay higher, so it may affect their final decision on what to price the product........

Just share some insights here.

Moreover, just imagine how many people who actually initially wanted to get the Lumia 1020, but after saw the price, they bought the Note 3 which just released.... Nokia just lost some of their customers again, how they want people to switch to Nokia or Microsoft who wants their Customer to switch to Windows Phone. Once the customer change new phone, how long for them to change again, and if they gets comfortable with the platform, it's another obstacle for MS to draw these customers.
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For that price tag I would go for note 3. Maybe nokia using their old strategy like always test water.

If note 3+ carl zeiss optics of 41mp I dont mind to pay for 2.5k.

Nokia highest price trademark was nokia n96 at 2.9k

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post Sep 27 2013, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(noorimanyosh @ Sep 26 2013, 06:35 PM)
Just buy the freaking damn phone already and sell off any phone you have in your hand right now laugh.gif
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not worthy it. Because the 1020 will lose value within 3 months then it will be pain in the tut tut to accept its resell value.
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post Sep 27 2013, 04:25 AM

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QUOTE(noorimanyosh @ Sep 27 2013, 04:07 AM)
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why dont say that to all these persons queueing for the Note 3
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I would rather queue for Note 3 than a Nokia Lumia 1020 at its price tag. For its overall OS performance and limitation the price tag is overpriced.

Reason is simple free samsung gear. While Nokia grip if made in china might worth RM60 or RM70 while the samsung gear can reach RM500 - RM900

2nd If u used a note 2 you know why its worth to get note 3. All my notes all mostly written by s-pen.

My contacts on the phone are link to google contacts while my contacts on lumia making a mess in my live account.

The main selling point is the S-pen. You can draw, you can crop, you write text, you can colour and if the s-pen is too far away from the phone it will tell you.

Nokia free gifts are getting crappier and overprice now. Back then when Nokia Lumia 900 u get a free monster headset dude. Its call giving massive value but nokia value is at least we gave you something than nothing.


If you have follow nokia products. Nokia practice limited stock to show that there is high demand but actually its not.
Nokia store got example 30 units that the maximum sold out u need wait 1 week for stock new arrive.

Samsung practice everywhere got stock until sold out.

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QUOTE(ikram_p @ Sep 27 2013, 06:42 AM)
well you assume all is made in china, and you assume nokia ""malaysia"" only got 30 stock per week. i also a guy who is disappointed with nokia 1020 price tag, but i will not fall as low as this. And you assume that the s-pen is the ultimate tool for everyone else hahaha sweat.gif ...
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i never assume s-pen is for everyone like i also dont assume you mastering 41MP performance/ Can i doubt you and every single person here capable to achieve the highest ultimate image quality with the 41 Megapixels? Or simply snap because its 41MP. I do not know who took the 41MP imagine earlier dont you notice the output because the exposure the picture is damaged with 41Megapixels.

Like you assume paying overpriced for a device that do not have high demand in the market is alright?
If your assumption is correct this thread wont be in V1 sifu. So sifu you can blindly assumption we can also see difference i am making a point for some to understand and not like you assumption for the sake of assuming.

because that person bring up note 3 so i just explain without blindly assuming like you SIFU notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(arbelnox @ Sep 27 2013, 08:29 AM)
To be honest, I'm actually kinda disappointed by the noise level that 1020 captured when zoom in. Guess it still cannot completely replace a dedicated camera it seems.

However, it still beats most RM 1K digital cameras and smartphones kaw kaw in term of camera performance.
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It can be reduce if you know the right settings

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post Sep 28 2013, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(marauderz @ Sep 28 2013, 05:30 PM)
Afternoon sky.
http://zoom.it/KyK8n
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sifu i know you are professional but the photo feels very dull and boring. Can try take more interesting stuff like KLCC, flowers, fountain, pavilion,decorative or things that are colorful.

sifu if u zoom in there alot of noise especially daylight something is not right.

Sifu i did this with a crap Samsung Galaxy Note 2 camera without OIS, small sensor, 8Megapixels non carl zeiss. i think you should try to take something similar like this with a 41MP to push the limits and unveil the real potential how a 41MP image looks like from a mobile phone.

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20130822_113447.jpg by JTproductions, on Flickr

Exif data
Camera Samsung Galaxy Note II
Exposure 0.01 sec (1/100)
Aperture f/2.6
Focal Length 3.7 mm
ISO Speed 80
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Flash No Flash
Image Width 3264
Image Height 2448
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution 72 dpi
Y-Resolution 72 dpi
Software N7100XXDMF2
Date and Time (Modified) 2013:08:22 11:34:47
YCbCr Positioning Centered
Exposure Program Aperture-priority AE
Date and Time (Original) 2013:08:22 11:34:47
Date and Time (Digitized) 2013:08:22 11:34:47
Brightness Value 4.7421875
Max Aperture Value 2.6
Metering Mode Center-weighted average


Sifu another example i took of KLCC using a Nokia 808 pureview 41MP without OIS

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Nokia 808 Pureview @ KLCC Night by JTproductions, on Flickr

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post Sep 30 2013, 07:06 PM

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Nokia is giving people opportunity to get a trial device and also travel to join.

Post your photos here
http://www.talenthouse.com/photograph-for-...ic?thpr#details
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post Oct 1 2013, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(lyetuckmeng @ Sep 30 2013, 10:36 PM)
testing, 5MP, ISO 100 , EV +0.3

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finally some proper shot. It wont be amazing if its 5MP. Try 41MP

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QUOTE(ikram_p @ Sep 30 2013, 11:49 PM)
i am not a pro photographer...so this is like an auto mode  sweat.gif .

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with OIS and still blur
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post Oct 1 2013, 01:09 PM

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U guys are kidding me. Flickr is free and give you tons of storage. It allows you to email your photo to upload.You can choose the size of the image without re upload and also post in sets.

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