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AVFAN
post Sep 14 2013, 10:33 AM

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bursa buying has been largely epf ...

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Malaysia’s Biggest Fund Buying Stocks as Foreigners Sell

By Elffie Chew - Sep 13, 2013 5:20 PM GMT+0800.

Malaysia’s largest pension fund said it was a net buyer of the nation’s stocks during recent declines as foreign investors cut their holdings.

The Employees Provident Fund, which manages more than $170 billion of assets, bought good quality and fundamentally sound shares, Mohamad Nasir Ab. Latif, deputy chief executive officer of the fund, said in an e-mail interview yesterday. The FTSE Bursa Malaysia KLCI Index fell 6.8 percent from its July 24 record through Aug. 28 before rebounding 5 percent. The gauge slid 0.1 percent at the 5 p.m. close in Kuala Lumpur.

“Being the biggest investor in Malaysia, we view any market extremes as opportunity for us to rebalance our portfolio for continuous return and risk diversification,” Kuala Lumpur-based Mohamad Nasir said. “We believe Malaysia is in a stronger footing forward and we expect investors’ interest to come back to this region, especially the emerging countries.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-12/m...gners-sell.html

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post Sep 18 2013, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Sep 16 2013, 11:34 PM)
Ya...i think it wil be
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no rally yesterday...

today, pav n igb getting buys. sunway yet to see much.

us bond yields, mgs yields down, rm strengthened.

let's hope fed's meeting outcome tmrw morning will be favorable to reits. smile.gif


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post Sep 18 2013, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2013, 11:21 AM)
Initial plan is to hold mid term
Since price went up 9 cents within 1 mth, sell to realize $
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sell reit, take profit to buy property? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 18 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2013, 03:34 PM)
U can read my mind ya.....
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all the best! smile.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 19 2013, 09:34 AM)
Ben likes to give surprises !!! Good for REITs since bond falters smile.gif
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kinda disappointing... local reits inching up snail pace while near another 2-4% gain for sgreits.


foreign hot funds may find themselves back in emerging markets, question is how much will bursa get....?
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 19 2013, 10:13 AM)
I rather NOT want foreign hot money to come to Malaysia.... they will leave later on....
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vibrant markets will need some of that. more so if our exports aren't the most sought after like now.

if not, epf, epf... inbreeding = sterile! tongue.gif

actually, it has been like that for many years now, not expecting much to change...
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post Sep 19 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 19 2013, 03:34 PM)
sreit drop also faster, up also faster. fair enough.  biggrin.gif
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true, true - that side, gotta fast hand fast leg to buy or sell. biggrin.gif


anyway, happy to see sunreit gaining 4 sen today, nice! thumbup.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Sep 19 2013, 04:37 PM)
Can't compare to AXREIT. Up 9 cents. Looks like some big fund wants to come back into Malaysian REITs.
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ya, but tis one is like uoa, bsd, veli low volume even on hot days...

i doubt foreign funds are back yet. just epf and more epf trading, i think...
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post Sep 20 2013, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 20 2013, 05:36 PM)
Yesterday treasury yields went up back after dropping .. apparently market still think possible taper will come.

Bernake DID mention that if he decide to taper he not necessary have to announce via press conference and/or FOMC meeting..

So now market worries about ' stealth taper' hahahahaa
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i think that wud be the best way to take it.

for >a year now, ben et al's been teasing n teasing, markets react, overreact but really, there has been no change in qe at all!

i guess that's what it's all about - info, no info, misleading info, signs, strange signs - all that keeps market alive and wild, so everyone's happy speculating!!

taper will come, a matter of time, maybe even a sharp one if fed sees some big bubble somewhere.

for us mickey chickens, the only protection is to diversify, spread risks over equities-reits-fixed income-commodities-fx.

one thing i am convinced: the day the shit hits the fan worldwide, i dun wanna be holding too much rm or rupiahs. tongue.gif



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post Sep 30 2013, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 30 2013, 02:43 PM)
Axreit was d biggest loser today
Any1 know y?
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the volume is very small, probably just a couple of jittery sellers.

local and sg reits today all soft, small vol, looking for leads, i think.

us bond prices rising, yield 2.6%, likely due to us gomen "shutdown" talk.

strange thing is usd got stronger, rm get kicked again back to 3.26!

that perhaps say a dysfunctional us gomen is stronger than a "working" boland one?!! tongue.gif



anyway, watch glove n condom makers. as our goemn throws away money, no major viable productive investments, rm will weaken further. these cos. stand to reap bigger proifts - supermax, hartalega, topglove, etc.
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post Oct 10 2013, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Oct 10 2013, 08:26 AM)
Can U just give me 2 such stocks so I can take a look ? Thanks in advance.
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i have a no. of them.

best peformer had been axreit.

but at this time, i wud suggest u look at pavreit and sunreit if u hav an appetite for pot cap gains alto yields are relatively low now.

for low chance of cap gains but fair n stable yields, uoa and arreit will fit.
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post Oct 10 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Oct 10 2013, 09:45 AM)
Well it depends on how much do you think the MGS can rise in the future, historically over the last 20 years average is 4.5=5.0%, now is  3.98%. I see 5% is the max in the future, means Class 1 Retail REIT yield need to be 100-150 bps above mgs, so that works out the be 6%-6.5%. Lower class REIT will tend to require higher 200-300 bps above MGS.
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conventional 10 yr mgs is currently 3.72%, not as high as 2 months ago as us bond yields retreated.
http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?tpl=govtsecuritiesyield


but there seems to be a brewing problem -the recent bond issue, no foreign takers, all local, can assume epf doing bee-end service.
if budget 2014 does not trim deficits and keep spending only, another downgrade or warning of downgrade, foreigners continue to shun these bonds, future issues will cost more, yields keep rising.
immediate future, agree mgs won't cross 5% so quickly.
so for now, "best quality reits", >5% is expected.
check against the "safe" banks fd rate of 3.2-3.3% (drop from 3.6-3.7 a year ago), 5-6% reit yield is reasonable for me.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 10 2013, 10:33 AM
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post Oct 23 2013, 04:08 PM

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i see myreits at this time just sideways or edging a touch lower.

as few foreign funds are buying mgs or reits, the yields or prices will neither fly nor dive, just hang around, boring...

no interest to buy more myreits but adding to sgreits!

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post Oct 26 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Oct 25 2013, 06:31 PM)
Budget 2014 any benefit on reits?
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maybe prop speculators will now leave props n dump money into bursa, incl reits!
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post Dec 9 2013, 01:57 PM

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my reits not looking good. igb-sunway-pav are consistently moving lower every week.

subsidy cuts, tnb rates hike, gst (just the news) will superinflate essential goods and services prices, reduce spending power of many. while consumers will want to spend less, malls and their retailers will have to charge more. everyone get squeezed...

for a period, retail reits prices won't improve, imo...

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post Dec 11 2013, 03:32 PM

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local reits also getting hit by coming gst.

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Challenging time ahead with no all plain sailing for REITs
http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...ling-for-reits/

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post Dec 11 2013, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 11 2013, 06:49 PM)
1)Reits yield move TANDEAM MGS yield.

2)Alwasy check the NAV reits, premium reits alwasy sell above NAV.
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i am just concerned it's gonna get worse than that...

usd poised to strengthen, rm weak as ever, that's a given.

now, we might see some other shocker coming. i doubt boland reits will be spared...

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Next emerging market sell-off may be time to pounce

Others agree: "Tapering might cause a 10 percent to 15 percent down move in some emerging markets," private banking group Julius Baer said in a note.

But some are preparing to pounce on the decline. "It would be a great opportunity to buy places like Indonesia, Thailand and the Philippines on (finally) cheap prices," added Julius Baer, which has around 341 billion Swiss francs ($384 billion) under management.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101263355



perhaps stocks earning usd will hold out better in the coming "taper tsunami"..? hmm.gif
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post Dec 11 2013, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2013, 07:35 PM)
And now we compare to 1 year ago, on 'exuberance', when people are predicting REIT is sure guaranteed way to passive income, property price is infallible, price can only go up.. etc etc.

See the difference?>  wink.gif

How perception can change so fast..  whistling.gif

But no.. we are not at capitulation stage yet, but are getting there, so there might be more selldown down the line..  laugh.gif
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absolutely... worse is yet to come.


property... hehe... unless u use another nick, dun seem to see u comment in those infamous threads..!! biggrin.gif
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post Dec 11 2013, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 11 2013, 07:48 PM)
I think you did not understand on what i wrote.. please re-read again.  tongue.gif
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i think i do, but pls do elaborate if necessary. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 17 2013, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 17 2013, 01:21 PM)
Bad news for retail REIT

M'sia retail sector hit by slow sales, consumers cautious with money
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...n-spending.aspx
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this is to be expected....

tnb rates up, subsidies reduced, assessment rates up, toll rates to go up soon, gst coming... die or not?!

for both retailers and consumers, pay more in every way. where got so much cash?

and if retail biz is down, imagine what will happen to office rentals, housing, etc.... all will slow down.

bad news for all sectors... except maybe the exporters in usd.

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