Source from China Press:

jialat... which condo?

Auction properties

Wow!!!... more foreigners waiting queuing up to buy boleh-land condo or boleh-land coffin?!?!?

Paiseh... I dunno which condo...

Can't understand chinese. What's the death originated from?

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2013...Coupl-dead.aspx

KUALA LUMPUR: The bodies of a Japanese couple were found in the bathroom of their apartment in Mont Kiara here.

City CID chief Senior Asst Comm Datuk Ku Chin Wah said the housekeeper found the bodies of the married couple, aged 38, at around 10am on the 13th floor apartment unit.

"We believe the husband was electrocuted while taking a shower.

"His wife heard the noise in the bathroom and came to his aid but was also electrocuted," he said when contacted on Monday.

The body of the man was in the nude while the woman was fully clothed.

It is believed the water heater unit short-circuited leading to the electrocution.

SAC Ku said the case has been classified as Sudden Death.

"The bodies have been sent to the Kuala Lumpur Hospital for post mortem," he said adding that police would be taking the statement of the housekeeper soon.

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Now that creeps me out on water heater. Wonder which brand ???

This post has been edited by gtfan: Sep 9 2013, 02:04 PM

MK Bayx

RIP to them. Quite sad really.

what brand of water heater?

If same with the refrigerator case then it was Mont Kiara Bayu 19th Floor

And this case happen at 13th Floor

RIP to all of them...

Need to banned the brand of water heater....

water heater caused both couple to die? really freak show.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2953101

staying in condo.

stacked coffins.....

Nothing much to do with the condo lar, seems like electrocuted leh.

Moral of the story: please test your water heater ELCB every now and then.

walauweh.
refrigerator case also this condo
inspector's son died in fire, also this condo
now this case also this condo kah?
FS no good lah.

water heater is alwiz the culprit ...
my friend last time also kena burnt by the super hot water because of the knob malfunction or smtg ...
He now has 2 colour of skin lol

How to test ar?

change to solar heater lah.

All these masters got "horse back cannon". Floor 13th some more.

Don't know what unit number. Kakaka.

WAHLAUEH!!!!

Condo also can install solar heater? Thought need a rooftop?
Sorry as I may have limited knowledge into this
Thanks

am promoting to them to move to landed. kekeke.

alternatively does storage heater poses the same potential hazard?
else storage heater can use this as marketing tool.

funeral cost is very expensive in japan.

Huh you don't know you can test the ELCB one ?
Just a button press on the water heater.

Perhaps it is wrong wiring rather than the heater itself........

Thanks for the tip. I din know the buttons are for testing.

I totally agree.

Else just use cold water.

Use cold water then die of cold shock pulak !

wah lan eh.. bayu again?

Hmmm... any idea what happened on that land before it was developed???

i thought whole mk was a forest/jungle prior to alan thong's "veni, vidi, vici"

so like dat, no.13 also out of the list for chinese? usually no.4 and no.14 etc.

normally main switch will trip. no?

Some other fella mentioned that the quality of wiring, electrical components and equipments used at apartments/ condos in mont kiara area is really crappy... Hmmm...

why u guys say "MK bayu again" ?

Possible.

Sue the developer if it can be proven that the wiring is sub-standard.

Nothing much to do with the condo lar, seems like electrocuted leh.

Moral of the story: please test your water heater ELCB every now and then.

--- by puchong


Some other fella mentioned that the quality of wiring, electrical components and equipments used at apartments/ condos in mont kiara area is really crappy... Hmmm... hmm.gif

--- by rooney

hmmmmmmmmm...

How to sue? Both also went heaven already.

The owner can sue? Still got ppl wan to rent his condo?

I think the owner want to quickly dispose off the unit ler... he/ she also scared he get some unwanted visits right??!?!

This post has been edited by Rooney1985: Sep 9 2013, 04:53 PM

very pitiful.
both also still so young.
worse if got kids.

I will buy the unit if it can be sold 30% below market value. Kakaka ...

WAHLAUEH!!!!

30%....i will offer 50% off the mark. Most likely you won't be able to get tenant for the next 2 to 3 years till malaysian forget and move on.

Ooops that bad ka ?

body in fridge case, gas leaked and house exploded case and now this...

Thanks for the information too.

So if something go wrong, what will happen after pressing the button??

solar heater also got heating element in the tank as a backup

that is a manual switch.
if you don't on, it won't have power supply.

Heating element won't electrocute you. What could electrocute people is the high voltage AC supply. Solar heater as far as I know has no high voltage AC supply.

where do you think the heating element is connected to? it's like a storage water heater for backup when there is not enough sunlight
please dont mix up heating elements with the solar panels.

but as kochin pointed out, just turn off before you take your shower or bath.
which also means if you live in a condo with no space for a solar heater, you can use a storage water heater. Just let it heat up, turn off, then take your shower
same thing

This post has been edited by idoblu: Sep 9 2013, 05:23 PM

U
If rain everyday still got free hot water?

Go to hot spring and take shower...

Yeah my solar heater uses the storage tank and as far as I know, does not have AC supply. Maybe other makes of solar heater has AC power supply for backup.

that's why there is a backup switch.
but touch wood, 3 straight days gloomy weather, still enough hot water to power up entire house to 3 bathrooms including basins. kekeke.

solar panels need not necessary hot weather. they just need the sun. in haze condition, apparently it works even better minus the heat.
this is what someone say. i dunno. i am just an ordinary user who's quite happy with the product so far.

btw, my uncle still uses heater powered by ......







a gas cyclinder.

You mean hot water boiled manually using kettle & gas or the kind of gas heater just like HK?
If that is gas heater, it can be dangerous too. Must be very careful when using it.

The gas leaked and explosion case was at Hijauan Kiara. Bayu got body in fridge case and fire which claimed one cop's son life.

Wow... and people pay premium to stay there?

This case confirm Bayu or not?

Six months old baby in the house . Omg

This post has been edited by skcJVN: Sep 9 2013, 05:47 PM

Not that bad bro, lot of people don't know this case especially expat, the refrigeration case at 19th floor was sold with 6xx k, the owner bought it from auction with 4xx k

On the contrary, it's actually quite well known. Few agents have told me over the years that their expat clients specifically requested against this condo. And one of my Japanese tenant oso told me that there's a online forum in Japanese that discuss all the rentals and there's a topic specifically on Bayu.

If 1, it's likely just unlucky co-incidence.
If 2, think its very very unlucky co-incidence.
If 3, many will think its more than just mere co-incidence.

So tragic. Sad. :cry:
This thing should not happen. I think they might be using the old type water heater which does not have earthing.

Condo cannot have la, not enough roof space to supply whole building

Malaysian wont stay in this condo, that is why mostly rent to foreigners, now with this Japanese case, all foreigners also do not want to rent.

First ghost condo in MK in the making

Gas heater is actually safer to use than electric one, the whole China, most of Taiwan, Japan, HK are using gas one.

More commonly use ( in those countries ) does not mean it is safer.

Not 13th floor. Actually it happen on higher floor unit. Same level with refrigerator case... From a reliable source.

I used before, it is safer, you think mass public are dumb?

If you know how much current the electric current it consumed and how little safety feature we have on our product you will agree to me.

80% of Malaysia water heater are home made, made in bolehland, those brands like Alpha, Beebull, Jxx etc. If you know how much R&D they put in safety will keep you away from those products.

I tend to agree with you. Even in US, we prefer gas boiler type.

In malaysia, better to use solar heater for those landed property. Now i hope those solar dealers don't increase the price due to increase in demand

This post has been edited by bendave9800: Sep 10 2013, 03:19 PM

Electricity heater is likely more operating cost. Cold countries they need heaters for bringing up room temperature, on top of heating up water for bath. So I think these countries use gas is purely due to econonmic reasons.

I am using a water heater which cannot control it's heat, I have to use a bucket to fill the heated water, is it dangerous to do like this? I'm still waiting owner to fix the heater. Anybody can advice me?

哈医大实习生身亡续：燃气热水器泄漏致死
家属称安装工人被拘
Using gas one also not safe , case like this always happen in HK ，Taiwan , China . Malaysia instant water heater supplier no one will take the risk .

Have to change it . Change it to built in booster pump one . I think it is water pressure too low , u can't control heating temperature if water pressure too low .

This post has been edited by skcJVN: Sep 10 2013, 04:11 PM

You mean it it not repairable? So have to change whole heater?

japanese gen. sure a lot of chinese ladies chasing for this baby since some of them willing to have sex with foreigner for so called "better generic" sperm.

boil water, traditional way safer

Does any body have better knowledge with Water Tank Storage type of Water Heater, safer right?

This post has been edited by ecin: Sep 10 2013, 04:49 PM

Yes that's safer but waste more electricity. Reason: you may end up heating up the whole tank of water before you could take bath and perhaps you only use a small fraction of the heated water in the tank. The remaining amount of water is kept in the tank and slowly dissipates away the heat.

? ? I almost want to say YA MA .

This post has been edited by skcJVN: Sep 10 2013, 05:10 PM

If the water come out from the shower is very slow or soft , yes , have to change the water heater. ( n it is a instant water heater n your house is at the top floor in a high rise apt . If terrace house u can change the piping to direct connect to the main water supply )

1. it's always strange that The Star never ever prints the names of cars or brands or project name when reporting unlike the other media

2. for the love of god, please buy some decent water heaters for your tenants and install it properly.

3. vengeful ghosts abound??

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2013...thold-baby.aspx

PETALING JAYA: The Japanese couple who was killed after being electrocuted in their apartment in Mont Kiara left behind a six-month-old baby boy.

The baby now is being taken care of by the Welfare Department.

Brickfields OCPD Asst Comm Azlee Abdullah said the baby would be over to the couple’s relatives once they arrive from Japan.

“The family members are scheduled to claim the bodies and take the baby home,” he said yesterday.

He added that police had recorded the statement of the couple’s maid.

“The maid comes to the apartment daily to clean.

Safety tips for electrical water heaters chart.

“Our investigations suggest no foul play,” he said adding that the Japanese man was a factory manager.

Meanwhile, Selangor Welfare Department director Nik Omar Nik Ab Rahman said the baby was brought to the Rumah Kanak-Kanak Tengku Budriah in Cheras following the tragedy.

“We will cooperate with the police in handing over the baby to the parents’ relatives,” he said.

Meanwhile, five of the victims’ family members arrived at the Universiti Malaya Medical Centre’s mortuary yesterday evening to identify their bodies.

The four men and a woman who arrived at 8.20pm were also accompanied by three others, one of whom is believed to be a translator.

They left 30 minutes later after identifying their loved ones.

The bodies of the Japanese couple, both 38, were discovered by the maid who arrived at the 13th floor apartment at about 10am on Monday.

The couple’s apartment is situated at a block where the dismembered body of Singaporean businessman Goh Yoke Seng was discovered in a refrigerator that had been sealed with masking tape in July 2007.

A man who had bought the unit in an auction discovered the body when he went to clean the place located on the 19th floor.

The same apartment block was also the scene of a fire in which the son of a top police officer was killed a few years ago.

The 22-year-old son of former Commercial Crime Investigation Department director Comm Koh Hong Sun died after an explosion at their 32nd floor apartment unit in July 2009.

can make movie out of these three incidents

Top 5 reason why gas heater is safer (the one I used before in oversea)
1. The heater has over heating prtection, gas leak/carbon monoxide detection, fresh air discharge(prevent gas leak trap inside), water flow ignition (no water no fire), automatic timer shutoff (auto shut off after timer expired for forgetfull people), fire resistance metal/plastic housing and faucet.
2. You will be able to immediately discover if there is a gas leak (using your nose), but you can't sense a electric leak with your sensing organ unless it is too late.
3. It is easy to add in additional off the shelf safety features such as ventilating fan and gas and carbon monoxide detector, for electric heater it is only ELCB, which we already have.
4. If electrocuted, chances of fatality is high, compare to gas explosion in bathroom, chances of survival is high.
5. The amount of gas used in the bathroom even leak all if the room is not tightly seal is not enough to kill a person, but the amount of electricity that flow into the heater, a small leak is enough to kill. Mind you, all electric heater uses 30A socket where under Malaysia safety regulation it has to be kept out of reach from user, meaning it is a dangerous socket point. (A mere 50mA of electric current reaches your heart is enough to kill)

Bonus: If really damn sui everything go wrong and god is calling, gas toxication or explosion normally only claim 1 life, electric heater can claim many more, and it is proven.

This post has been edited by KLsooner: Sep 11 2013, 10:32 AM

Hmm..Feel so sorry for the family.

In US, there was a case the jury awarded the victim USd50 million for water heater death.

I hope the japanese families sue the water heater brand and the landlord too.

bro, turn it off before using. profit.

gas heater where to buy in Malaysia?

What brand of water heater anyone knows ?

There is no much details about how the water heater could electrocute someone. Shouldn't they investigate the ACTUAL reason for it, such maybe if the wire got overheated, melted and then shorted somewhere else or water was sprayed over the water heater and so on ... ?

Try Rinnai.

isn't the landlord a victim too?

If landlords r to guarantee the safety of all appliances then tenants ll hav to pay extra for the insurance coverage liao. How in world the landlord is liable to a branded appliance?

This post has been edited by ManutdGiggs: Sep 11 2013, 11:02 AM

The landlord could be sued because it is possible that he installed sub-standard and non-safe appliances in the house.

The heater manufacturer could get away by saying it's due to users negligence such as he sprayed water over the heater itself or he had tempered the circuitry.

That's why I say further details are needed before the faulted parties can be established.

As long as it's branded ones with proper approval, the landlord's ass should be covered. Problem might be what if the heater was not even SIRIM approved or without any brand ?