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frega
post Dec 17 2013, 11:11 AM

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@activexxx wtf, it's a disease... what you experienced isn't the same as what others do. stop recommending "herbs".

@Brielle123
It's a good thing you decide to get help. Ignore your mom telling ppl you're crazy (mine did the same thing). But at this point, 0 f***s to be given.

If purely biological, take meds. If not, light dose of meds + counselling.

Ask your doc to switch if you're unhappy with your current ones. Try different ones. They don't always work, usually try a few months then see effect.

You can try Wellbutrin (some experience weight loss side effect). I've tried Lexapro and Prozac, both didn't do much.

What helped me a lot is STRUCTURE. You need to force yourself into a routine. Do little by little. Depression never really goes away, or it hasn't for me anyway. If I get an episode, I'll be crippled for a few days.
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post Jan 9 2014, 10:20 AM

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Compelling research evidence exists that there is often a neurophysiological basis for depression, particularly in people with a family history of depression.

The left frontal area of the brain is associated with positive emotions and approach motivation, which is a desire to be involved with other people. The right frontal area of the brain is more associated with depression and fear, accompanied by motivation to withdraw from and avoid other people. When there is more slow brainwave activity in the left frontal area, this part of the brain is more inactive and the right frontal area is more dominant. Such a person is predisposed to become depressed more easily, to withdraw from other people, and to be anxious.

It is interesting that research has found that antidepressants do not correct the type of brainwave pattern that we see above on the left. Thus, medication treatment for depression appears to still leave intact the biological predisposition for becoming more easily depressed when unpleasant life circumstances come along.

I am working in a proactive healthcare centre (non-drug approach) at Setapak as a psychologist. I am supervised by a medical doctor and a PHD level psychologist who specializing in biofeedback for more than 20 years. I am using clinical hypnotherapy and biofeedback methods to help my clients.
Our unique approach for depression appear very promising not only in bringing relief from depression, but in modifying the underlying biological predisposition for becoming depressed. Our unique therapy program focuses on retraining the brain, for example, reversing the frontal brainwave asymmetry, with the goal of producing an enduring change that does not require people to remain on medication indefinitely. Training often requires about 20 to 22 sessions.

This post has been edited by zeropoint9: Jan 9 2014, 10:34 AM
TSBrielle123
post Jan 18 2014, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(frega @ Dec 17 2013, 11:11 AM)
@activexxx wtf, it's a disease... what you experienced isn't the same as what others do. stop recommending "herbs".

@Brielle123
It's a good thing you decide to get help. Ignore your mom telling ppl you're crazy (mine did the same thing). But at this point, 0 f***s to be given.

If purely biological, take meds. If not, light dose of meds + counselling.

Ask your doc to switch if you're unhappy with your current ones. Try different ones. They don't always work, usually try a few months then see effect.

You can try Wellbutrin (some experience weight loss side effect).  I've tried Lexapro and Prozac, both didn't do much.

What helped me a lot is STRUCTURE. You need to force yourself into a routine. Do little by little. Depression never really goes away, or it hasn't for me anyway. If I get an episode, I'll be crippled for a few days.
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Thanks! I'll ask my doctor to change my meds. I'm glad I postponed it to next thursday!
As for now I tried to skip my medicine to see if I can live without it but I get the worst insomnia ever. lol.
and yea I had a lot of ppl recommending herbs for depression. kind of annoying tho.. sweat.gif
yeezai
post Jan 19 2014, 04:54 AM

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the first thing in taking anti depressant is the withdrawal from it...you will have suicidal tendency ...mood swings ... better talk it out with your friends , go somewhere else for a while , meditate ...pills wont help you ..trust me ..it only stop the problem temporarily ..
TSBrielle123
post Feb 3 2014, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Jan 19 2014, 04:54 AM)
the first thing in taking anti depressant is the withdrawal from it...you will have suicidal tendency ...mood swings ... better talk it out with your friends , go somewhere else for a while , meditate ...pills wont help you ..trust me ..it only stop the problem temporarily ..
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thank you for your kind words.
Yes, my doctor told me I'm only taking it temporary. Not for long run. I'll stop it once she thinks I'm fine and stable.
I do have all the problems that you pointed out. But I've got no choice. I've got too much burden. And I do talk it out with my bff, it felt good but it doesn't solve my 'problems'. I do go out alone sometimes to read some novels, spend some time for myself. It is nice, but once I went home, everything goes back to original. I'm moody again. Locking myself in room.

The root of my depression isn't solved. It never will.
SUSTham
post Feb 3 2014, 09:23 PM

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The mind-body connection is prevalent in many diseases.

The use of biofeedback and hypnosis in depression are viable and powerful
forms of nondrug therapies, and may well help to wean you off your dependence
on antidepressants and their side effects. I think you should contact Zeropoint9 above
for more information about his treatment centre.




Cognitive hypnotherapy for major depressive disorder.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22655331



Suggestion in the treatment of depression.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23488249/




The power of belief and expectancy in understanding and management of depression.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23488252/




Out-of-illness experience: hypnotically induced dissociation as a therapeutic
resource in treating people with obstinate mental disorders.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19711767





Feasibility of clinical hypnosis for the treatment of Parkinson's disease: a case study.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23427841




Efficacy of hypnosis-based treatment in amyotrophic lateral sclerosis: a pilot study.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23162510/




Antidepressants in the treatment of depression: the clinician and the controversy.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23488250




Treating depression with antidepressants:
drug-placebo efficacy debates limit broader considerations.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23488253





Game-based biofeedback for paediatric anxiety and depression.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2294290




Is alpha wave neurofeedback effective with randomized
clinical trials in depression? A pilot study.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21063132



A new neurofeedback protocol for depression.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21568194




Audio-biofeedback training for posture and balance in
patients with Parkinson's disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21693054/?




Biofeedback therapy for symptoms of bowel dysfunction
following surgery for colorectal cancer.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21755415/



Bowel biofeedback treatment in patients with
multiple sclerosis and bowel symptoms.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21825891/




Biofeedback in the treatment of heart disease.

'' Preliminary data suggest that use of BFSM (biofeedback-assisted stress
management) by heart failure patients may actually cause cellular and
molecular remodeling of the failing heart in the direction of normal
. ''

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21972325






This post has been edited by Tham: Feb 5 2014, 04:49 AM
zeropoint9
post Jan 1 2015, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Feb 3 2014, 09:23 PM)
The mind-body connection is prevalent in many diseases.

The use of biofeedback and hypnosis in depression are viable and powerful
forms of nondrug therapies, and may well help to wean you off your dependence
on antidepressants and their side effects. I think you should contact Zeropoint9 above
for more information about his treatment centre.
Cognitive hypnotherapy for major depressive disorder.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22655331
Suggestion in the treatment of depression.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23488249/
The power of belief and expectancy in understanding and management of depression.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23488252/
Out-of-illness experience: hypnotically induced dissociation as a therapeutic
resource in treating people with obstinate mental disorders.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19711767
Feasibility of clinical hypnosis for the treatment of Parkinson's disease: a case study.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23427841
Efficacy of hypnosis-based treatment in amyotrophic lateral sclerosis: a pilot study.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23162510/
Antidepressants in the treatment of depression: the clinician and the controversy.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23488250
Treating depression with antidepressants:
drug-placebo efficacy debates limit broader considerations.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23488253
Game-based biofeedback for paediatric anxiety and depression.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2294290
Is alpha wave neurofeedback effective with randomized
clinical trials in depression? A pilot study.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21063132
A new neurofeedback protocol for depression.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21568194
Audio-biofeedback training for posture and balance in
patients with Parkinson's disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21693054/?
Biofeedback therapy for symptoms of bowel dysfunction
following surgery for colorectal cancer.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21755415/
Bowel biofeedback treatment in patients with
multiple sclerosis and bowel symptoms.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21825891/
Biofeedback in the treatment of heart disease.

'' Preliminary data suggest that use of BFSM (biofeedback-assisted stress
management) by heart failure patients may actually cause cellular and
molecular remodeling of the failing heart in the direction of normal
. ''

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21972325
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Thanks Tham for all these useful information.
Hypnosis and CBT together are known to be far more effective than CBT alone.
Hypnotherapy naturally causes reduction in the need to take Antidepressant, it can help you reach your goal of coming off antidepressants. I have helped many clients to reduce their drug dosage (But make sure you get an advice from your psychiatrist about reducing drugs if you are taking any anti depressant or sleeping pill now)

Success Casehttp://www.newmindcentre.com/search/label/Testimonials
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post Jan 2 2015, 08:01 AM

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EFT tapping therapy will help too. If need any help for EFT, you can PM me. My friend is licensed therapist.

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