Hi all,
For a newly-formed company intending to pay only Director Fees, is there a need to register with EPF, Socso and LHDN, and then remit any % of Director Fees to them?
Thanks.
New Co need to register with EPF, Socso and LHDN?, Sdn Bhd
New Co need to register with EPF, Socso and LHDN?, Sdn Bhd
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Sep 14 2013, 02:57 PM, updated 13y ago
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Hi all,
For a newly-formed company intending to pay only Director Fees, is there a need to register with EPF, Socso and LHDN, and then remit any % of Director Fees to them? Thanks. |
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Sep 14 2013, 03:06 PM
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Among the payments not liable for EPF contribution:
• Service charges • Overtime payment • Reward • Retirement benefits • Retrenchment, temporary and lay-off termination benefits • Any travelling allowance or the value of any travelling concession • Payment in lieu of notice of termination of employment • Director's fee The above list is not exhaustive. Should require further clarification, please contact our Call Management Centre at 03-89226000, enquiry or any EPF Office. http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/en/employers...-responsibility Categories of employees exempted from SOCSO's coverage:- • Government employees • Domestic servants • Self-employed persons • Foreign workers • Business owner and spouses of sole-proprietorship or partnership http://www.perkeso.gov.my/en/employer-a-employee.html LHDN...I think director can-lah |
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Sep 14 2013, 03:10 PM
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Thanks, yklooi.
So it means that Director's Fees have to pay PCB to LHDN? |
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Sep 14 2013, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Sep 14 2013, 03:10 PM) example. http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...it=5000&sequ=11 This post has been edited by yklooi: Sep 14 2013, 03:15 PM |
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Sep 14 2013, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 14 2013, 03:12 PM) example. http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...it=5000&sequ=11 |
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Sep 14 2013, 04:06 PM
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Sep 14 2013, 04:13 PM
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Sep 14 2013, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Sep 14 2013, 04:13 PM) what about paying a little taxes and the director got higher fees...both win-win for the director and the govt....unless you have certain reason against paying taxes. that's is all I know..... guess the govt needed taxes to run and give BR1M among others |
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Sep 14 2013, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 14 2013, 04:19 PM) what about paying a little taxes and the director got higher fees...both win-win for the director and the govt.... Taxes has to be paid of course. My point is that if I receive the Director Fees, I will have to declare it in full in my BE Form. That is on personal income tax.unless you have certain reason against paying taxes. that's is all I know..... guess the govt needed taxes to run and give BR1M among others On the company side, I would like to find out what procedures there are when it comes to my Sdn Bhd paying me the Director Fees, as in what are the procedures and % of tax to be paid, and when. |
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Sep 14 2013, 04:24 PM) Taxes has to be paid of course. My point is that if I receive the Director Fees, I will have to declare it in full in my BE Form. That is on personal income tax. On the company side, I would like to find out what procedures there are when it comes to my Sdn Bhd paying me the Director Fees, as in what are the procedures and % of tax to be paid, and when. |
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Sep 14 2013, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Sep 14 2013, 04:06 PM) Maybe I should rephrase my question: Director salary paid for each month - subjected to EPF, Socso, PCB (Tax instalment)What is the best way to classify payment to myself on a regular basis, without the company having to pay EPF, Socso, LHDN or Kastam? Director fee paid in ad-hoc basis - Not subject to EPF and Socso, Have to declare in BE form Company tax rate is at 20% (For the first RM500k chargable income), subsequently 25% flat rate. While Personal tax rate is multi tier rate, max at 26%. These figure will help u in your business tax planning |
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 14 2013, 07:04 PM) Director fee paid in ad-hoc basis - Not subject to EPF and Socso, Have to declare in BE form If pay dividend, is it taxable at personal level? Company tax rate is at 20% (For the first RM500k chargable income), subsequently 25% flat rate. While Personal tax rate is multi tier rate, max at 26%. These figure will help u in your business tax planning Or if pay ownself as consultant? |
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Sep 15 2013, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 15 2013, 06:26 PM) Even if u declare dividend, the profit at Company level still has to pay tax. Then why not declare director salary/fee to reduce it? is all about tax planning |
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Sep 15 2013, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 15 2013, 06:30 PM) Dividend would be the best option to avoid all the above, since our tax structure is tax on one source. |
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Sep 15 2013, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 15 2013, 06:32 PM) My bad So it is best to, for example, let the company revenue be taxed maximum at 20%, then declare the Profit After Tax as dividends (which is not taxable at the personal level at 25%)?Dividend would be the best option to avoid all the above, since our tax structure is tax on one source. |
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