No matter poisoning a review is, it's more important to try it yourself first.

Just like the Nokia 808 PureView, it can produce good image quality, no other smartphones camera even come close to it. BUT, it's not as easy and nice to use as other smartphone cameras.
Example: The focusing is poor, tends to prefer slow shutter speed in auto mode (resulting in blur shots if you take action/movement).
The Lumia 1020 PureView comes with OIS so it may have higher tendency to use slower shutter speed which is not ideal if you're shooting moving subjects.
Quality is one thing, usability is another.

Just a reminder for those who's too excited to get one without first trying it, in case later, they feel frustrated especially after paying so much. Remember to try and test it first.

I believe the this category phone replacement is another year at least?
Unless you're not specifically targeting this category phone from Nokia?

After re-considering, since there is no Micro-SD Slot, I think the 64GB version might be better option, but sadly not available here, and the current "unique" price is only for 32GB.
If you only took photos, should be OK, but if you also take video especially at Full HD quality, it's gonna be pain when you've run out of space.

Nice Price? You could get the Nokia 808 PureView which has slightly larger sensor and similar 41MP (and better performance due to dedicated image processor) at RM1899 launch price. Sometime earlier this year, there was deals for RM999.

Nonetheless, it could never compare with a DSLR even if you shoot at lowest ISO settings under bright daylight (if you actually check the details).

Back then, as long as it's Nokia lolz
The customer just 'switch' to Samseng thanks to Nokia which does not offer alternatives/choice for the users.

Sorry about that, not trying to shoot you. It's a forum, just sharing information or explain, not trying to shoot or any of that sort. If I did express in such way, then I'm sorry about that. Just your reply gives me the impression that you didn't know that there was another 41MP smartphone available before L1020, and regarding the DSLR comparison, it's just a general explanation as many people may think it's as good as DSLR. You're not average DSLR user, so, my bad.

Cheers.

Yea, I notice you mentioned 5D, I guess I wasn't thinking that time, my bad, hehe

Yes, planning to get it, but not at this price. Waiting to replace the 808 PureView, as you said, WP8. Symbian is OK for normal phone usage. WP8 would offer much better usage experience, plus the social network integration is great in WP, and to top it off the L1020 comes with OIS, better or more advance controls/modes, plus nice camera grip.

Waiting for price to drop, maybe year end of new year. But was considering a look for a 64GB unit since there is lack of micro-SD slot.

Seems to be a Nokia thing. And with OIS it may use even slower shutter speed to utilize the OIS.

For many users who use auto mode (just take out the phone and snap), they may get blur pictures easily with a Nokia. Hence, one of the main reason why many users said Apple or Samseng camera is "easier" or "nicer" to use, or they may say take better pictures, mainly the "success rate" for usable shots is higher.

I guess the key is to be patient and wait. There's no rush/need to get it 1st; Won't win the person any prize.

At such RRP, it's very likely to have price drop or even different price offer later/soon. Also, as always, buying from Nokia Store will be in RRP, but other store, which also selling authorised MY set, can opt NOT to follow RRP.

Did you check NOTE3 Ebay special deals price? It's below RM2K.

Actually they can price it much lower. As I said previously, there maybe a team which do price survey and they may also check how much people are willing to pay... so if they see many people mentioned they willing to pay higher, so it may affect their final decision on what to price the product........

Just share some insights here.

Moreover, just imagine how many people who actually initially wanted to get the Lumia 1020, but after saw the price, they bought the Note 3 which just released.... Nokia just lost some of their customers again, how they want people to switch to Nokia or Microsoft who wants their Customer to switch to Windows Phone. Once the customer change new phone, how long for them to change again, and if they gets comfortable with the platform, it's another obstacle for MS to draw these customers.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 25 2013, 06:20 PM

I can just say, regardless where and who, it can be done, and very strongly believe that the price can be actually much lower.

Besides, check 808 PureView thread before it's launch, if not wrong, people also worry it might go over RM2K.

Pricing wise, as my experience and sources, it's very much "adjustable", whether it's country/region or decide by HQ in other countries.


It's not misleading, and it's didn't happen just for Lumia 1020.... many other brands and phones have the same problem. Even the recent Note 3, Ebay special deals at RM1899, that's much more difference compared it's RRP.

Long ago, I bought the N81 at Nokia Store when it's just launch. After I purchased, I went down and saw a shop selling the phone RM100++ cheaper! I ask and found it's the same authorised unit by Zitron.
They're not Nokia Store, so they don't have to follow RRP strictly.

I've been telling few times, no need to rush; unless you really need to change your phone like, immediately.

If you already bought it, then don't look back and ENJOY your phone.
Some people buy things, then next day suddenly price drop or got special offer/free gift, it's also very heart-breaking; the point is, you already make the decision to buy at the price, don't look back and enjoy your purchase.




This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 27 2013, 11:11 AM

Ok, noted your above.

Just can say, try to cheer up and enjoy the Lumia 1020. Hopefully Storekini and Nokia Malaysia can offer you all something to make up for it.

Anyway, don't stress yourself too much over it and enjoy the device.

Comparing with normal smartphone camera, this one has bigger sensor means there is more shallow depth of field. If you shoot "close-up", it's more likely to get "out-of-focus" problem if you moved your phone, especially IF you tried to do focus and re-compose.

As for the noise, if you're checking 38MP photo, yes, surely you will see more noise than usual, plus the processing on the Lumia 1020 applied more sharpening than 808 PureView.

Finally, regarding had to capture, did you try touch focus? And is the subject small? What I experience with the past Lumia camera is, it tends to "back focus" if the subject is not big "enough". I briefly tested the Lumia 1020 with Pro Cam, from the short test, I notice the SAME problem...... Looking at small screen, normal people may not notice it's "back-focus" unless they zoom in and check the details. With bigger sensor, the effect will be more serious.

How fast can you launch the camera app? Can you leave the camera app when you lock the phone, and when you unlock the phone you're back at the camera app ready to capture photo immediately?

One of the good feature of the 808 is the ability to launch camera very quickly by pressing the dedicated camera button, and if the camera app is not closed when the phone it locked, once you unlock the phone, the camera app is ready immediately.

Ok thanks bro~ Will try to test it at Nokia Store when have chance

Oh yea, I remember this feature on the L800 last time; used to show off this feature to my friend last time, haha.

The more important is the set the Default Camera App as Default. Thanks for this info~

Are you able to send the 34MP photos via Bluetooth?

You don't want to do that...
If you send in, they may open your device, etc. Unless you don't mind that.

That's with camera grip, so the phone itself is below RM2K already.

The lowest price now is around RM2188/2199 from SatuGadgetDotCom or DirectD
It comes with Camera Grip + some misc free gifts.

Deducting the Camera Grip, the phone cost less than RM2K. Seems OK.

But I think I'll wait a little longer more, the price most likely will go down further since now it's just launch like 1 week+ ago? And currently, there's also Note 3 and Z1 which may impact the price of Lumia 1020 later.

Just not sure whether later IF the price drops below RM2K, will it still have Camera Grip free? If No, then not much different than now?

Also not sure will there be AP version for 64GB units. Authorised set most likely will not have 64GB units.

DirectD and SatuGadgetDotCom does offer, but will charge around 5~6%.

If you buy from Nokia Store, they have 0% installment with no additional charges.

Those are outdoor daylight shots, plus you need to view in full resolution to see more clearly.
But it's great to have the ability to control shutter speed, which is what I always wanted in 808PV.

As hox mentioned, another great improvements is the "focusing speed", and I think focusing as well from my short test. 808PV sometimes or quite often, unable to lock focus, gives you red box. When I tested the L1020, seems like OK, but need current 808PV and L1020 users to confirm.