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post Oct 10 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 10 2013, 10:26 PM)
Reit was riding too high previously, a correction is imminent. Reit shouldn't be getting capital appreciation like equities.

Sell down is good, at least give option to investor what to invest.

Not like previously, reit yield so low, dividend stock yield also low, equities high PER, bond yield so slow, don't know what to invest.
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the question now is, how many people dare to touch REITs now after watching its scary sell down recently? they may still keep their cash in FD exactly the same when REIT's yield too low that time.
like what u like to say, the story always repeats itself. very few people able to make profit in investment in long term. tongue.gif

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post Oct 11 2013, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Oct 10 2013, 11:16 PM)
the question now is, how many people dare to touch REITs now after watching its scary sell down recently? they may still keep their cash in FD exactly the same when REIT's yield too low that time.
like what u like to say, the story always repeats itself. very few people able to make profit in investment in long term.  tongue.gif
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thought we aim for dividend accumulation? hmm.gif
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post Oct 11 2013, 11:42 AM

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Surprisingly, after watching the Reit prices since 2 mths ago...

Seems like got people slowly accumulating. hmm.gif

I might be wrong. Any master shifu can gimme a reasonable point why there is accumulation at the moment? laugh.gif

i don't know who accumulate. But I see the buy more than sell this few weeks.
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post Oct 18 2013, 02:24 PM

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Actually, what's wrong with starhill reits, it has the highest yield yet not much of buying interest. May I know why?
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post Oct 18 2013, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Oct 11 2013, 07:42 AM)
thought we aim for dividend accumulation? hmm.gif
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YES...Like buying in small scale size to collect Propertly rental.
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post Oct 18 2013, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Oct 11 2013, 11:42 AM)
Surprisingly, after watching the Reit prices since 2 mths ago...

Seems like got people slowly accumulating. hmm.gif

I might be wrong. Any master shifu can gimme a reasonable point why there is accumulation at the moment? laugh.gif

i don't know who accumulate. But I see the buy more than sell this few weeks.
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Yes i still collecting when i have save from spare money.
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post Oct 18 2013, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Oct 18 2013, 03:16 PM)
Yes i still collecting when i have save from spare money.
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so you're one of them. laugh.gif

good good.
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post Oct 18 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Agent 592 @ Oct 18 2013, 02:24 PM)
Actually, what's wrong with starhill reits, it has the highest yield yet not much of buying interest. May I know why?
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Starhill REIT plans to raise up to RM800mil

Starhill Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT) has proposed to undergo a placement exercise to raise up to RM800mil to repay some of its borrowings and reduce its gearing level. In November last year, Starhill REIT primarily financed the acquisitions of the Sydney Harbour Marriott Hotel, Melbourne Marriott Hotel and Brisbane Marriott Hotel along with the business assets of the respective hotels via borrowings. To accommodate the placement exercise, it has also proposed to increase its existing fund size to a maximum of 2.125 billion units from the current 1.324 billion units. (Source: The Star)



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post Oct 18 2013, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Oct 18 2013, 03:22 PM)
so you're one of them.  laugh.gif

good good.
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not so frequent - maybe need wait 1-3 my bullet only can fire one reits.
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post Oct 18 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Oct 18 2013, 03:26 PM)
Starhill REIT plans to raise up to RM800mil

Starhill Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT) has proposed to undergo a placement exercise to raise up to RM800mil to repay some of its borrowings and reduce its gearing level. In November last year, Starhill REIT primarily financed the acquisitions of the Sydney Harbour Marriott Hotel, Melbourne Marriott Hotel and Brisbane Marriott Hotel along with the business assets of the respective hotels via borrowings. To accommodate the placement exercise, it has also proposed to increase its existing fund size to a maximum of 2.125 billion units from the current 1.324 billion units. (Source: The Star)
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dilution cry.gif

STAREIT is one of the worst performing counter in my portfolio...
扶不起的太子 shakehead.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 18 2013, 03:31 PM)
dilution  cry.gif

STAREIT is one of the worst performing counter in my portfolio...
扶不起的太子  shakehead.gif
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how come...i also hv long long time ago before i sold arnd 0.95 sen...now still rm1.03


only not performing. I dunnow chinese can translate.
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post Oct 18 2013, 03:39 PM

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What's the current status of Stareit share placement exercise? Anyone icon_question.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 18 2013, 03:31 PM)
dilution  cry.gif

STAREIT is one of the worst performing counter in my portfolio...
扶不起的太子  shakehead.gif
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Another victim of Stareit here. sad.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Oct 18 2013, 03:27 PM)
not so frequent - maybe need wait 1-3  my bullet only can fire one reits.
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all the best mate.

been following on your post as silent observer. smile.gif

accumulating arreit btw.
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post Oct 18 2013, 03:55 PM

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Stareit @ 1.02/1.03 now
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post Oct 18 2013, 05:31 PM

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world bond market seems coming back....US economy flat, not as encouraging as some expected, which means tapering may delay further....
after oct 25th budget, i expect malaysia bond also will come back...
if my expectation was correct, then reit may come back....valuation shouldn't be as high as before, but may see moderate recovery for those reporting improve earnings.... hmm.gif
just my wild guess, pls judge your own. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Oct 18 2013, 05:31 PM)
world bond market seems coming back....US economy flat, not as encouraging as some expected, which means tapering may delay further....
after oct 25th budget, i expect malaysia bond also will come back...
if my expectation was correct, then reit may come back....valuation shouldn't be as high as before, but may see moderate recovery for those reporting improve earnings.... hmm.gif
just my wild guess, pls judge your own.  biggrin.gif
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So the conclusion is Reits makes comeback but with not so rich valuation like previously? Correct? hmm.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 18 2013, 05:59 PM)
So the conclusion is Reits makes comeback but with not so rich valuation like previously? Correct?  hmm.gif
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Just wild guess, I also scare of REITs now. laugh.gif
Ya, I mean, previous high valuation period, net yield was compressed to 4-4.5% for REITs with best assets quality. And now, they are 5-5.5%. I bet if those REITs that able to increase income by 5-8% ahead, got a chance to stay at valuation at 5-5.5% net yield, which gives room for some capital gain. nod.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Oct 18 2013, 10:31 PM)
Just wild guess, I also scare of REITs now.  laugh.gif
Ya, I mean, previous high valuation period, net yield was compressed to 4-4.5% for REITs with best assets quality. And now, they are 5-5.5%. I bet if those REITs that able to increase income by 5-8% ahead, got a chance to stay at valuation at 5-5.5% net yield, which gives room for some capital gain.  nod.gif
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If can increased to 6% net yield & also increased income by 10%++ much more better smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 18 2013, 10:36 PM)
If can increased to 6% net yield & also increased income by 10%++ much more better  smile.gif
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that would be jewel of REIT. thumbup.gif
hektar has been above 6% net all the time, but investors worry on its assets quality (less popular malls at less popular location).
sunreit may see good earning jump in 1.5-2 yrs time after Putra Mall reopen.
igbreit and pavreit continues organic growth by re-arrangement of its rental space smartly. Garden Mall's visitors are obviously increasing in past 1+ year, rental increment is hopeful. Pavreit has low gearing, it's good for future acquisition on Pavilion extension.
Excellent Axreit management team, but I sold all between 3.30-3.75 since yield compressed below my like. Plan to re-enter at 3.10 but still can't get. It's lack of foreign holdings I guess, so not enough selling pressure. biggrin.gif


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