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 Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - Official v3, 3rd gen of the best phablet

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post Sep 21 2013, 09:25 PM

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Apple wants to be unique. First to use the Micro SIM, then the first to use Nano SIM for the iPhone 5 onwards. Only last year Samsung started to implement Micro SIM for their phones. tongue.gif
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post Sep 21 2013, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(snigapoe @ Sep 21 2013, 09:28 PM)
better to said is where they wanted to be first so that after their user use the nano sim, they will have difficulty if they wanted to port out of apple?
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Change SIM from your Service Provider. Possible brows.gif

QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 21 2013, 09:28 PM)
*there fixed that for you*
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I second that
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post Sep 21 2013, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(vinnilaa @ Sep 21 2013, 10:11 PM)
Guys, just wondering... why spigen screen protector is so expensive... I saw RM69... usual SP is not tht expensive
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Spigen's SP are one of the best. Actually inside the wrap, there are 2 SPs inside. I bought the Oleo one in Feb this year, still using it to date. No scratches at all. The quality is really top notch. Invest in a good one, at least you'll have a peace of mind later on.
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post Sep 21 2013, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Cynox @ Sep 21 2013, 10:43 PM)
so funny to look at those itchy hearts to get the Note 3 eagerly so badly.  laugh.gif  Please be patient lah..... it is just an android phone.  doh.gif  It won't increase in price for the next few days when it is released on Sept 25.  whistling.gif  We already know most of its functions more or less at the moment, no surprise after getting one.

Can understand the urge to get the Gear but Note 3 is just a incremental update to Note 2.  blush.gif
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Not only Note 3 la, every flagship phones is the same. Many wants to be the early adopters hence paying extra for it. Crazy money really. Smart consumers will know how to differentiate between a need and a want. brows.gif
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 21 2013, 10:54 PM)
No joy getting it too late.

That is user preferable, had nothing to do with smart or not. Every first hand user know price sure drop later. Getting it first hand or not is user happiness.

Phone never is a need thing.
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Not everyone has that 'kiasu' attitude. It does matter if you get the phone early or late. As you've said, personal preference. For a normal person, what is the need to fork out extra money just to be an early adopter? To show off? Self satisfaction? You've overpaid for the phone, what is so satisfying about that?

So if a person's phone is broken or spoilt, he/she needs a replacement phone, does that mean he or she doesn't need a phone? I like how you put yourself in another person's view and putting it based on your own judgements.

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post Sep 21 2013, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 21 2013, 11:09 PM)
Because you said smart consumer will buy later.

Is that means earlier user is stupid?

When or how much to paid, is user right, user willing paid extra or not is user right as well.

If a person really concerned on price, they is not need buy first hand or new product but that not means first hand customer is not smart.
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I am pretty sure that you cannot catch the phrase 'smart'. I never said it was wrong to be an early adopter, just stating the facts that one is desperate enough to overpay for the phone just to be an early adopter. Well, if you felt it, then that is your problem because I was merely agreeing with the person I've replied earlier.

There is no such thing as first customer or second customer. I believe what you are referring to is early adopters. Does it even matter if you are the first to get it? Sooner or later people will start owning it too. Secondhand value? The value of the phone depreciates as soon as you pick it up from the store, just like owning a car. Simple as ABC. Doesn't mean that you've purchased the phone on the first day of launch will guarantee that the value of the phone will sustain at it's peak value.
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 21 2013, 11:39 PM)
Already said buy earlier or not is user right and happiness. It does not matter, no one care you get it earlier or later, but your equation earlier adopter is not smart is a matter.

No one talk on it second hand value. Second hand value is base on product famous and required.
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You jumped at my statement of 'smart consumers'. For instance:

QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 21 2013, 11:20 PM)
Yalo, that is user right and happiness.

Nobody care you buy now or later, nothing to show off also, phone is a common product now.

But he said earlier buyer not smart is a bit too much.
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Which part of my statement stated that early adopters are not smart? Or should I put in your way, stupid?

I'm not trying to belittle you but please improve on your understanding and reading skills. The word 'smart consumers' is a general term used by consumers who understands the value of the market and not paying stupid money just to be an early adopter. There is no wrong of being an early adopter, just the fact that paying overboard is not very 'wise' of a person since the phone will be release in a few weeks.

Again, I do not tolerate people who jump or make their own conclusions.
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 21 2013, 11:43 PM)
Hi lance, may I ask where is your current location? Are you back in MY for good ? Just curious.

Mr. Mudkip has some serious comprehension issues, so please ignore his indiscretions.
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Isn't he famous for it since the S4 thread and occasionally Note 2 thread? shakehead.gif
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 21 2013, 11:47 PM)
It is same meaning, you no need to twist it.
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Up to you then. If you feel offended by it, go suck it up. You are a judge of your own visions and perceptions. Ain't got time to argue with people like you.
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Sep 22 2013, 12:04 AM)
lol bro chill la. For me, it's up to the person la whether he wants to get it fast, before launching date or even a week before. It's really up to them. They can't wait, or maybe they don't like to wait, or maybe they are too eager to get it. Various reasons that we dont know so just spare your judgement somewhere else. One's happiness is different from what you think it should be. And AFAIK, nobody pays more than RRP even though they got their units way earlier.
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I never judged. I was referring to those who've overpaid for the phone not those early adopters who paid RRP for it. Overpaying for a phone is what I am commenting on. And yes he took my statement wrongly because he misunderstood my statement. There is no right or wrong for one to do with their money, economically it is wrong but again, who are we to judge?
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Sep 22 2013, 12:17 AM)
yes to that bro. Overpaying a phone is foolish too in my view. But then again, it's up to them coz it's their money, just look at this case with a different view, perhaps by getting something way earlier makes somebody feels out of this world, maybe thats their way of being happy, I dont know. They have the luxury of paying premium to get something early, so let them be.

I wanna get Note 3 as early as I can also but Im not foolish enough to pay more than it's supposed to be. And with Note 3, it's possible so why not right?
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Well said. Planning to sign with a telco or just the phone individually?

QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 22 2013, 12:27 AM)
I never misunderstood your statement.

Even people paid more is people right and like. It not affecting you, means you no need to bother as well.
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Look back at your previous statement(s) and I would like to beg to differ? If you put it that way, I can say the same thing as well, vice versa. And for the record, your English is really hard to read. I'm having trouble trying to reiterate your statements.
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Sep 22 2013, 12:36 AM)
Right. That Andrew guy think he is one smarter chap who knows how to spend money better.
He forgot that are many who don't mind paying extra knowing very well the additional amount BUT such consumers are not dumb n you cannot say they are not smart consumers
To such consumers extra 300-500 ringgit could just be a drop in the ocean only. They don't even want to think about such extra money. For me paying rm2k is just pocket change
If I like something earlier I don't mind paying a few hundred more. N I proudly still say I am a smart consumer
I agree he is definitely wrong to say only smart consumers will not overpay
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No offense Uncle Benny.

I have already stated that I have no issues with people being an early adopter nor overpaying for the phone. The fact of paying 'extra' for a phone that has been jacked up for an inflationary price to cater those who are willing to fork out extra is not economically correct. It is not wrong, but in terms of overpaying for something to get it first hand is not what usual consumers do. Despite the fact that more well off consumers may disagree, it cannot be deemed as a common thing. Honestly, how many would fork out extra hundreds just to get their hands on it first? No many.

To understand the fact that some are unwilling to wait for a little while longer just to get the hands for the RRP doesn't make sense. There is no right or wrong in this argument. I am stating based on my opinions even though I have never stated that paying extra is 'stupid' as that one claimed. That is pure slender.

It is not about how much you have or how willing are you to spend on something. Most people will wait for the phone to officially launch locally and purchase the phone. Again, only a small fraction of the customer segments will pay extra just to get their hands on the phone earlier than others. As I've stated, there is no wrong or right answers. These argument is purely based on opinions and one should not overact over such issue.

Again, as much as I respect you for your contributions to this forum, I have no intention on getting off the wrong foot with you. Cheers.

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