why not z510p with newer processor ?

i5-4200/4/1TB/W8/Touch
GT740 2GB

it will be RM200 if im not mistaken.

for warranty void part, doesn't apply if you take care of the part removal process. even the technicians also dont know that you did opened up the unit if you do it carefully.

slim Li-Ion batteries are very expensive. thats why you cant argue over that. with a laptop weigh less than 1.6kg, none of them has a battery latch for user replaceable batteries (especially ultrabooks). so normally I will suggest peoples to provide good ventilation for their laptop (heat is an enemy to Li-Ion batteries) and most importantly, dont use the battery less than 30% of the battery gauge. Li-Ion batteries are subjected to wear and tear, so to avoid costly battery replacements, it is better to take care of batteries rather than have availability to replace it.

This post has been edited by raymondtong94: Oct 6 2013, 01:26 PM

My friends asking me about my opinion for the Z500 because he looks so interested to buy it. For me the price rm2.3k is very reasonable with the spec. Same with me , he also don't want the touch screen model. But it seem that the model is too thin and can easily trap heat when using too long.

if you dont mind bigger/ bulky chasis, mind consider Dell 14 r or 15 r .

http://www.thinkdigit.com/Laptops-PCs/HP-P...view_15059.html

here is the review, similar chasis model but little different spec

This post has been edited by devour: Oct 6 2013, 02:41 PM

I already bought the dell 14r yesterday thanks too all sifu that willing to guide me

I don't know how to answer when my friends comparing my 14r with the Z500 because I'm not so good in computer. With one is better actually ? Can you give me some explanation so I can told him.

i dont know the.difference on battery for both v130 and 5460...dell quoted rm330+rm144  for replacement on v130


This post has been edited by bearbear: Oct 6 2013, 02:33 PM

Inspiron 14R, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM1849 [2.32kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), Linux, 6 cell; W8@RM2049
Z500, i5-3230M + Nvidia GT740M@RM2299[2.2kg], 4GB, 1TB, backlit, W8; 2 years warranty

Is that the 14R you bought?

If yes, then the comparison:
battery running time - 14R better by quite a bit.
CPU processing power - Z500 better a bit.
GPU - the same.
Warranty support - if you have used your budget to upgrade to 3 years for 14R, 14R better. Otherwise, Z500 has longer 2 years carry-in warranty support, but 14R has 1 year onsite warranty support.
HDD capacity - Z500 bigger.
Screen size - Z500 bigger but the image size is the same (same resolution), you don't see more thing with Z500.
Thermal profile - 14R better.

V130 battery is 6 cell 30whr, while vostro 5460 is 3 cell 51.2whr.

since V130 has EOLed, the battery price is reasonable but the service charges are not reasonable.

u ask him see this review

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo...ok.91520.0.html

he want buy laptop but lazy to study, can not like that mah

- others then the 2 models mention, ( 14r and z500) , can consider also others model within that price range


- acer v5, toshiba L50,

1. Asus,Acer,Lenovo,MSI,Dell
2. about RM3000
3. play high graphic gaming
4. bigger than 14" screen size

TQ very much...

Take good care, and the battery probably will last the 3 years before user get itchy to upgrade
Don't let the laptop get hot. High temperature kill battery fast.
Don't ever let the battery fully discharge, that kill the battery capacity. Once it left with 30 - 50% charge, try to charge it back up.
Don't worry about plugging in AC power when battery is 100% charge. New gen laptop has good battery management software that take care of it.

Buying battery directly from Dell is always more expensive

If that HP m4 is local set, brand new sealed (not display set), and ~ RM2k, in term of spec it is about right for you.
For your budget, getting an i5, with medium level GPU (~ GT740M), will be suitable for your usage.

No lah, I will tend to go with best value for the money. It really depends on budget, for certain price range, some brands tend to have better deal, so I mention it more.
Currently for HP, you may also look at this:
Pavilion 14-N059TX, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2099[2.03kg], 4GB, 750GB, W8

Price is RSP, negotiable.

Guys, I am currently looking at these two models..
Dell Inspiron 14R
HP Pavilion 14-n059TX

Both are about the same price within my budget and specs
are both almost the same but HP has a bigger HDD, other differences I am still unable to break them down..
I need some opinions.. mainly use it for multi-tasking, online surfing, watching movie and torrent.
And also hardware upgradable in the future, eg RAM and HDD to SSD. Thanks!

Taper your expectation, gaming laptops are expensive
With your budget, you probably could get models spec with GT750M, which mean for lots of new "high graphic games", you probably can only run them at medium level details.

Acer
V5-573PG-74504G50r, i5-4500U + Nvidia GT750M + (1366x768; touch)@RM2899, 4GB, 500GB, W8
V7-582PG-74508G52k, i7-4500U + Nvidia GT750M + 24GB mSATA + 500GB HDD + (1920x1080 IPS; touch)@RM3399[2.2kg], 8GB, W8

Asus
N550JV-CN077H, i7-4700HQ + Nvidia GT750M + (1920x1080; IPS matte)@RM3699[2.7kg], 4GB, 1TB, W8, backlit keyboard

Dell
Inspiron 14R, i7-4500U + Nvidia GT750M (GDDR5) @RM2499[2.32kg], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm), Ubuntu 12.04 , 6 cell; W8SL@RM2699
Inspiron 15 7000, i7-4500U + Nvidia GT750M (GDDR5) + (1920x1080; Touch)@RM3599[2.6kg], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm), W8SL, backlit keyboard, 58Whr

Lenovo
Y410p, i7-4700MQ + GT750M(GDDR5)@RM2899, 8GB, 1TB, W8, red backlit, 120w psu, swappable ODD, 2 years warranty
Y510p, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080)@RM3099[2.7kg], 8GB, 1TB, W8, red backlit, swappable ODD, 120w psu, 2 yrs

MSI
GE40-2OC, i7-4702MQ + Nvidia GTX760M + (1600x900; anti-glare)@RM3499[1.8kg], 4GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8
GE60-2OC, i5-4200M + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3099,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series KB

Prices are RSP, negotiable.

Pavilion 14-N059TX, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2099[2.03kg], 4GB, 750GB, W8

14R has quite a range of specs, I supposed you mean this:
Inspiron 14R, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM1849 [2.32kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), Linux, 6 cell; W8@RM2049

Spec wise, other than the HDD capacity, no major difference.
Other things such as keyboard, touchpad, screen, speakers, aesthetic, etc, are subjective, you have to make the call yourself

Looking at your usage, both are actually packing too much power (well, since you did not mention what "task" you multi )

Both has 2 RAM slots. If you multi-task a lot, buy more RAM (4G stick ~ RM100, 8G stick ~ RM200).
Yes, for both models, you could buy SSD to replace the HDD.

Thank you for your prompt reply. Appreciate the advice!
I should go test out both models. I personally like the look of HP. Dell looks kind of dull haha.
I do nothing major tasking, just have that thought of being sick of lagging PCs.
Since price difference is not that much, why not get a better one..

Any other brands, models I should look into that is within the same spec?

Any sifu can help recommend notebooks for :

1. any reliable brand
2. price 2k to 3k
3. everyday usage like movie, surfing, microsoft office, adobe illustrator
4. processor at least i5-3337U
5. memory 4gb at least (maybe 2gb + free 2gb)
6. storage at least 750gb
7. graphic NVIDIA GT 740M will be great
8. DVD RW optional

And also what do you think of Sony VIAO?

Thanks in advance. Would really appreciate your advice.

Do I have any other option other than HP models?

for your usage, "lagging PCs" will probably be addressed by SSD rather than more RAM.
If your budget is tight, may want to consider getting an i3, with only Intel IGPU, then throw in a 256G SSD

Anyway, models with similar spec as the HP and Dell earlier:
Acer
V5-473PG-54204G50, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M +(1366x768;touch)@RM2299, 4GB, 500GB,W8 *no OD
Toshiba
Satelite L40-AS125XG/B/W, i5-4200U + Nvidia GT740M@RM2299, 2GB, 750GB, W8