U.S. to Harvard University: Don't publish report on which races have the highest and lowest IQ

Pressure continues to pile up against Harvard University after the publication of its research on racial IQ, something that led to the resignation of Professor Jason Richwine from the Heritage Foundation. The university was condemned for approving and publishing the thesis, with some calling it "racist". The uproar has also sparked a debate about academic freedom as well as academic integrity, with proponents arguing that everything could be studied, while opponents saying some subjects should be left untouched.


US to Harvard University: It might be too sensitive to study racial intelligence

Supporters point to Stephen Hsu, a theoretical physicist who is currently searching for an intelligence gene to ultimately help China engineer 'genius babies'. "At BGI Shenzhen, scientists have collected DNA samples from 2,000 of the world's smartest people and are sequencing their entire genomes in an attempt to identify the alleles which determine human intelligence," said Geoffrey Miller, professor of evolutionary psychology at the University of New Mexico.

"Apparently they're not far from finding them, and when they do, embryo screening will allow parents to pick their brightest zygote and potentially bump up every generation's intelligence by five to 15 IQ points. And we're pretty far behind." Miller said in response to question about how the U.S. compares to China in cognitive genomics research.

"We have the same technical capabilities, the same statistical capabilities to analyze the data, but they (Chinese) are collecting the data on a much larger scale and seem to be capable of transforming the scientific findings into government policy and consumer genetic testing much more easily than we are. Technically and scientifically we could be doing this, but we're not... We have ideological biases that say, well, this could be troubling, we shouldn't be meddling with nature, we shouldn't be meddling with God, and more..."


China allocated billions into research in hopes to engineer generations of 'genius babies'

"I just attended a debate in New York a few weeks ago about whether or not we should outlaw genetic engineering in babies and the audience was pretty split. In China, 95 percent of the audience would say, 'Obviously you should make babies genetically healthier, happier, and brighter!' There's a big cultural difference," Miller added. China has allocated $1.5 billion, and promised more, for the research.

Twenty-three student organizations have sent a joint letter criticizing the research. "Let us be clear that we believe in academic freedom as it is crucial to the functioning of a university. However, we also believe that putting forth claims of racial superiority based on inherent genetic advantage to be on par with those who have used pseudo-science throughout history to justify state-based hate," the letter reads.

At the center of controversy is that Professor Jason Richwine, author of the research, added in his political opinion, by saying America shouldn't let low IQ immigrants into the country. On the finding that Hispanics have lower IQ than the Whites, he said, "low IQ is likely an underlying cause of the Hispanic underclass, and that new Hispanic immigrants will probably have low-IQ children and grandchildren."


US: Racial IQ studies might be used to justify racism against Blacks and Hispanics

He also argues for of an immigration policy that would favor "high-IQ immigrants" as a way to help them and America. "No one knows whether Hispanics will ever reach IQ parity with whites," he added. Hispanics is one of the largest waves of immigrants into America every year, but group is constantly plagued by violence, crimes and gangsterism, and is at the bottom of the country's socio-economic ladder alongside the Blacks.

The debates on racial intelligence is always a heated one, because Blacks score the lowest point in all indicators, and the studies could be used as a case of racism against them. On the other hand, the Jews (especially Ashkenazi Jews) were revealed to have the highest average IQ among all races in the world, something that could attract every kinds of conspiracy theories towards them.

Harvard, one of the world's most prestigious university, has long conducted research on racial intelligence. Professor Arthur Jensen was one of the first researchers to propose in 1969 that the IQ gap between blacks and whites is best explained partly by genetic factors. Richard Lynn in 1991 attracted controversies by saying that his findings showed East Asians were more intelligent than both the Whites and the Blacks. He later published the famous book 'IQ and the Wealth of Nations', a publication that claimed a nation's success is dependent on its citizen's IQ.


The Jewish people are found to have the highest IQ, and Albert Einstein was among one of them

In 1994, Harvard researchers Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray caused uproar in their argument termed 'The Bell Curve', which says that programs to boost black academic performance might be futile because blacks are innately less intelligent than whites; and in 2007 Nobel laureate and former Harvard professor James Watson ascribed Africa's social problems to African's genetic inferiority. He said that is why no Black-majority nation succeed.

Research on racial IQ basically found similar pattern worldwide; Jews have the highest average IQ at 110-118, and the best among them is found in the Ashkenazi Jewish group. This is followed by the East Asians (Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese and Koreans) at 100-106, with varying results. Overseas Chinese are found to be smarter than the Japanese and Koreans, who in turn are brighter than Mainland Chinese. Vietnamese (geographically Southeast Asians but culturally East Asians) have the lowest IQ among East Asians at 95-96.

Caucausians (White) came third at an average IQ of 99-100. Despite that, there are wide disparities. The finest group of Whites; Scandinavians, British, German, Italian and Dutch, have an IQ of 105-106. Others like Greeks, Spanish, Portuguese appear to have lower IQ point, while Russian average IQ comes at 96-98.


The world's average IQ by countries

Hispanics (Latinos) and Southeast Asians (Thais, Khmers, Filipinos, Malays) are pretty much on par with each other, with both fetching an average IQ between 86-93. In Latin America, Chile, Uruguay and Argentina, the 3 White-majority nations, exhibited the highest IQ in the region. In Southeast Asia (excluding Vietnam), Malaysia and Thailand, whose demographics comprised of a significant East Asian population, are found to have the highest IQ in the region.

Average IQ for Indians range between 81-86, but for overseas Indians it could top 92. Across the Middle East, the Arab people have a mean IQ of 81-84. After Israel, Turkey was found to have the second highest IQ in the region at about 90. Blacks, meanwhile, rank at the most bottom of the world's IQ scores, though results may vary depending on residence. Blacks in Africa have an average IQ of 60-70, while their Carribean counterpart 70-72. IQ of Blacks living in the West could top 82-86. Primitive Bushmen in Southwest Africa, on the other hand, have an IQ of 54.


IQ of Black people remain painfully low compared to the world, subjecting them to regular racist stereotypes


Source:

credit to mevotex@miricommunity.net

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hmm.. Msia would never publish anything like that.. everyone know why.

maths genius

Lol white supremancy

Hispanics (Latinos) and Southeast Asians (Thais, Khmers, Filipinos, Malays) are pretty much on par with each other, with both fetching an average IQ between 86-93

But I judge face oredi can know I toking to homo erectus, semi human or full blown monkey in human shell.

No nid look at IQ. Nowadays can cheat IQ test using handfon.

i has the proud to be oversea chinese

wow.. china punya kolor sangat gelap oh...

dont publish la...u know i know sudah la

Malaysia is included in the study . Intriguing .

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This post has been edited by stokeng: Oct 17 2013, 11:11 AM

Point of the article

Chinese is undeniable a master race in Malaysia

at least on average we were same level as Holland, thanks to malaysian cinis contribution

Black people got the strength. You better not mess with them. 1 hit you terus K.O

ya agree, master race in Malaysia dont need to work also can survive, i heard that they eat iron for lunch and dinner, invincible from desease and most important thing is they are not greedy...perfect race !

truth hurts

with big Pen Island & big Hooters & big Nen Nen who needs high IQ?

Remember God is fair to everyone.

Seems to me the intra-race variance is greater than the inter-race variance. Which would tend to support the theory that other factors than race have a greater impact on intelligence.

Even the measurement of intelligence is open to debate. Is the standard IQ test (Stanford-Binet?) a measure of intelligence, ability to take tests or something else?

the bigger your p*nis, the lower your IQ.

not sure if trolling or just stupid

In Malaysia, Umnoputra is the master of all races.

This post has been edited by uvo: Sep 18 2013, 03:06 PM

actually if you drink those powerful baby formula when you were a child you will become a genius. that's why you can see those parents stealing baby formula from stores so that their baby will be smart and those parents will end up in jail.

Given the degree of his answer, I would lean more towards the latter.

This post has been edited by uvo: Sep 18 2013, 03:03 PM

Reminds me of reading about that Siddis guy who have over 250 IQ but spent the rest of his life doing stuff far below his capabilities.

But ah, genius is a fragile thing too.

If you cannot fight it, you avoid it.

Now tell me how many of us in this forum can best Usain bolt...

how do they measure intelligence anyway? like those in africa, which score the lowest. is it due to education level? that would be unfair, as uneducated is not the same as not intelligence. u can have a highly educated person but the IQ might be lower.

Which makes the Chinese, Indians, Koreans the smartest?

dupe

This post has been edited by stokeng: Oct 17 2013, 11:03 AM

It depend on your environment.

If u born in amazon jungle, orang asli society. U become like them.

And malay keep sending melayu go to arab, and bawa balik stupid knowldge from arab, and soon on will have civil war too like syrian, egypth and soon on.

But VIETNAM have high IQ? I go vietnam, their negara not really maju.

Rasuah everywhere.

If u ask them about islam, christian, they probably wonder wth is that??

Not necessarily.
There have been quite a lot of hoo hahs on how the IQ tests were conducted. Some people might do better in some questions.
Even simple problem solving problems require you to understand what the problems wants from you as an answer, which in turns goes back to understanding of the question itself.

Though I do think myself jews should be the smartest one around.

and they are not racist

Where to take this IQ test? I also not in 1..

try becoming a Mensa member

Why need IQ when we have religion as first priority?

Mensa = high IQ only...?


I don't think its right lo...selected ppl get tested.

If every1 compulsory take IQ test at least once in their lifetime then only more accurate lo.

If this 1 is compare our highest(s) average against others like that developing country sure lose la. biased shit ftw.

They think wat 200 IQ can get opportunity to do anything ka..follow custom/religion/etc etc cant do anything if no opportunity is given

This post has been edited by ShinnKQ: Sep 18 2013, 03:33 PM

You've no idea how sample distribution mean works right?

Plus they're doing studies on the highest IQ, not best opportunity available or something.

iq is overrated, eq more important

To quote House MD

"Three cavemen see a stranger running towards them with a spear. One fights, one flees, one smiles and invites him over for fondue. That last guy didn't last long enough to procreate."

tankerbell12345

lol at iq measurement. last time i did iq test for mnc interview i scored 138. but what the hell, it is just a no for which the test designed by human, what reflects and constitutes u as a person is more than iq. i dont believe the measurement at all. there are more ppl better than me with relatively lower score.

berak tepi jalan iq tinggi?

And how would you know/be sure that this particular person in this country/state is the highest IQ?

How do you know XYZ would not have a higher IQ just because he/she was not involved in the sampling. (

So NOPE.

I'm not talking about best opportunity availability, I'm questioning their method used in developing/poorer countries. How did they get the numbers ?

Overseas Chinese are found to be smarter than the Japanese and Koreans, who in turn are brighter than Mainland Chinese.

^ This is 1 of the, main concerns.

Oh this country is not progressing that much, let's considerthem lowIQ, using their progress as a backbone.

Congratulations Africans are low IQ.

> Shanghai, Beijing surpassed entire Malaysia in GDP, new asian tigers not country but cities

This thread can use to vroom?

I think from this we know that this is a bullshit research....

They forgot EQ, SQ, and GQ.

Kalau nak idiot savant there's more from where that came from.

This post has been edited by ChaosXP: Sep 18 2013, 04:13 PM

in a way...yes. he had dropped his load for others to clean up, and this is also what environmental polluters do, same mentality as people who think they deserve to songlap, etc... meanwhile you are wearing yours in your pants or in pain looking for a toilet...having high iq doesn't necessary mean you will be moral, lawful or whatever about your actions..then again having high religion doesn't guarantee that either...

Nikka not smart? yet they managed to pull so many cons. Hahahahahaha!! oh the irony

this was before religion

slow..already knew jew is the 1st

Again, you've no idea how the sampling works. Does have it's drawback, but should be able to give a good mean, discounting outliers.

On "Overseas Chinese are found to be smarter than the Japanese and Koreans, who in turn are brighter than Mainland Chinese.", my personal belief on how it happened was from the differing education. Chinese have this thing for providing the best possible education for their children whenever it permits. Japan and Koreans have better education system, way ahead of what the mainland'er prior to the last decade or so, lagging, but fast catching up.

Don't understand the backbone part of your statement though.

vtech not kick in yet..

Too many people forgot Indonesia

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2871694

world balance. The lower the IQ, the more tongkat given

OLOOL Keyword

DOLPHINS HAVE HIGHER IQ THAN HUMAN BEINGS

... and in Malaysia the Prime Minister just had to ask "apalagicinamau"

Troll spotted

Laughing my arse out

all the average iq listed there are rather low....

conclusion, most people have low iq.

interesting.. eventho i already know but this at least double confirm my thought. thats why we need quota.

i support the non-publication on racial lines.

the only thing that matters is an individual's iq score. if your cousin is a genius, doesnt mean that you are a genius too. then again, if you have a high iq score already, you dont need to show off your cousin's score instead of your own.

true.

look at the country situation you basically know their iq already.

Yes.


We have eyes to see and brain to judge.

Who needs some random survey to tell us.

its true, although it is liable to an issue of perspective.

like if i am in the top 2% of the world's pop with the highest iq (because mensa doesnt break it down further), pretty much everyone from every race looks pretty stupid to me.

trying to pick out 'the most intelligent race' becomes futile when you realise that regardless of what race, there's going to be a very very very large amount of sub-par thinkers within that race itself - and a whole whole lot of people who are subpar to my own ability to think.

eskimos can be the smartest race in the world, but if even 90% of their race is still below my own iq score, its stretches credibility if an eskimo comes up to me and wants me to acknowledge their 'superiority' lol.

so yeah, its pretty much pointless.

there are many flaws in IQ test actually. and IQ alone should not be used to define a person's intelligence



This post has been edited by slimey: Sep 18 2013, 06:45 PM

the higher the IQ the more ridiculous in car parking

that why mensa existed ...

I don't believe that malaysian are smarter than african, because malaysian are easily cheater by the african scam !!!

lin dan was genetically engineered by government

to be fair, mensa's kinda boring. it's just the occasional get-together and bowling etc.

yes, because even mensa says, high IQ is everywhere, from fireman to housewife to taxi driver.

a stupid crony > a very smart fireman anytime

life has too many variables, IQ alone is not going to cut it

though iq test has its flaws, there is a need to explain why ashkenazi jews are over-represented in the world's top achievers. surely it is not a coincident. similarly, there is also a need to explain why most black nations are well... like that. south africa was developed by the whites before it is handed to the blacks.

also the curiosity to why east asia alone made up over three-quarter of all asian economies. not to mention why certain governments see the needs of tongkats for certain ethnic lines.

This post has been edited by rivost: Sep 18 2013, 07:06 PM

all IQ lose to siham / amoi.

somehow related

Racial Quotas In Malaysia: Grim Warning For America
http://www.vdare.com/articles/racial-quota...ing-for-america

This post has been edited by Meis: Sep 18 2013, 07:49 PM

That one apply to women of all races.

+100 truth really hurts

Thank you Jared Taylor

stinger82 mana lu punya siggy

Vroom on the horizon

vroomvroom

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The trouble with preferences is that they don't raise a group's average IQ, and temporary programs become permanent.
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dun be surprised in the future malaysian cainis will be forced to lower their IQ in order for a so called "level playing field"

too high also dangerous lo, look at this malay couple

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2963927

Tomorrow's Utush!t headline:

Perk0sa mendesak Jib Jib memberi tongkat minda

At least they got 15inch... vs east asians 2inch

wa, so long didn't see you. You're still doing your housemanship?

bangga dengan bangsa sendiri, tapi kalau IQ 20 pon tak guna

and tak perlu butthurt dengan research finding kalau sendiri punya IQ above the stated average.

This post has been edited by dagnarus: Sep 18 2013, 08:41 PM

time very limited now. lowyating on hp.

lol, might as well use this precious moment to get some shut eye instead.

think this lend some credibility to it?

my IQ is 140, so which country do I fit?