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TSliquidz
post Sep 14 2013, 12:36 PM, updated 13y ago

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Sifu-sifu pls advise, any profit made? Regardless of lawyer, loan n maintenance fees paid.

Bought a subsale condo at RM450k 4 years ago for own stay with monthly installment of RM2000. Now sold at RM550k.


TSliquidz
post Sep 14 2013, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(661188 @ Sep 14 2013, 01:09 PM)
Guess this is a trolling thread. Prop has increased so much in the last 4 years. hard to comprehend a mere 22% appreciation for a condo.

Appreciate other members don't reply for TS, see whether he can answer  laugh.gif
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Don't guess, obviously it is.
Appreciate to share some experiances in selling, pls walk if not willing to share. Tq.
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post Sep 14 2013, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Sep 14 2013, 01:04 PM)
Me chinaman, look at cashflow only. How much money you come out when you buy ? include all cost like lawyer, etc

How much you paid to bank during 4 years ? Also expenses like quit rent, assessment, maintenance fees

How much you receive when you sell the house ? (after pay back to bank, lawyer, agent fee, RPGT etc)

Subtract all your cost against what you receive, then you know you make profit or not

Do update us after you have calculated  thumbup.gif
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This is very helpful for my calculation. Tqvm bro!

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post Sep 14 2013, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Sep 14 2013, 02:24 PM)
Acquisition price = RM450K
Disposal price = RM550K
Cash = RM45K (assume)
Loan = RM405K

Acquisition Cost :-
1. Legal fees + disbursement (SPA 450K) = RM3,700 (inc 6% GST and 30% dis))
2. Stamp Duty (MOT) = RM8,000
3. Legal fees + disbursement (Loan 405K) = RM3,700 (inc 6% GST and 30% dis)
4. Stamping fees (Loan Agreement) = RM2,025
5. Processing fees = RM150
6. Valuation fees = RM900

Disposal Cost :-
1. Legal fees + disbursement (SPA 550K) = RM1,000  (assuming you do not appoint lawyer)
2. Agent professional fees = RM11,660 (inc 6% GST)
3. RPGT = RM7,500
4. Bank total interest = RM69,355

Other hidden cost :-
1. Renovation cost = RM20,000 (for fixture items only, you can't reimburse)
2. Cash 45K FD rate = RM5,400
3. Quit rent = RM120
4. Assessment = RM6,000

** Early settlement penalty - Any??

Grand Total = RM132,010
You stays for 4 years free, assuming the rental for fully furnished is RM1,800, then you earn (or save rental of) 86,400
Profit / loss = RM (550,000 - 450,000 - 132,010 + 86,400) = RM54,390
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Really SALUTE UFO sifu! Respect!
This give me very clear picture on selling property calculation!
Super thank you very much!

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post Sep 14 2013, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Sep 14 2013, 02:49 PM)
My calculation

Cashflow out = RM45000
Acquisition cost = RM3700 + RM8000 + RM3700 + RM2025 + RM150 + RM900 = RM18475
Disposal cost = RM1000 + RM11660 + RM7500 = RM20160
Staying cost = RM20000 + RM120 + RM6000 = RM26120
Bank installment = RM2000 x 48 = RM96000

Total cashflow out = RM205755 ~ RM206000

Sales proceed = RM550000
Loan balance after 4 years (interest rate 4.3% 30 year loan) = RM376000
Net cashflow in = RM174000

Profit/Loss = RM174000 - RM206000 = -RM32000 loss

Very bad investment especially if bought just 4 years ago at the start of property boom like bro 661188 said. TS can only blame his bad luck if this is really a true case study. Sounds more like a Finance 101 exam question to me  laugh.gif
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Yes it is a bad investment unless rented out compared to own stay! Tqvm!
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post Sep 14 2013, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(bukithot @ Sep 14 2013, 04:02 PM)
Have you sold your unit? As mentioned by sifu here, COCR is negative wor. Upgrade to a new one?
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Property not always make money one..yah moving to new house soon!
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post Sep 14 2013, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Sep 14 2013, 05:14 PM)
Looks like a very small profit maybe loss.
Why never try to sell for higher price?
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Need to let go bro...don like the place!
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post Sep 14 2013, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(bukithot @ Sep 14 2013, 06:36 PM)
I see... all the best bro. But rental play doesnt work there? Mind to share your location?
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Rental rate far below installment n high density..so leting go due to new commitment. Location afraid trigger others feeling...allow me to keep it! ;-)

 

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