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 ASUS T100 Win 8.1 Baytrail 10.1" Tablet - Oct 18, RM1299 with Office 2013/keyboard

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jaycee1
post Dec 10 2013, 11:14 PM

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Got mine yesterday afternoon at USJ19. They had 2 units when I got there. 1 left tongue.gif

It's great value given it's a full fledged x86 computer in a tablet form.


Build quality is a bit cheap, and the screen is disappointingly dim, but you can't ask for too much for the price. Bought this for work, so the included MS Office is a hugh advantage, runs all my normal x86 programs and it's decently powerful as long as you don't overuse the 2gb memory.

Pros
X86 with full windows 8.1
Runs standard programs. Teamviewer, VNC, photoscape for light image editing.
MS Office 2013
Can network print and receive scans from my MFP.
500gb HDD
Powerful and decent battery (first charged lasted me 7 hrs of surfing and installing, copying files, 720p video
Wifi connect to my NAS for streaming


Cons
Only 32gb ssd
Build / finish cheap feel and look
Full size USB3 on keyboard
Keyboard worst than on Asus netbooks
Touchpad keys horrible
MicroSD easy to accidentally eject
No free sleeve.
No MS Outlook
Can't log into domain. ( have to split files into my NAS). Have yet to test 3rd party VPN.

One thing I couldn't get working was my Logitech Unify adaptor. Not sure why yet.

Might get my own unit if they have the 64gb model with win8 64 and 4gb ram....and perhaps win8 pro. However that said, windows 8 is a disaster for touch.

I have an IPad and Samsung Note2, both iOS and Android work better on touch, although as a work machine, this has little peers for this price range.

This is my 2nd x86 convertible. My first was a 12" Dell latitude XT, which was a disaster , especially with the N-Trig digitizer.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Dec 10 2013, 11:22 PM
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post Dec 11 2013, 04:44 AM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Dec 11 2013, 12:06 AM)
yupe cause Ipad and Android lack the desktop feature. Slap the MAC Os desktop feature on iPad - IOS and see if you still think of it as highly. So you do not like the desktop feature don't use it. Also try to process a 500 words document using Google doc on your Note 2 or even a Samsung Galaxy and tell me you can do lot faster than on your T100!

also people should seriously stop with the bull crap that sometimes they are sent to the desktop when attempting to do stuffs via the Modern UI.

The PC desktop has been around for how many decades! I absolutely do not expect to have all the features built in to desktop pc during few decades of time - to be touch optimized and modern UIed in just two years.
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And your point being?

No one expects to type out any 500 word document on a touch device. Especially when you do it regularly. That's what a proper desktop or laptop is for. What? you think the T100 is the only tablet with a keyboard?

Stop being so defensive.

I am OS independent and evaluating the device and it's platform as it is.

MS has been toying about with touch since Windows Vista and 7.
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post Dec 11 2013, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(ajay67 @ Dec 11 2013, 06:54 AM)
Jaycee1, since u use for work, have u tried connecting it to vga projector?
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I hardly use a VGA output anymore, as the newer projectors use HDMI. I have enquired and there are mHDMI to VGA (DSub15) adaptors available, albeit not cheap, about 90-100 if you can find stock. mHDMI to HDMI adapters are much cheaper and easier to find.



QUOTE(Damonzero @ Dec 11 2013, 07:07 AM)
Thanks for the detailed review. Do u mind giving me the shops contact? Thanks!
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You're welcome.

The shop in USJ 19 Mall is Aoneplus. On the ground floor. Paid 1399 full retail, but got other things unrelated thrown in for free or discounted.



The T100's keyboard is marginal in terms of use. I'm still having problems with the right shift key. But given the price these things are retailing for you can't really complain. 1399 isn't much money nowadays. It is incidentally the same price as Asus' original 7" EeePC that I purchased when it launched.

As for available HDD space, I'm having 13.3GB remaining after installing most of my light duty software. Its sufficient for now but realistically, this is for mobile work so 32Gb + 32GB mSD may very well be enough, if this is not your only device. Considering my original EeePC had only 8GB, and we made do with that. As with my EeePC, You can tweak with Windows' recovery and download repository and save 1GB or so.


After using it a few days, to sum it up,

This is a Netbook that can be used as a tablet. It is priced like a netbook, feels like one in terms of build and finish quality, weighs like one and looks like one with the keyboard base attached.

Its great for a mobile professional that needs a more portable solution to a laptop. The Atom 3740 is finally powerful enough to do some more serious work.

If you buy this thinking it is a tablet first, I think you may be a bit disappointed, primarily because of the OS.


The reason I bought this is because it can run x86 natively. Nothing at this sort of price range can do it, and have MS Office bundled together. But would have very much preferred a 64gb model without the keyboard dock, since my Bluetooth keyboards are much better.

On a side note, while 10" is fine with Metro, its a bit small in desktop mode. Perhaps I can upgrade to a 13" model with the Atom 3770 in the near future smile.gif
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post Dec 12 2013, 09:53 AM

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Loaded some more heavy duty movies on last night... typical 720p but wont run from the SD Card without stuttering. I'm using a Kingston Class 4 which was working fine with my media players.


Same movie works fine if copied to my onboard SSD. Same movie works fine from a USB 3.0 Portable drive.

Not quite sure why.

oh now, it wont play any movies from the SD Card without stuttering... even those that were working fine previously. hmmmm. Thought can have an easy way to get some movies for the kids for road trips since my car's media player died.
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post Dec 13 2013, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Dec 13 2013, 11:56 AM)
also - the FULL HD video files stored on my class 4 (the slowest and cheapest SD Card) do not slow down - they play smoothly.

I am looking for super high bit rate Full HD files to test the class 4 SD Card.
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Go find something like Avatar 3D HD. I think the file is some 13Gb... u need to format the card to NTFS


I have been using Class 4 for a very long time.

but my problem now I believe is the T100 itself. Now it refuses to read ANY mSD card. This for a warranty call. Not sure if its a software bug or hardware failure.

The mSD cards are fine in my other devices.
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post Dec 23 2013, 05:54 PM

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Just an update.

my mSD started working normally again. Apparently Windows 8.1 fixed itself after several updates.

Has anyone tried getting Logitech's Unifing nano wireless receivers to work? damn annoying that I cannot use my normal mouse and keyboard. Not sure if its a Window 8.1 Problem because it doesn't even detect the receiver.
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post Dec 23 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(marauderz @ Dec 23 2013, 06:13 PM)
That's strange.. a Unifying nano wireless receiver should just be a normal keyboard/mouse combo device to windows without using the Unifying software.
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That's the thing. It should have been plug and play without the need for software.

Tried both the Unifying and normal Nano receivers on 2 different mice and 1 keyboard and 1 combo K400r keyboard/touch pad. none worked.

May have to resort to Bluetooth to get at least a mini keyboard with full sized keys and my old Bluetooth mice back into service.
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post Dec 30 2013, 03:29 PM

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My saga with the T100 playing nice with the Logitech peripherals are just getting weirder and weirder.

Bought a mUSB to USB adaptor, plugged in my Unifying receiver and it works fine. The USB Host port on the keyboard still refuses to recognize the receiver. Everything else seems to work perfectly on the Keyboard port.... USB drives, ex-HDD, card readers, etc.

However, while the mouse works fine, the refresh rate of the K270 keyboard is just dismal. Very slow. Will try with the K400r Keyboard/Touchpad later tonight.

Hope to get the Logitech thing sorted out. A few weeks on that cramped keyboard and very very poor touchpad has taken its toll.

On a side note, I will likely get my Thinkpad repaired. Using a 10" screen is optimistic at best since I don't have a spare HDMI monitor I can connect it to (mHDMI to HDMI cables are cheap). The mHDMI - Dsub15 adaptors are expensive and hard to find.
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post Feb 7 2014, 01:49 PM

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After a few months of using the T100 this is what I have to say.


Only Niggles. Full sized USB does not read logitech Nano unifing receiver (Fixed - bad connection on the receiver, somehow it don't fit correctly on my T100)


Bought this unit as a short term replacement for my Thinkpad when it went south. It was never for a long term use. With the thinkpad fixed its time to pass this along to my supervisor to use.

Good
Runs WINDOWS 8 and all x86 software natively (basic photo edit, VNC, Teamviewer for remote control!)
Portable
Decent battery life
Built in keyboard dock and HDD is useful but not really portable
Affordable
Supports FLASH
New Atom 3370 is pretty powerful
Office 2013
Minimal learning curve to use - works like every other windows machine


Bad
Keyboard is only useful for emergency use. Wont be as bad if the right shift key wasn't so small.
Windows 8 still needs work on touch devices.
Connected standby really sucks juice. Many times running out of juice when trying to use it.
Only 1 full sized USB - really does need one more full sized USB (even maybe a 2nd mUSB) on the tablet unit.
(I have a Logitech Nano receiver and need to unplug the charger or receiver if I need to plug any other USB in.
Touchpad (keys) is hopeless


Would be nice to have.
Windows 8 Pro for Domain authentication.
1 extra USB on tablet unit


As comparison to other Tablets currently in service.

Ipad
- looks better, is better built, more premium device
- is the better EBOOK and a web page viewer (lack of Flash is unfortunate but not a deal breaker)
- lack of external memory support and iTunes only sync is its failing.

Samsung Note 10
- Stylus support - and damn good one at that
- Android system more "open" compared to iOS

Both the Note 10 and Ipad make for far better tablets primarily of the OS behind it. But as a tablet "netbook" that can do some real work, the T100 has no peers at this price range. the 8" Bay Trail tablets are too small to be able to use exclusively as a work machine while this can still pass as a sole work machine for site personnel.



Conclusion.
Think of this as a Netbook that can be used as a tablet. Not the other way around. If you bought it for that reason and can live with that, you will be happy with the T100 for a long time. This beats any of the older Android based Transformers. That and it comes with Office - important for office and company use. I may even purchase a few more T100 for off site staff use as it is a very good productivity tool (or time waster depending on how you use it)

That said. would be buyers will have to evaluate if they want to spend the extra compared to a comparable Netbook or low end ultra portable notebook (with better keyboard) in which the T100 is more directly competing against.



I may consider an i5 powered 13" Transformer unit if it becomes more affordable as a direct replacement for my aging Thinkpad X61 ( I will miss the 4:3 screen for work). I was tempted for a brief moment of Asus' 18" Transformer desktop.... THAT would have been something but the price tag was a little unnerving.
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post Feb 7 2014, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(ywliang96 @ Jan 30 2014, 08:52 PM)

But I herd the screen isn't so high res    unsure.gif
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Don't buy into all that marketing hype for super high rez.

this is plenty enough for a 8-10" device.

A tablet isn't a phone. You don't look at it 1' from your face. If you do, you have more pressing issues than a low rez screen to be worried about.

 

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